Once Upon a Lilypad

The FAQs are out for the Frog Breeding Event and the prizes look very tempting! There are no drop items, no extra babies to breed or, in fact, any need to breed at all if you have the necessary froggies! So many ways to play this one, do all with breeding, do all with basic frogs, a mixture of the two.

I cannot even contemplate all the permutations of the coloured frogs but here is my two penn'orth for how to complete with just basic frogs:

2,358,000 CCs = 6173 basic frogs (Feel free to correct my maths if necessary!)
The last one is a partial frog but it would be cruel so I vote that he joins his buddies!

I will be doing a mixture of basic frogs and the minimum of breeding (to save PF for the next breeding event).

Good luck everybody.

 

6173 frogs............... I once thought of myself as a medium player.
Thank-you for showing me the errors of my ways.
I do not have 6000 of any beast. I will go back to the porch.


Good luck to all playing it may you get every stable.

 

Upon first glance this event looks like a disaster. I saw it and instantly was brought back to my “Menagerie” state of mind.
This event really isn’t that bad…

The first thing everyone needs to know is that you only need to complete the first seven steps to collect a set of givers and the Cloud Row. This takes 336,000 CC worth of frogs, which equals approximately 880 basic frogs (it could be more due to the strict donation numbers but shouldn't be more than 887 total).

I'm working on a larger estimate of what to expect and will get that posted as soon as I've got it all sorted out and added up.

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Here's the list I've prepared in order to get to the CR, I hope it helps.

Level 1 - 2500 = 1 Dart Frog, 1 Frog (5 Frogs – 1 Breed) or 7 Frogs
Level 2 – 6500 = 3 Dart Frogs (12 Frogs - 3 Breeds) or 18 Frogs
Level 3 – 12000 = 5 Dart Frogs, 2 Frogs (22 Frogs - 5 Breeds) or 32 Frogs
Level 4 – 25000 = 11 Dart Frogs (44 Frogs - 11 Breeds) or 66 Frogs
Level 5 - 70000 = 30 Dart Frogs, 3 Frogs (124 Frogs - 31 Breeds) or 184 Frogs
Level 6 – 90000 = 40 Dart Frogs (160 Frogs - 40 Breeds) or 236 Frogs
Level 7 – 130000 = 56 Dart Frogs, 3 Frogs (227 Frogs - 56 Breeds) or 341 Frogs

Without Baby Boom and accounting for zero skips it will take 594 Frogs and 147 Breeds (294 PF). Without breeding at all it will take 884 Frogs. After rewards the total cost is 874 Frogs. If you decide to breed it will take 584 Frogs or and 219 PF. Again, this is just pure numbers and does not take into account any skips or baby boom twins while breeding.

***PLEASE NOTE*** This is only to complete the first 7 steps which will give you a set of givers and the CR.

What you will earn for completing these steps:
360000 EP
1500 CC
75 PF
10 Frogs
35 Frog Feed
72 Pheromones
1 Event Sticker
1 XL Toolbox
1 Frog Pond: Yellow
1 Frog Pond: Orange
1 Frog Pond: Red
1 Ladder Factory
6 Ladder Factory: Yellow (Seems like a typo)
1 Ladder Factory: Orange
3 Three Hour Harvester Coupons
27 Stars
1 Weather Frog
1 Frog Stroke
1 Jump Puzzle
1 Cloud Row

 

Thanks, Pups. As usual, I had my blinkers on when reading - I tend to bypass the important stuff. Have now amended my original post!

 

Ok, been waiting for the step up moment to ask.
2500cc is the 1st amount, How do you get how many frogs that is? The cost of the pen?

And let's just say it now so no need for hinting at it, yes I am that dumb.

 

I think you can find the values in frogs faq under exchange values.

 

Thanks, I just don't get the CC thing oh well

 

I've updated my original post to show the numbers needed to obtain the CR and givers.

@mingling Each frog and breeded animal is assigned a "barn value" which can be found in your inventory of animals. Most, if not all, can also be found in the Game FAQ's, specifically the frogs can be found here.

While I'm at it, I think I'll expand some upon this topic as it is something that is very critical to understanding how these events work.

Here's the expanded frog exchange list:

Exchange values for coloured frogs:
Frog: 382 CC
Dart Frog: 2300 CC
Aquamarine Frog: 6500 CC
Flying Frog: 21000 CC
Zebra Frog: 67000 CC
Gentleman Frog: 210000 CC
Glass Frog: 670000 CC
Frog Prince: 2100000 CC
Rainbow Frog: 6200000 CC

The numbers which follow each frog name is the in game assigned value. A frog without any breeding is worth 382 CC's when you trade it into any in game event. A Gentleman Frog is worth 210000 CC's. This includes quests (most notably the Farming Contest quest), as well as other events such as the Harvest Hoedown.

A similar mechanic is being used for the upgrading the menagerie, only instead of animal values, it uses crop values.

 

So, ev no CC yes but not what you pay for pen CC has two meanings?. I will step out thanks for trying but this is not froggy event related I don't need anymore warnings.

 

I have nowhere near enough frogs so will breed and hope for excellent skips. Thank you all for doing the maths and good luck everyone.

 

It would probably help if I addressed your actual question. So here it is.

The first step is 2500 CC, this means that we have to donate 2500 CC's in frog values. Using the list above to find each frog value we know that a frog is worth 382 CC. So if we divide 2500 CC by 382 CC we get 6.54. Meaning it would take 6.54 frogs to complete the step. Since we cannot donate .54 frogs we must round up, so we must donate a total of 7 frogs to complete the step.

Additionally, we can also see that a Dart Frog has a barn value of 2300 CC. This means that we can combine a Dart Frog, and two Frogs to complete the step as it would be a total value of 2864 CC.

As for the assigned value of frogs and their breeded kin, they are arbitrary number conceived by the developers of the game and are not based upon the cost of the pen/stable which it requires to produce such an animal.

I hope this helps.

 

I would like to advice everyone to only breed their frogs to dart frog. When you look at it 382 cc * 4 (frogs needed for breeding) is way lower than 2300 cc. The subsequent breeds are valued lower than combined 4 frogs needed to breed. Hence it is more worth it to have dart frogs only.

Also you all might want to start piling up on your power feed. As the prices of frog feeds and its material continue to rise along with frogs, making them extremely unfeasible to directly purchase for normal players, power feed will be the best way to sail through this event. Power feed has cheaper material to produce and drastically reduce the frog production time.

 

Good explanation Decree, just a small typo: the barn value of the dart frog is 2300, so it takes 1 dart frog + 1 frog for the first task.

 

It does, I been using the wrong CC.

 

Haha I caught that while I was working on a better trade/breed strategy, which, while I was typing and doing the math, was brought up by @FarmerDelight.

The updated strategy includes a "Dart + Frog" element. This will provide to be much cheaper solution in the long term both in Frog cost and PF cost.

I'm done crunching the basic numbers for right now. I'm going to take a few moments to work on my own personal strategy, which I will post.
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Alright here's my long winded personal strategy.

TLDR = Breed minimum to complete 7 steps, complete step 8 with any extras, get my CR, and sell everything else.

What I like about this event is simple. Very low cost of PF needed to complete, and a CR which provides CC. It also provides a great chance to make some extra CC’s by selling skips and extra animals. I was fortunate enough to have bought around 800 frogs while they were around 1000 CC’s, and I’ve produced another 2000 since then. I’ll have over 3000 before the event begins.
I always try to focus on balancing two things when a breeding event comes around. I want an approach which is a balance between maintaining a high PF balance so that I can continue to participate in future breeding events, and making CC’s.

I expect, and have expected, the price for Frogs on my server will be approximately 12000 CC’s. Mice were slightly higher and Reindeer were 16000+, so I felt this was a conservative number for my market. I’m going to take the low and say that I am only going to net 9000 CC on each frog I sell. So this is the base number which is going to decide whether or not this CR is worth giving so much away instead of selling the frogs individually. This means the event is going to cost me 5256000 CC’s in just frogs alone (it’s hard to calculate a value for PF). That means the CR will take 292 days to turn a profit. That’s less than a year. So this CR is a good investment, as everything after that 292 days I’ll be gaining a long term passive profit.

I also want to take into account the fact that I have the Baby Boom rune unlocked and I will be taking advantage of the Baby Boom mini-event as well. Which means for the minimum amount of breeding I will most likely have some extras.
With any luck I’ll be able to sell the additional 2500 frogs and have zero left with the exception of a few breeds after the event has completed.

As far as the event is concerned I will be completing the first 7 steps to obtain my CR and the rewards it gives. I really like the Ladder Factories as early products tend to have an inflated value, meaning more profits early, and more stars from quests later. After that, I plan to complete step 8, as it will provide an additional recoup of 5 PF for essentially the cost of 1 skip from having bred for the first 7 steps. After that, I’m done. The cost vs. rewards isn’t very appealing to me. If for some reason I get a lot of skips, I may be tempted to donate a few more steps in order to stockpile more stars.

 

Well I will be growing frogs, breeding frogs, selling frogs, donating frogs... The frogs are going to be jumping
Did you see the stars First time in a long time I've looked for stars I'm going all the way full FOCD

 

Sold all my frogs for 13,000 CC each

I've got two fields of frog ponds out, so I can raise 176 frogs per day, I think I should be fine for the event. My goal is level 12 to get the second orange frog pond

 

Ok, I will take a big step, off to buy frog pens....

 

Yes, buy them, the first harvest of frogs will pay for the initial cost.

I'm currently getting 15000 CC per frog, selling in lots of 20, so it's going to take a while before I get all my frogs sold.

 

To put the event into perspective, we can compare it to the mouse breeding event. If we had a similar FSQ for frogs it would require:

• 25 dart frogs
• 21 aquamarine frogs
• 7 flying frogs and
• 3 zebra frogs

Total exchange value: 542,000! In this event that gets you past level 13.

The prizes for the first 13 levels include: 80 PF, 2 orange ponds and 1 red, 2 base factories, several yellow and 1 orange factory, cloud row and extra set of items. This is way better than the rewards for the mouse breeding event!