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  1. dnin21cent

    dnin21cent Forum Baron

    yes, Dienstag, I refresh to see if english forum got FAQ
    yeah,finally on line. But what it is..
    If I do not see this thread. I will got o_O>:(
    I don't know what it say, then I saw the second post from Mod.
    Oh, it still need translate xDxD
     
  2. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    I am sure you will :) And congratulations :D Getting all the land on bahamarama is so great :inlove:
     
  3. Arrouquelas

    Arrouquelas Forum Inhabitant

    I think I found a way to make this less harder for those who don't login so often.
    But it's an expensive one...

    First remember this is all about EP, not number of seeds yield.
    Second the 8-hour crop is called Glitter poppy
    So that means that 1x1 glitter poppy planted gives 12 EP.
    But 2x2 glitter poppy planted gives 48 EP. Because it's 4*12 EP.
    This can be very important for those who don't have the harvester available and have to do it manually.
    Whether you decide to use one space with a 1x1 plot or four spaces at once with a 2x2 plot, it's the 1x1 that counts as a single space for the purposes of the explanation below.

    This can be done in 4 harvests of 8-hour crop. How?

    60K /12 = 5000 1x1 spaces harvested. It doesn't matter if those spaces can also be filled with 2x2 plots. A 2x2 plot is 4 full spaces.

    5000 spaces / 4 harvests = 1250 spaces. It's too much. We only have at most 776 spaces for each harvest (202 main field, 202 green meadow, 184 magical glade and 188 bahamarama)

    But we're not counting the EP buffs.

    I'm going to assume no pets of any kind. We'll need 120% EP buffs total. Mathematically it's multiplying 2.2 to the initial 12 EP glitter poppy gives. That is 2.2*12 = 26.4 EP. that's much better.

    Now restart the calculations:

    60K / 26.4 = 2272.7272... 2273 spaces harvested just to be safe.

    2273 spaces / 4 harvests = 568.25 = 569 spaces per harvest. Strangely enough you don't have to use bahamarama in any way. All you need is green meadow and magical glade fully open. You can leave 19 spaces for your trees, for example.

    The 120% EP buffs:
    Rune 10%
    1 Zucchini-apple bread 60% (gold slot)
    2 Easter marmalade or Spring wreath : 30% (gold slot)
    5 Carrot bread: 20% (silver slot)
    1 Pinkie pie pie: To extend the time of your buffs. (hence the 5 carrot bread and not 6).
    This is 120% EP buff total.
    If you have owl pets, just remember you can subtract all your owl pets (each one gives 10%) and look which one of the needed crafting products you may not use it, thus saving a bit of CC's.
    However, don't forget that crow and dragon pets are not readily available during all 24-hour period. They'll be useful, no doubt about that. But not for all harvests. So, I wouldn't risk it counting in your calculations if you're not sure enough on how they can help.


    About the four harvests:
    Plant the 569 seeds of glitter poppy. If you're using 2x2 plots, you'll be using less seeds but make sure you have enough seeds. Otherwise, don't start the timer and wait for another round.
    Let it mature until they're ready to be harvested.
    Start the timer
    1st harvest: Immediately after you start the timer. Replant again and sprinkle with water.
    2nd harvest: About 6h30 hours later. Replant again with water.
    3rd harvest: About 13 hours later. Replant again with water.
    4th harvest: about 19h30 later.
    That leaves with 4h30 hours to spare. One or two of the three latest harvests, you may not use water. Perhaps the best one to save water would be the overnight planting.
    Anyway, if you made a mistake (like planting the 4 hour crop instead of glitter poppy), you may still use it at your advantage planting another round of 4 hour. That will yield even more EP because two harvests of the 4-hour crop is better than one harvest of glitter poppy.
    But again, this is just for those who don't login often. So, make sure you had your morning coffee, you're planting the right crop AND you have all buffs available in the buff's slots before you harvest.

    Hope this helps somehow.

    Good luck to all !!!!
     
  4. steph2014

    steph2014 Forum Pro

    My little farm (MissSmartyPants) has a ZAB thanks to a kind friend, but I haven't reached the Green Thumb rune on the tree, and CC to buy artisan items is limited. But I was thinking...what if my first harvest was the 4 hour crops on comfort fields, using SG to reduce time? Especially if sprayed with Suzy's? Wouldn't that give more EP than starting off with the 8 hour crop? I'm horrible at math, but I know that comfort fields give 3x the EP.
     
  5. Arrouquelas

    Arrouquelas Forum Inhabitant

    I didn't remember about comfort fields! That is one hell of an advantage! If it really gives 3xEP than it's just like three harvests of eight-hour crop altogether in only one (or close to that because comfort fields only work with 2x2 plots and you still have to fill with 1x1 plots the remaining space). Unless I'm missing something here.
    If indeed is like three harvests of EP at once (or possibly more with Suzy's) I'd use it steph if I were you. If you're ready to use SG and Suzy's then I suggest you having all seeds possible of the eight-hour crop instead of the four-hour crop and be ready to harvest before you start the clock.
    In other words, that really might work, especially with all possible buffs helping. And maybe (but not sure) you don't have to use any duplicates of any crafting product.
     
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  6. steph2014

    steph2014 Forum Pro

    They do indeed give 3x EP, Arq! The 4 hour crops give 32 EP on regular 2x2 plots, so they give 96 EP on comfort fields. They also give 3x the seeds (15 instead of 5), and also if you use Suzy's on them it increases EP even more, and adds +4 to each comfort field (it only adds +2 on regular fields). The only downside is that the comfort fields require 4x growing time. So the 4 hour crop takes 16 hours to grow. But by using White Innocence, SG, and water, that grow time is greatly reduced. 8 hour crops could be planted on the 1x1 plots that are along the sides. They'd all be ready to harvest around the same time. I think, for me, the 4 hour crop on comfort fields with SG is the best choice as an overnight crop in that crucial first 24 hours.

    Edit: I just found out they do NOT give 3x EP. They give 2x EP. Not as good, but might still be my best option.
     
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  7. Rags4

    Rags4 Forum Apprentice

    Does anyone know when the buffs should be applied? Some, such as ZAB, say they give extra EP for sowing seeds, while others, such as SRJ, don't say if they give the extra EP for sowing or harvesting. This information is important for those with a limited number of buff items.
     
  8. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    SGed Comfort Fields are a very good tactical move to apply for the very first harvest of the 8hs crop, as much buffed as possible, immediately after having hit the start button; the 2 (see Mir's post below)x EPs would make first harvest yield skyrocket. Probably this is the best possible one, and even the least costly and hard if you happen to have loads of SG at hand already.

    I'll most likely use this move in my 2 lower level farms, where I still have oodles of SG. But I won't in my main -this one- because I got too low on SG after Jack's Back intro MM past edition -down to 260-. However, in this farm I have all buffs available -plus the 6 owls, the nightmare thing, the crows- so I don't think it'll be a problem. In fact, because of the latter, I'll most probably not use 700+ 1x1 plots but something in the region of 600.

    Rags,

    Both ZAB/EM/SprWr/SRJ/CB must be activated at harvest time, just like CAC.
     
  9. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Good idea with the comfort fields :) But unfortunately they only give 2xEP :cry: FAQ here
     
  10. steph2014

    steph2014 Forum Pro

    Oh no! I thought they gave 3x. Well that certainly changes things. :( Hmm. It might still be my best choice on MissSmartyPants, what do you think, Mir? Your math is a million times better than mine!!xD
     
  11. Rags4

    Rags4 Forum Apprentice

    Don't comfort fields require more seeds for sowing also? I got burned with that on the last event. Each 2x2 plot took three seeds.
     
  12. steph2014

    steph2014 Forum Pro

    Yes, each plot requires 3 seeds and gives 15 (regular 2x2s require 1 seed and give 5). So the ratio is the same. The EP doubles, though, and effectiveness of Suzy's is increased.
     
  13. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    steph, if you can spare the SG, then probably yes :)

    Not quite sure how suzy's effect comfort fields EP though. Is it plus 50% of 32EP or plus 50% of 64EP? Does anyone know?

    Rags, yes, that is important to keep in mind, thanks for reminding us :D

    Edit: But maybe consider 8h crops on comfort fields, as 2*32=64 isn't so much more that 48. (I am just asking you to consider it, not recommending anything, haven't really thought it through.)
     
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  14. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    Suzy's spray doesn't affect EPs (wrong statement: see Mir's correction about this below) but its effect in terms of seeds yield doubles in CFs: it adds 4 seeds per plot instead of 2. Hence, yield from a 2x2 CF would be 15+4 = 19; if you subtract the 3 needed for planting, the net is, then, 16 per CF. There is no difference on CAC/PJ/PC effect, though: they will add 2 or 1 seeds as increased yield at harvest as for any other plot.
     
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  15. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Aluntino, it also increases EP by 50% on 2x2, here is the FAQ :)

    Edit: At least on normal fields, as I said don't know how it works with comfort fields :(

    Second edit: Was that what you were answering? Saying Suzy's don't increase EP on comfort fields?
     
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  16. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    My comment was simply wrong regarding the EPs (I'll edit my previous post right away, in red): you're right, Mir. The specific effect Suzy's spray has on CFs that I know of, unique to them, is that it doubles its produce increase from 2 to 4, meaning 4 more seeds instead of 2 for any other plot. EP effect must hence be the same as for any other thing: 50% more EPs.

    But we must remember all these increased EPs effects are calculated over the base value.

    So, let's say you use a CF:

    * 100% more EPs because it's a CF;
    * 50% more EPs if Suzy-sprayed;
    250% EPs so far (100% from base + 150%)
    * 60% more EPs from a ZAB;
    * 30% more EPs from either an EM or a SprWr;
    * 20% more EPs from a CB
    * 10% more EPs from the Green Thumbs rune
    370% EPs so far (100% from base + 150% + 120%)
    * 10% from each owl activated at harvest --> if 6, 60% more
    430% EPs so far (100% from base + 150% + 120% + 60%)
    * 20% from the nightmare thing
    * 5% from each crow pet; let's say 2 of them: 10%
    460% EPs so far (100% from base + 150% + 120% + 60% + 30%)

    Under any circumstances, then, someone with enough SG should seriously analyze this option for the very first 8 hs crop harvest right after having hit the start button.

     
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  17. dnin21cent

    dnin21cent Forum Baron

    WOW..
    I only get 1 dragon pet, +20%
    under Aluntino calculate, I could get 390% EP if I use CF
    really temp...If I'm lucky, I may get some EP boost from Daily Login:p

    So,For LV 70 upward players. If you want to do LV 1, Remember, do not get yr daily login
    bonus , check it after yr click the timer. you may get some unexpected EP;)
     
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  18. jennifersiegel

    jennifersiegel Padavan

    Anyway if you do not complete the first task, you will still be able to go on with the event (the next task). It will just give partially rewards for this level according to the amount of EP collected.
     
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  19. SuzeeRabbit

    SuzeeRabbit Old Hand

    I'm still having trouble with the battery on my laptop making it difficult for me to get things done. That coupled with RL and back-to-back-to-back... events... I'm exhausted.

    I have most of 4 fields cleared from last event or two, can't remember. It looks like I can get the 8h crop in 7+ harvests and the 4h crop in 5 harvests. Not worried about those. Event drops we need 950 /6= 159 average per day. That's a high number but I average almost 200 per day. Not worried if they don't change the algorithm. But...

    I was planning on going AFK tomorrow but postponed because of the event. I want to go Fri and do the timed challenge of this event on Sat but got to thinking... Little mention of it in this thread... Cryptic info in the poorly translated FAQ... I'm concerned about the production pens. My understanding is... We're only allowed to build 3 prod pens. We need to use them to make 32 items. That's 11 per pen. Reading between the lines it looks like it takes 5h for each one, 55h. Maybe 44h w/ water. Because of my time zone and need for sleep I miss out on the last 12-8h of an event, as well as the first 3h. So it looks like one needs to plan on using 3 days to make the windmill stuff. Or use PF. Can someone reading the foreign language forums clarify this info? Also how much mole food do we need for this part of the event?
     
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  20. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    You got it right Suzee :) We can build maximum 3. They eat 1 mole feed, so we need 32 mole feed in total.

    Basic running time is 5h, but it is affected by the stall rune, so with water it only takes 3:36, you can get it down to 3:14 with valentines pot. Adding a 5% reduction buff (don't remember the names) cuts the time further down to 3:04. If you can harvest often you may be able to do it in two days (harvest 5 times a day, leaving them out one night). Otherwise it might be safer to plan for 3 days. Good luck :)
     
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