I'm broke, again! How do I make ccs?

Here is a Hint to Make cc Make Spring Wreaths and Easter Marmalade and ZAB and Sell them for Good Quick Profit, check the markets they have gone up in price

 

With all the now normal confusion surrounding the game in general, there is even more confusion in the market due to the lack of FAQs being presented in a timely manner in the English forum regarding the Comic Event. I will now routinely take this confusion into my cc making equation.

Well, I'm going to make what I can during the confusion ... I only wish I could buy it and sell it.

@solotime Not to ignore you, but I'll handle your Banana sale suggestion to give you something to take back to your Headquarters. There is a lot to be mastered and your suggestion will assist greatly. In a nutshell ..... no way to bothering with bananas any other way than as with lettuce at this time. This is a mediocre buy time for bananas, not sell time! Much more to come.

First I need to dump all this mole feed and a few moles to move the market index up.

Mooboy, I really really want to entertain your idea. When I finish with the mole money and after displaying as much as I can with Bananas then:

I want us to try and reason with one another as we have so often done. In advance, I am going to try and say your are incorrect with your recommendation. At this time I am not certain what my analysis will show. Please do me a favor and after presented show me I am wrong in something I have done. I wish to learn something. At this time I cannot say you are incorrect but I will say that I will admit openly the favorableness or discredit it in my analysis ... and with support for my position ... win or loose

If my analysis supports your recommendation or not, I do feel there is an awful lot we are both able to present regarding craft products in general, specifically those you mention, and the making of ccs using craft products. I unconditionally respect your advice ... you know how we are ... and I'm going to try you! ... and you know it.

@solotime I'll use an elementary analysis to decide about banana sales here. I doubt the sales price you quote but I can use it here as a start. So bananas "... bring in like 70 to 80 CC." To have a banana to sell I must produce it or buy to resell. I'll work with 75 as a price for discussion purposes. So if I buy at 75 I must resell at 75 / .90 = 83.33 before I will make anything. At 83.33 I make nothing.

Can I resell for at least 83.33 just to get my money back? ummmm maybe on your market but I need to go further...hard sale
What are bananas used for? Monkey feed and a few quests and ignore everything else.
How many for money feed? 3
cost to produce money feed is 3 x 75 (make easy and use the buy price) = 225
price to sell monkey feed in order to make zero is 225 / .90 = 250 <--- no profit and nothing for milling time (WOW!)
Any feeling bananas will be called for in the next 2 weeks? none whatsoever
Any real need for monkeys production needing Banana feed? unlikely at this time

Given that bananas peaked in price as monkeys were called for in breeding, the market is now on the down cycle.
Decision: Too risky and return is highly unlikely at this time. I give you the benefit of the doubt by saying 70 - 80 is a bubble at most.

More accurate and methodical regarding producing to resell

Ten Common Baha Tree Fruit. (Much more information readily available)

Tree Fruit	My Market Price	1 Rank by Price	Baha EP	2 Rank by EP	Price Rank + EP Rank	3 Overall Rank	Exchange
Bananas	49	#6	40	#10	16	9	60
Mandarin	39	#10	47	#8	18	10	105
Mangoes	100	#2	50	#7	9	3 or 4 or 5	120
Coconuts	105	#1	45	#9	10	6	90
Fig	65	#3	52	#6	9	3 or 4 or 5	130
Kiwi	61	#4	54	#5	9	3 or 4 or 5	140
Dragon Fruit	43	#8	55	#4	12	7 or 8	150
Guavas	41	#9	60	#3	12	7 or 8	180
Cocoa Beans	54	#5	65	#2	7	1	200
Avocado	44	#7	70	#1	8	2	220

Considering sales price alone, Bananas rank #6 with Coconut ranked #1
Considering EP alone, Bananas rank #10 with Avocado ranked #1
Considering Overall Price Rank and EP Rank together, Bananas rank #9 with Cocoa Beans #1

With a simple presentation and little thought: ... Producing Bananas to resell is middle of the road in terms of price and is the absolute worse use of space in terms of EP for all Baha tree fruit.

I maximize ccs with this farm first and therefore would choose production and selling of Coconuts followed by Mangoes followed by Fig.

Secondarily ep is the only concern and Banana is absolute last.

When considering both together, Cocoa Beans is solid.

No need to even consider exchange value with the Banana recommendation but no doubt it is the last I would buy or produce with that purpose in mind.

Conclusion: Flawed recommendation with no defense.

(Not to worry Mooboy, I do look forward to loosing to you. I'm still going to try you, win or loose.)

----edit-----

Sure is quiet here! I know some people are making those ccs.

Notice how developers have designed the event in order to make an adjust in prices of the crafts. There is still more to come. At the same time, several cop prices are being adjusted.

Also notice how the design of the event has increased certain products. Developers are needed. Without them and the events there is little demand.

Previously I mentioned Pink Jelly prices. Still edging up and is slowing but is not even half to where it is going. I knew there was disbelief and I dare not have mentioned White Innocence until now. This is the absolute highest risk for an investment.

Maybe we'll see everyone when the event is over or nearing end.

Good luck!

 

Would it be a bad idea to buy like 50,000 Wheat and Carrots?
They're priced from 5.50 to 6.20 in the range I would buy out.

@Broke, Bananas sell at 70-80 CC on my market.

 

@solotime
I play wheat and carrots always just like lettuce. I wish I could see your market to give an accurate answer. My only question is at what price do you feel you can sell them?

Sounds like someone is selling trying to attract someone who is selling to those milling feed, specifically chicken feed.

As long as you can make something, any amount of ccs just sitting there will make something for you as you know.

I would not buy either on this market but this is probably due to our market differences. From past, I know you will be working with small margin at times. (50,000 x 6 is 300,000 ..... well your call if you can sell them.)

Quick:

High buy of 6.20 / .9 = 6.89 Must sell at 6.89 to make -0- . -0-
Beyond that price and you make. If you can make it at buying for 6.20 then surely you can make it if purchasing at 5.50.

RE Bananas: Plug in your market prices and try the same analysis presented. Even at 90 bananas would not be my choice if only focusing on ccs. Bananas are at approx. 52 here. I would still leave them alone. You would know better than I based on your market. OK, I believe Bananas are selling as you suggest on your market. (Try plugging in the numbers and see where Bananas fall -- or simply check Mangoes and Coconuts before you try it -- may not even need to do anything.)

Question: What is monkey feed selling for?

I'm watching carrots and wheat too as I am selling them.

May want to keep an eye out on base goats. The breeding animal, speckled goats hit the exchange rate of 920 today and Black Goats nearly disappeared! Gathered over 10k cheap feed and gathering any cheap lettuce and sunflowers. Just a thought.

 

@Broke, Yeah your post makes sense.
I was just thinking they might reach like 10 CC but that's just rare.
My whole island is set up for Bananas, was like that ever since the island came out


So, got some very bad news
Last night my market was loaded with breeding animals.
Golden Donkeys were at only 7 million. I didn't buy anything because
I heard people keep winning them. I feared a price drop.

November 10th, posted on the German forum.
A new permanent quest comes out and needs nearly all
products.

Truffles << Need 144
Piggy Bank Pig << Need one

Cow Milk << Need 360
Milkshake Cow << Need one

Ridding Lessons << Need 290
Picasso Horse << Need one

Koi << Need 290
Sparkle Fish << Need one

Honey << Need 435
Beautiful Bee << Need one


Ostrich Egg << Need 435
Skating Ostrich << Need one

Cooking pots << Need 500
Golden Donkey << Need one

EP payout are VERY good

 

neither of you are thinking outside the box, carrots & wheat are both needed for carrot bread

 

@Jools

The low level crops make a steady return if bought wisely I find. I just play them and buy them and when my inventories of each get as low as a million then I get a little more aggressive with purchasing. Absolute ccs? Very few and so many to turn to get anywhere it seems. But the return is many times fantastic. Losses are small too when they occur. I play all 5 of the lowest level crops continuously.

Once learned to play and with a decent inventory, there is no box to even think about. You are able to meet demands for those who only want to deal with carrot bread or any craft product, or animal feed, or quests. There is no thought involved once done. It is just buying and selling.

I thought I noticed you had a large stock of ccs from your farm picture. Congrats! We are a little different here. I try to keep as few on hand as possible and keep mine turning...like with carrots or wheat or lettuce or anything I can make a cc with. Knowing what they are used for is basic to playing this game's market. Turning from 3 - 12 million ccs a day can lead one in a lot of directions where one must answer to oneself.

I grew a few Bananas when I judged appropriate. Recently I opted to complete an inventory of 10,000 anaconda and now producing parrots but only for the poop and can care less about the parrot. Bananas are too far down on the list to grow now but I do hold enough to make it though a small call just to be safe rather than sorry. If I see them cheap then I will buy them too

Thanks for the information regarding the new quest. I am turning all products listed but cooking pots in lots of 100 - 150 regularly. Trying to explain the mechanics of lettuce was to enable the inexperienced market player to learn a few basics cheaply and then using the same logic be able to apply what was learned to products which can be 1000 times more expensive. And not only are the products you mention needed, but there is/will be an intentional further adjustment in price of certain craft products needed to earn additional ep as well as shorten the growth time as well as extend the buff life as well as generate revenue for the Company.

I like your thought process too. And again, if I were in your position with regard to a wheat and carrot purchase I would not hesitate to spend 300,000 cc BUT ..... BUT before I do I have to have reasonable assurance I can sell them and at a profit..... OR if I am still unsure but nothing else to do with 300,000 ccs then I must be willing to take a small loss to get rid of them, get my ccs back, and make a wiser investment.

I am playing a few breeding animals but not those specifically called for in the quest which may surface. But I'll play a few of those you mention but right now I will do it just like playing lettuce, only 4 - 20 of each rather than 400,000 of each to make the same thing.

Sincerely, thanks again.

@Jools
There are far more uses for both carrots and wheat than the three of us collectively have mentioned thus far. Carrot bread is a currently demanded craft item and it is being played, conservatively, right along with its ingredients and there is absolutely no thought involved in the making of ccs with any of them...it is a given.

We were discussing an offer and we listened to each other. If I am not thinking outside the box then please bring something here that will assist me and everyone else here in making ccs while leaving the wild generalizations with yourself.

There was a call for cows a few weeks ago and the call affected the price of cow feed. Wheat is a component of cow feed and the latent effect on cows which affected cow feed which affect wheat is still currently surfacing in prices.

Furthermore there is the current effect of the production and use of carrot bread on carrot prices. This coupled with the call for rabbits a few weeks ago, which affected rabbit feed prices, which also affected carrot prices is part of the combined effect of both calls on the current price of carrots.

Additionally, all recent calls for carrots, which have been indirect in nature certainly have an effect on the level of production of carrots on farms regardless of whether either of us chooses to produce them or not. The level of carrot production will change between levels now versus levels after the current event.

The level of production will be different for those at different levels.

Just as there are perceptions, there are misperceptions. With relative certainty, you have greatly misperceived that either myself or solotime is not thinking outside the box. There are many knowledgeable readers of this thread here, we are kind and we are hard on one another. Please join us and assist us or let us know how any of us may assist you with cc making efforts.

I do look forward to working with you.

 

As I said, you need to think outside the box. If you can't understand what I mean then that's hardly my problem is it. You stick to your 10-20% profit and I'll carry on with my 1000%

 

Ι searched the Greek forum and I found that this permanent quest will have Bahamarama EP for rewards

 

@Arielh
You and solotime are so kind to provide us with this information.

I can see from the price behavior of the items which might be called for that this information is freely flowing, and has been for some time, in some places. Bahama EP will probably be sought after. My first thought is that the ep will be mighty expensive as well as the stars obtained. Outright buying the Baha ep with ccs may be cheaper but would not satisfy the quest.

I will sell all I have of everything supposedly required and immediately reinvest the proceeds as usual.

For the first time in a long long long time I admit I do not have the inventory of finished products to meet the needs of those who shop with me. I will be forced to play them like lettuce. The effects of such a quest, if indeed it occurs, is far reaching and has been carefully thought out by developers. There is not a single market area which will not be affected.

Thank you again!

 

You are welcome farmer_broke. And I want to thank you about what you explained about the pink jelly...

I want to reveal that in the last step there are as rewards a pink cookware forge and a pink donkey stable

 

The following is a part of a response being sent as an igm to one of our wonderful participants here. I will leave it to that individual to disclose their identity.

Black Goats disappeared from my market. So if Black goats disappear then some are betting on a price increase. Fine. In order to meet demand for additional Black Goats then Speckled goats may/will be used. So if demand for Speckled Goats increases and supplies decrease then this action cases a rise in prices of Speckled Goats if barn supplies begin to fall and a continued rise in prices of Black Goats given that demand continues to increase. Speckled goats have already increased in price by nearly 20% here in the last month. (Already in the profit region for me.)

How high will Speckled Goats go if one buys into this? I hate to say this but await and welcome the dispute: At least beyond the present market index of 920 and 920 is the exchange price. Once the price exceeds 920 the index will begin to fluxuate and not until. There are presently 128 breeding animals and of the 128, all but 4 have surpassed their exchange rate and their related market index is fluctuating.

Why in this universe would one believe one would set a market index and NOT plan to have it fluctuate? When it will fluctuate or how it will be done is left to the game developers who have constant interaction with the BP Marketing Division.

The one closest to moving and now fighting market resistance due to the number of offers at its exchange is the Haflinger horse. The demand for the Piccasso will is also stimulated and breeders will have a new market for the top animal. We can see one of the roles played by developers here. Power feed cannot be milled fast enough and power feed sales will increase in order to meet the demands of breeders old and new.

New breeders will enter attempting to get rich or complete the quest and buy power feed and of course the new breeders have little knowldge of the breeding market with its various animals, prices and trends and thus will continue to give away their ccs. They have not paid their dues to learn and many will not. And I will be waiting with mouse in hand ready to click .

I can see several arguments against what I previously suggested regarding Pink Jelly. And to continue while using breeding: With breeding being stimulated, power feed sales will increase and using will begin to occur more frequently outside of Baby Boom.

And this brings me to Pink Jelly. Pink Jelly reduces breeding time as we know. If the quest indeed materializes, breeding will be stimulated, new breeder enter with the old and use of Pink Jelly increases which reduces supplies. As proved, this craft product cannot be produced at current ingredient and finished product rates, profitably. No question! And not for a while!

To provide further proof: When Pink Jelly was cited as a potential investment, the market price was slightly above 450 on this market. Now several weeks later, the market price for Pink Jelly on this market is slightly under 1850. There is still time to invest. The investment is becoming more expensive to make though.

Because I have received so tough a time with Pink Jelly and I want even more resistance: I will cite White Innocence as a good underpriced investment. Produce it at a real loss if you wish but no need and I do not recommend this at this time. I recommend just picking up a few and forgetting about them because the wheels are slowly beginning to turn ..... but they are definitely turning.

A broke cc making alert:

If one understands the mechanics of turning lettuce then at this time one may actively turn the products which may be called for. Make certain to use the .90 computation.

@Arielh

I'm not playing with that cookware at all. Too pricey for me and I'm almost broke. There will be a toolbox sale and supplies will be increased.

ummmmmmm I would imagine it will occur before one has a chance to spend RL funds on holiday shopping.
I'm gonna see about getting that plastic from my farmwife tlcmom!

---edit---

Now flat broke again with exactly -0- ccs. I think I need some help. I'm afraid to ask what my friends will think anymore.

 

I wouldn't waste my time for anything less than 50% profit and certainly not on lettuce, carrots or wheat.
for products I look for a 200% minimum

 

How is it wasting time when you have over 100 million country coins?
What happen when you invest in tons of things? doesn't the small percentage add up?

Right now I'm buying breeding animals to make like 20k to 40k CC back on each one.
Just think, 10 = 400,000 or 200,000. Depends on how much they go up next twin breeding.

If you don't have more country coins, how can you be so sure whats the best idea?

Remember, I might of started in 2010 but I took like a one year breaking meaning I really
only been playing for 3 years. I make around 160k CC a day when I sell.

Not looking for a fight, just wondering.

 

It depends on how much time you want to spend in the market. I don't really like spending time in the market, it's not why I play farmerama. For my playing style now, it is necessary to spend some time there, but I want it to be spent on trading with chance of more than a few percent profit.

BTW, I am not at all claiming to be good at earning money in the market, quite the contrary. I often find myself making serious misjudgements. But I also don't want to spend a lot of time trying to be really good. I want to find a few ways to reliably make enough cc to cover my needs. And playing with lettuce all day is certainly not appealing, not even if it would eventually get me to 100 million cc.

Edit: What I find a lot more appealing than buying and reselling, is figuring out what to grow/make on my farm that can be sold with profit, and what I should buy.

 

As -Mir85- said, probably because this is a farming game - not a market trading game. I keep my CCs around 5M +/- a couple of million, I don't see any reason to need more than that.
My goal is to complete the FSQs without the need to buy the requirements, as that seems a pointless exercise to me

 

I can give the best reason of all. The more CC you have, the more people wish they had that many.

That's true about the game where you stated its a farming game.
But people don't always just farm. The CC amount I got is nothing
compared to those in the billions. No idea if they're real people or just admins.
So getting that high is pointless but it's for the hall-of-frame.
Who wouldn't want to be famous on the game for something?

 

My purpose in initiating this thread was to continue and assist others with gathering the basics in order to develop a plan for themselves in order to make ccs efficiently. Again, there is no correct way to play the market in this game. However, some ways are more efficient than others. AND without ccs in order to begin playing the market some simply do not have a choice!

There is a beginning point and those who purposely make ccs know something about aspects of pricing, quantity and the commission which is paid in order to sell. Each of us began somewhere. And so must the new player or novice market player and they will be assisted provided the assistance is welcomed.

One may not wish to waste their time growing or playing lettuce or wheat, but if you do not learn the basic mechanics which may be learned from working the cheapest of items, then THE PRICE ONE PAYS TO LEARN WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE. If one wants to pay, then pay.

If one wishes to only search for a 8% or 100% or 200% or 1000% return then do so. Some visiting us do not understand percentages or rate of return or exchange value or their various uses. This is a thread to assist others! If one wishes to disclose what some of us clearly see as a 1000% or 2000% or 5% return then: Take the risk of having your idea demolished or appreciated.

As we play the market here, we reach different levels also. Sure I reached a level of only playing items which return 200% and then 1000% only to realize that there is still another level beyond that. And if this point is where one wishes to stop then so be it. I am certain this thread is read by some who have can assist you. And they realize one has a choice in order to progress or not and there is no correct way to play the market. No one will fight with you in order to make certain you expand your mind and reach your potential. There is no correct way to play this game and you will merely be left at your present state with best wishes.

Note: One may grow or produce any or all the items needed to complete any quest. Just don't be fooled into thinking you don't pay when doing it. You pay and you pay dearly! Me too, but I realize it, can made a determination as to how much. Knowing this enables one to complete the quest in order of cost rather than in order of simple go or produce and item. Each to their own.

Before providing a supportable plan to make ccs I want to again thank Solotime for publishing here the findings of the new quest. I have made several million ccs very easily thanks to you and the lesson mastered by and while learning to play the lower level crops dynamically. I have no regrets. Here's the COMPLETE strategy:

View the products called for with the new quest. If you have ccs then buy 100 or slightly above. Clear as many pages as you dare. Make certain that you understand the point where you will make nothing (the .90 computation) for the highest item you decide to purchase at. Find the price you will sell the items. Then merely list the lot.

When buying to immediately resell I have made as high as 100% (or 3000 ccs) when selling the first item. As I kept purchasing I pay more and know I will receive less. I have even gotten to the point where I will buy items and purposely loose on a few just to be able to get the lot size that is attractive and at the same time remove those from the market and raise the price.

The wildest sale and most profitable using the above and I regarded as the most risky at that time was selling 128 koi at nearly 9000 ccs each.

I stay clear of milk, honey, and cookware as a personal preference. There are ccs to be made there; just careful of the price you pay.

Solotime, real life will not allow me to play for a few days but a gift is planned for you .... Just say it is an unexpected return on your risk of disclosure! I know you shared with no expectations. Thank you.

 

I was afraid to buy any products cause when I checked they were at the 4k and 5k mark.
Now Koi's and Ostrich eggs hit 12k but dropped fast to 9k.

Don't see why those people can't just wait? I would never pay that much for a single product.
I'll be selling them once I complete the event with the drops needed.

I watched a lot of people loose money with breeding animals.
They buying Golden Donkeys for 10 million to re-sell at 13 million.

*Added*
Can't help myself... I keep buying snowies when they go under 180k credits.
Already got 20 of them.

 

@solotime

I see some cannot wait to work on the quest regardless of the cost of items and millions in profit were made. And you have me keeping an eye on snowy prices and I have no reason other than you! And I picked up a few too.

We seem to focus on the making of CCs as we should. During our process of making, there are times when we must loose and not much is said about it.

I am taking about a two million CC loss today. I will be away from the farm for a few days and feel the product market is too unstable for me to expect my listings to sell without action. So I deleted the listings and drop the prices to a point I feel better about relisting. Overall I did well but I am consciously taking a loss now in order not to loose more.

We all loose at times when playing the market ... but I am still

The layout of my farm changed too from entirely CC focus to the best combined mix of EP and CC items. My mill will spin, I pought all my seeds from the shop and I am done.

And almost broke ... again