I'm broke, again! How do I make ccs?

I have made over 1 Million CCs so far selling Brown Pigs, Blackies, Wooly Pigs and Corn for the Cry Babies Event.
It's like robbery in the Market.

 

To prepare a chart in this environment is quite cumbersome. Spreadsheet package use will make computations effortless and data collection and organization very easy.

My buy price limit (for donation purposes) is 22.47% of exchange value rounded up to the nearest whole cc. This rate does not prevent one from selling and again: ONE MUST DETERMINE AN INDIVIDUAL RATE based on their market specific and resource availability.

The tree fruit where prices are listed in red below are those I will buy for donation purposes. IT IS NOT NESSARY TO COMPUTE A NEW MARKET/EXCHANGE RATE....NOT NECCESSARY .... but it may be used .....effortless with a spreadsheet program.

The following may be seen with no further analysis:

• There are 12 tree fruit which are eligible for purchase on 1/13/2015 and they are ranked.
• List of most tree fruit. Several are purposely deleted. Better to list them all and collect the data. Trends can be seen over time. They may well be purchased for investment purposes and that line of thought may be discussed once one begins to see changes and determine if they are indeed significant or even event motivated.
• Exchange value is listed for convenience but is no longer really needed at this point.
• Market price on three dates are listed. The red highlight indicates buy!
• There are seven tree fruit eligible for purchase on 1/25/2015.
• Of the seven, three are different from the original 12. I do not have as wide a choice and the choices are not all the same but I at least have a choice with some availability with no change in acquisition rate. Discipline is required here because one is tempted to raise the acquisition rate and to do so one should justify it as one will still be required to fund the increase.
• There are eight tree fruit eligible for purchase on 2/7/2015.
• Of the eight, three are different from the original 12.
• Of the original twelve, only three have been eligible for purchase on the dates the data was collected.
• Without detailed analysis I am beginning to wonder whether tree fruit can be proven to be on a permanent rise. Reason: Less variety available at the rate selected BUT I will not raise my rate. My attitude is still: Sell at my rate or I will not buy it!

Only glancing at market price on 1/13/2015 and comparing it to 2/7/2015 there are some ccs which are possible now for: apple, beechnut, chestnut, yellow pear, olive, almond, maple sap, brazil nut, papayas, and lychees. This is true ONLY if purchased at the price on 1/13/2015 and sold on 2/7/2015. Some I am less sure of the small profit because I did not buy according to donation rate or even a definitive logical rate but with other reasons. And "other reasons" can and do generate profits.

Of those where profit may be made, the following were acquired for donation at a predetermined rate: beechnut, chestnut, yellow pear, olive, almond, maple sap, brazil nut, and papaya. The actual cc return on some would be very small and even the return on investment % would be very small. Many would not bother. And even fewer would even realize any profit existed.

An additional dilemma is also created when one sells what one has acquired for donation even though one must fund the donation collection activity. The problem is that one must replace the amount of exchange value of the tree fruit or one has generated a profit on but has made little if any progress at all toward acquiring significant amounts for donation purpose. Acquisition of increased amounts is the goal. One is simply turning tree fruit and generating profit. One should continue to invest over time.

Best Mkt/exch 1/13/2015		Tree Fruit	ex val			rounded up buy price	mkt price 1/13/2015	mkt price 1/25/2015	mkt price 2/7/2015			Mkt/exch 1/13/2015		Mkt/exch 1/25/2015	Mkt/exch 2/7/2015
		Apple	60.00			14.00	25.00	25.99	28.98			.4167		.4332
7		Beechnut	115.00			26.00	24.99	28.99	29.50			.2173		.2521
8		Chestnut	135.00			31.00	29.00	35.50	36.98			.2148		.2630
		Gingko	90.00			21.00	32.00	41.00	27.99			.3557		.5556
		Gold Leaf	135.00			31.00	32.50	26.50	28.00			.2407		.1963
		Lemon	80.00			18.00	24.08	24.00	25.00			.3080		.3000
		Peach	130.00			30.00	34.00	35.00	38.00			.2615		.2692
		Rowan	125.00			29.00	30.00	29.00	31.50			.2400		.2320
		Walnut	70.00			16.00	35.03	39.00	30.10			50.04		.5571
		Plum	90.00			21.00	29.00	27.00	26.65			.3222		.3000
		Mulberry	105.00			24.00	29.36	35.00	29.95			.2796		.3333
		Pear	120.00			27.00	30.04	24.92	30.50			.2503		.2077
		Cherry	125.00			29.00	33.00	29.89	30.26			.2640		.2391
		Acorn	127.50			29.00	34.00	40.56	34.10			.2667		.3181
		Orange	130.00			30.00	50.40	50.00	50.00			.3877		.3846
9		Ang trump	132.50			30.00	28.99	37.00	26.37			.2188		.2792
4		Yello Pear	135.00			31.00	25.00	29.00	29.00			.1852		.2148
		Date	140.00			32.00	66.55	53.00	55.00			.4754		.3786
6		Pine Cone	145.00			33.00	29.99	49.99	32.00			.2068		.3448
1		Olive	150.00			34.00	26.00	34.68	35.00			.1733		.2312
3		Almond	160.00			36.00	29.50	34.00	35.45			.1844		.2125
5		Maple Sap	170.00			39.00	33.99	37.00	44.00			.1999		.2174
		Star Fruit	100.00			23.00	35.00	37.12	37.00			.3500		.3712
		Brazil Nut	125.00			29.00	30.00	31.00	38.00			.2400		.2480
		Mandarin	105.00			24.00	34.00	39.98	30.00			.3238		.3808
		Dragon Ft	150.00			34.00	39.52	46.00	37.91			.2635		.3067
		Guavas	180.00			41.00	54.00	45.47	40.00			.3000		.2526
12		Cocoa Bn	200.00			45.00	49.93	90.00	46.22			.2247		.4500
11		Avocado	220.00			50.00	49.00	52.00	46.10			.2227		.2364
2		Papayas	240.00			54.00	42.54	49.70	54.00			.1773		.2071
10		Kumquat	260.00			59.00	57.26	61.00	68.44			.2202		.2346
		Lychees	280.00			63.00	102.00	79.72	125.00			.3643		.2847
		Jocote	300.00			68.00	70.00	59.60	62.83			.2333		.1987

The double columns mean nothing. I left them to aid me in working with the size of the table later as to copy and paste is not simple in this forum.

*** Profits do appear. For instance, several hundred thousand lychee were purchased at no higher than the acquisition rate used now. Took a year to acquire a little at a time. At least 100% profit now is available due to a need arising: animal feed use!

The set up is where the work is. Now I gather data periodically and interpret the results.

Next post I can continue this. I will take a short diversion. Buying is a part of making ccs. I will illustrate a method of luring sellers to list at a price one can afford. But don't tell Mir85 or she'll tease me about taking advantage of poor farmers. Ummmmmmm Let's just call it a way to spot when someone is trying to take advantage of a poor farmer.

 

Hi Farmer_Broke

As always, Invaluable information you have provided within this thread. It should be a great help to many farmers, myself included. Many thanks for using your time for these market education lessons
Can't wait for the next chapter on the greedy....... you know whats.....

 

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I just grow and sell wheat.

Made me rich.

 

Great to hear someone profit from the Brown Pigs especially. At the time we discussed in this thread, Brown pigs were at about 550 or so on this market. The exchange value is 1300. I still hold a few over 1400, market is at about 4700 and went as high as 7700 I believe. Got tired of selling in lots of under 6 and just stopped. Return on Investment for me is over 850%. Acquired slowly and now I just want to get rid of them and take my profit and move on. I want to sell 1400 in a single lot. There is a disadvantage even selling and not holding for donation, which may never happen again. Profit generated by the sale of Blackies and Wooly Pigs was not nearly as great nor was I as nearly prepared. I was prepared for Corn and did engage in profit-taking. Sure there are several reasons for the Corn price increase on some markets. I did not bother selling much as I wanted the market to absorb the overall loss of corn. Farmers now will either begin producing it and/or buy and until supply and demand forces cause price to stabilize, farmers will pay more.

Over time I have learned more and more regarding the wheat market. Growing and selling wheat is a valid option and personal preference. Good to hear someone feels they have done well with wheat. There is quite a bit which can be seen from the wheat market. Wheat is a newbie crop and one can get some feels as to the new players entering into the game by the wheat listings.

Do you see or feel anything in the future with regard to wheat? Why? How did you determine it? What other crops or products will be affected? What should happen first?

Wheat falls into the grain category and one may prepare a chart similar to the one done with tree fruit above. I simply do not choose to invest the time doing it.

Hello Wolf. Thank you for your kind words. (Post getting lengthy and slow. Will only be able to set the background for market manipulation.)

Those who have no idea as to approximate market price are easy targets to be taken advantage of by those seeking to do it. I would rather feel I am buying giving a decent return than to set one up for abuse. Up to youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ! One engaging in the practice continuously CAN be stopped provided one has a stocked barn and can afford to risk loosing a few ccs to do it. One may even force the individual abusing others in the market into the game of: HOW LOW CAN YOU GO? or HOW MUCH WILL ONE LOOSE TO ABUSE? If the abuser is online and working the market continuously, that individual will know who you are as you stop begin to manipulate them into fairness and you certainly will know who the individual is. More likely than not, the abuser will surface again.

I do not like to see that type of knowingly abuse and if I have time will attempt to force the abuser into a state of rage . If they wish to continue I will use the market to laugh at their attempts and make certain the individual sees it .... and if the individual wishes to continue on then I will communicate I am ROFL and the abuser will learn there are those who will not tolerate it and the abuser becomes green with envy and will become part of peaceful community. There are no quick get rich schemes. Not a single igm will be sent! Details next ... post too long now.


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ALERT ALERT ALERT

There are fewer stars being given away as prizes in events ..... THE DAY OF RECKONING IS APPROACHING AND STARS WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE GAME. Some do not have any to give and will need them. CCs will be made through sales of craft products which give ep and sales of items used in Farmer's Society Quests. Might consider this!

 

Sell chickens!! made me rich!! also sell manure on events and also sell breeding on BB or if you need CC really badly and on the magical stalk row it gives 1000 cc every 24 hours that could be really good!!

 

I'd be rethinking that after the recent changes.

I personally find all these market statistics and calculations ridiculous and confusing - a waste of time for me. I simply sell things slightly cheaper than everyone else still getting a decent profit, and the only things I buy from the market are seeds for a newly unlocked crop where they will be much cheaper than at the shop. For instance rye costs 415 CC per unit whereas I bought it on the market at 113 CC per unit. I saved 30,000 CC buying 100 seeds of rye by purchasing from the market rather than from the shop.

What's more, I don't see anything wrong with this method. Why do we need any of these calculations?

 

i agree squiggle its confusing

 

Hello Kim! There is no faster or more efficient way to make ccs for a newbie than through chickens. And keep the mill spinning producing chicken feed and gradually move to rabbits at night because they take longer. Chickens will fund the expansion. Poop sales during events is/was(?) a real boost to newbies. In no more than two rounds of chickens the pens are paid for and one has them for their game life. Very very few will take that advice. Many do not see the use with 128 chicken pens. One is building the infrastructure of their farm. The disadvantage is one is tied to harvesting chickens every hour and a half or so then.

At one time I was playing chickens and the most I ever turned in a day was over 12,000. Neither of us can produce that many in a day. Who would want to? (The profit was small too but I had nothing either.) After beginning over 40 farms I have found there is no more efficient way to begin than through chicken production.

Hello Squiggle. At one time I also viewed market stats and computations a waste of time. The buying of the 100 seeds from the shop is a daily chore for me. I know exactly which seeds I can buy that will immediately generate a profit if I choose to sell immediately, exactly which ones! And only up to a point and then it becomes cheaper to trade in the market for them. On this market, I do not even begin thinking until I get to Basil. All others and there is an immediate profit, immediate! For instance, try and buy oats r corn in the market for what they are sold for in the shop, no way.

The charts run people away. The most useful for me is in post 369, columns 2 and 5. I have explained the background thoroughly and what it is used for and when. There is no more efficient manner of gathering tree fruit in what will appear to be massive numbers. (This farm is having difficulties acquiring tree fruit in massive numbers at such a rate now. Depends on one's market for rate setting.)

The charts which follow that in post 369 add market quotes. From there I can only prove what I see based on no wild hunches or feelings.

Very very few will engage in the method or spreadsheet development. Those who do will see it and know basic spreadsheet formation understand how effortless this really is and if market data is included periodically find the information invaluable. This is only a single sound method which has been introduced in order for one to develop a long range strategy. What has been introduced is not a beginner's topic and barely even scratches the surface of exchange value use.

The example you have provided with Rye clearly illustrates the reason one should know at what crop to stop buying from the seed shop and go to the market to acquire. And 100 seeds a day from the shop is nothing if one desires massive levels of any crop but that purchase can be extremely profitable. New farms should buy from the shop and immediately take to market to fund their infrastructure and also buy to keep their mills running initially 24/7.

Which three normal animals have the greatest potential of generating profits within the next ten months? I'm broke.

 

Are you asking me to use your charts or give my opinion?

Sorry for all these questions I'll have - if you want me to move to IGM to get off this thread, I can.

Would you be able to tell me: what is the value of using the charts? Is it not simpler, and just as effective, to buy what one needs as one needs it at a cheap price on the market?

 

@squigglegiggle

I think it is great for us to carry on a discussion here. Many will benefit and make their own choice.

I really want to know your opinion regarding the three animals. The charts have been limited to tree fruit only and are useless for animal determination although the same method which focuses on animals should prove useful.
I don't think I could chart Squigglegiggle's feelings here. So I must ask. I do not suggest ignoring ones feelings at all. Quite the contrary. With charts and any computations I seek to confirm the accurateness of my or another's feelings. Some I find accuracy is not determinable until after it is too late to make ccs. I'm broke and want to try and do it before it is too late.

• The main purpose of the charts is to develop a maximum set price to acquire tree fruit for donation purposes over a period of time. (More)
• An initial rate is determined and based on ones personal preference and individual market.
• That rate is based on the exchange value. (EV is FIXED and is one of two rates FIXED and set by the game. Why not use something fixed if we have it? So it is done.)
• The rate is converted to a standard buy price for each tree fruit as the benefit for donation is the same. (If one has very limited funds then one may either lower the rate chosen or aim toward a specific fruit. (More)) This buy price per individual tree fruit is all I need to know. Buying becomes as routine as spinning the wheel.
• The charts illustrate how the rate is determined, the determination of the actual maximum price one will pay for DONTION purpose, and how quick a routine buy decision is made.
• The MORE part: The purchases are made. Market prices change. What was bought for donation all of a sudden turns into an item which may be sold to yield profits. Actual example: Elderberry, Oranges, and Dates met my buy price set. Millions were purchased. The market changed and these can be sold at a healthy profit. I do not remember the lowest price paid but I do know the highest price paid. So if I can make a healthy profit on the highest price paid there is no doubt I can make a profit on anything lower. Basically one is buying across the board at a standard rate. Over times this leads to acquisition of hundreds of thousands. And it gets ridiculous.

I have no problem with buying based on feeling either. For instance, I would not donate apples but I did by 1.6 million and set a maximum buy price based on feelings. Now I am selling them and presently have listings of 3000 at one price and 200 at another and 50 at another. (Just waiting on the market to absorb barn supplies of walnuts and plums before beginning to dump millions at a profit. Acquired by feels and not by way of formal analysis though. I should do it. I'll give the standard excuse: this is a game.

Yes, effective to buy at a price based on feeling because one gets what one wants.

Efficient? I have learned the answer is NO. But this has taken a long time to learn it is not efficient and for several reasons. Example: The current event calls for Lily of the Valley. So I had about 150,000. But I acquired them based on feelings of price rather than a sound method. Profits are being generated but not maximized and most probably due to acquisition method.

I ask you about your opinion of the three animals not to challenge you but because I respect your feelings. I want to know if I see the same as you do with respect to the question. Please do not answer if you feel uncomfortable doing so.

On the front end most of the work is done when using an analysis of this sort. Then only minor modifications necessary. I have begun to do it with breeding animals and what surfaces is amazing. I need approximately 400 million to look at in order to begin to play breeding animals the way I want to play them.

The tree fruit charts explain a method I am absolutely sure works. The method may be applied quite easily to crops also and I believe it is much more effective and efficient to divide the crop analysis into grains, vegetables and flowers. We can generate a few coins without such methods but I'm broke .

Thank you Squiggle.

 

I think that would depend on the time that you're selling. However, if you were to assume that no events were taking place and no events had an OA/FAQ released, I would go based on the fact that not everyone has egg trees, so may want more chickens to produce their own eggs; same goes for cows for milk, and goats. Perhaps rabbits for wool? People like to be in huge supply of lower level items and animals, so I would guess these animals.

What do you mean by a set price? Is this the maximum price at which you are willing to purchase the tree fruit?

What is this rate? How do you calculate it and what is its use/purpose?

Does the "standard buy price" relate to the set price you spoke of earlier?

Ah, I have learnt something new. So the aim in all this chart-making is not merely to acquire profit, but to maximise profit and minimise spending?

Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to help me - and I'm so sorry for my stupidity...I'm very slow at this sort of stuff. I really appreciate your efforts

 

The thoughts and questions are simply beautiful. Sorry taking long to respond. I am having trouble staying signed into the game.

We are together on depending on time of selling. I am acquiring based on no announced events. My three are: peacock (a potential breeding animal, I want all the feed I can handle, and I want the blueberry to make it -- remember what has recently happened to peacock and peacock feed). I want beaver (want all the finished feed I can handle because it takes a long long time to mill, no worry with crops to mill it as they can be grown during animal production in mill if one wishes).

Last I want dogs because they are the best to submit for the animal trophy followed by eagle at the moment. Dog is selling for cheaper than the feed on many markets. This is a sign to watch them. (Will take cheap dog feed but no worry as MM crops needed and I cannot go in all directions at once, I'm broke anyway.) Fourth I want Anaconda. (You want to see chaos and let Anaconda be announced as a breeding animal. Anaconda would be a wealthy farmer's breeding animal. I want the feed also because one cannot mill it as fast as one can produce Anaconda with 41 pens. Feed takes 2 rabbits and 4 chicken so indirectly tied to two animals you mention. (Chickens may be sold in lots of 1000 also.) I'll take the rabbits to hold for events (rarely bother selling in lots of 100), the angora I buy cheap and sell in lots of 100 based on feelings. Chickens I maintain 12,000 which is nothing and can sell them all in a day.) By the way, goat is overdue for use in an event. Holding and acquiring Angora bats (I think this is the cheapest bat) as breeding bat call is overdue (slowing dumping bat feed not). No other breeding animal below its exchange value FYI. Want more cows but for events and not the cow milk. Milk trees provide it much much cheaper.

Exchange value is set by the game and we can do nothing but use it. Set price is determined by an individual. And yes, this is the price to pay for DONATION of tree fruit purposes. For INVESTMENT purpose then a higher price one sets may be used. What one purchases for DONATION often times turns into and item which is really an INVESTMENT which yields profits. We must acquire to sell it. (Selling can be address once many are somewhat clear on the acquisition. Donating has its own issues and again, feelings do come into consideration.) I really try and keep INVESTMENT buying separate from DONATION buying.

Posts #362 and #364 illustrate how the rates were developed. The rate is 22.47% of the exchange price and the rounded UP to the nearest whole cc. (The rate was selected based on the 12 lowest tree fruit mkt/ev. I took the highest of the 12 lowest of all which was Cocoa Bean at the time. The rate is working well for a level 70 farm with nearly 29 million and I am trying to acquire tree fruit to send the baby farm to the TOP 1000. The rate most probably needs to be adjusted upward for the broke farm as the markets is different and appears to have changed. The speed of acquisition is efficient but much slower.)

Once a maximum buy price is determined one may write it on a sticky for a month and after that one will remember the prices because it is routine and without thought thereafter. The price of Baha tree fruit does not matter if acquiring for donation purposes. The benefit is EXACTLY the same. (Lychee was acquired previously and a few hundred thousand remain now. At the time of acquisition the price was at or below my set acquisition price so I routinely bought. NOW, there is a greater that 125% easy profit which is due to changes in the game which I had no way of knowing would take place at the time of buying. Hope this makes sense.)

Answer (not quoting due to length of post) The standard buy price is used routinely once one has determined it. It is now set by the individual using it and not the game. The game has set the exchange value which all this is based upon. Hope this helps.

GO Squigglegiggle GO!

You are absolutely right and I can say it no clearer than you: THE AIM IN ALL THIS CHART-MAKING IS NOT MERELY TO ACQUIRE PROFIT, BUT TO MAXIMIZE PROFIT AND MINIMIZE SPENDING. <-------You are so so good!

Now for the best part: The aim in buying for donation is really not what we are after in the making cc thread. There is just about no way to stop one from making ccs. And this is if buying with the purpose of giving it away.

Now think what will happen if one buys to make a profit from the very beginning? If you are clear on this part you will easily see it if applied to other areas.

And if you begin this "chart-making" foolishness using a spreadsheet package, there is no stopping what you will see but you yourself.

You are amazing!

No way you show stupidity. I do not believe it. No!

Thank you also for helping me.

 

Wow, thank you! That makes so much sense now!!!

 

exactly -0- ccs again and flat broke

I think I need a plan.

The shop-aholic program I attend, sponsored by dear puppiesnponies, is not working for me

I need this corn of the En Forum to .

New quest in grapevine confirms the above method works. Lots of tree fruit which may be called for in that quest was purchased without thought using the method illustrated above.

Now I might think just little: How much profit do I want and what is the price?


Hiding this here too: THERE IS A MOVE DEVELOPING FOR THOSE BUYING STARS!!!!!!!!!! Profits are being made in several areas. Again, the recent events have limited or excluded stars from the reward. Developers are just about ready to get a handle on that problem!

Problem? Profit? Problem? Profit?

Letters in common p - r - o


Got it! Market Pro! Those who do not have the stars buy them They will buy them through ep craft goods and society quests..... Last alert.

flat broke again

 

Tsk! Tsk! Broke, for the program to work, you must attend meetings! Have you missed any? I will have to check the attendance roster!

While it is true that long time players have accumulated a lot of stars, they are still very necessary for younger/newer farms to advance up the tree of wisdom. I remember being told that we would have something to do with our excess stars. You may be witnessing something I have missed but would it not make more sense to create something in game that would use our stars rather than removing them from lower levels by eliminating them from events? Maybe I don't see the big picture....after all I am just a simple farmer

 

Puppiesnponies has agreed to serve as Chairlady of the Board of "broke enterprises." I must try and make some sense to her with my nonsense. But I'll go shopping first so I won't feel guilty shopping after I write to her. brb
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Back ... What a nice ramble through the market place. Down to business with the Chairlady!


@puppiesnponies

Yes ma'am, no cool shades

We agree that many higher level players do have stars and some with an excess amount of them. Mooboy has earned them over time and immediately comes to mind. Game producers have realized for a long time that some use for the stars must be made in order to attract those with stars to use them and thus the stars are removed from the game. Some higher level players have few stars and relatively no concern to get them either.

When producers have strategically designed a way to attract those with stars to use them then this new attraction will/may also attract high level players AND low level players to acquire them in order to obtain the strategically designed new attraction. What new attraction could that be? Perhaps the new island!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those without stars will want them. How will they get them? They may be obtained in four ways:

1. Awards earned from completing events or parts of them. (There have been no stars given as rewards in recent events which indicates a minor degree of control put in place. Not likely many will suddenly gain stars in this manner but a possibility.)
2. Farmer's Society Quests. Higher level players have exhausted many if not all opportunities to buy the cheap stars (stars DO have a price with some more costly than others). Lower level players may have some yet to complete. But at some point it becomes cheaper to simply PURCHASE ep in order to level up and gain the star. Very expensive to do so yet there is a point that is reached where it is more efficient to do so.
3. Purchase of ep craft items in order to level up (reason discussed above).
4. Stars are given away periodically as daily gifts.

I don't know where the few thousand ep generating craft products came from in my pantry oh sorry . But they are here.

A price per unit of ep was set and goods arrived over time. . ALL but one have increased in market price. Pantries are full of these craft products as many are a waste to produce. (Each to their own though.) And this is why my crafts have been shut down for ages and probably why I cannot give them away. I will pay 100 CAC if someone will just take them off my property! And the sugar and ... right along with them........no return! (CAC and pumpkin jam will increase in price also but for other reasons.)

Prices have gone up 25 - 30% for ep generating craft products in the last 3 weeks. A little late to acquire massive stocks. I tried to sell a lot of 25 and was unsuccessful. Let a while go by and put 2 - 3 lots of 25 more on the market at a decent profit. GONE! How many times have you seen lots of 25 of any craft item on the market? Baha ep craft goods have even fallen in price and I see nothing there.....right now.

Could a higher level farmer be buying ep products across the board for whatever purpose? Yes. Or could it be several buying? Why?

Can the price increase be solely due to ingredient prices increasing on the market overall? Unlikely just yet as pantries have a few and a demand must be created. Even with a weak demand time must pass (look and laugh at Oat Bread). Bread rolls are well below their suggest market price (saleable craft items have no exchange value but a suggested market price.) Yet bread rolls are above what I was willing to pay per unit of ep. (I still managed to gather over 6,800.) There is even a FSQ which gives a few as rewards. hmmm Coincidental?

These ep products have been underpriced and stable for a long long time. I see no other reason than ep buying with the purpose of buying stars. These ep products are overdue to bring some semblance of balance to the craft market.

An increase in the demand for the goods will also increase the demand for sugar and salt which will also generate a sale where RL cash is exchanged and desired company revenue is generated.

Notice there have been no direct calls for rhubarb. Rhubarb is used in Pink Jelly so there is an ongoing indirect call. There is also rhubarb jam which gives 300 ep. A combination of indirect calls will increase the price of rhubarb to balance it within the crop market. No need for a direct call if indeed what I suggest holds true.

Notice no direct call for cherry. One use of cherry is cherry cheesecake which is an ep item also. A need for ep will cause a decrease in cherries in barns. This decrease will cause a price increase as farmers attempt to produce tree products for a rumored quest involving tree fruit and no room to produce cherries.

cya Chairlady Puppiesnponies . . . . . . . . . .

 

Broke, I felt the price of EM and SW will rise like a rocket high nowadays.

EM provides 30% (B)EP on harvesting. However, it requires a Royal Jam (needs 10 Magnolias) and Magnolias called for upcoming permanent quest. Not sure to acquire cheap Magnolias from market. -edit- Magnolia is not called for upcoming quest.
Then, SW also provides 30% (B)EP on harvesting. However, it requires a Flower Wreath (needs 10 manure) and price of manure is not stable anymore.


Am I misunderstanding is likely to happen next?

 

Puppiesnponies,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that SillyGuy came around here making sense and ...... and you know what.......I spent all my ccs and have exactly -0- ccs again. I'm flat broke and it is all SillyGuy's fault for making too much sense. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo......not again!

 

I really am sorry to make you flat broke again.
Hit me if it would make you better...