Drops

Yes that's right folks it's time for noob question of the day

I'm interested in event drops.

People have said planting longer growing crops increases drop rate. It isn't the time in the ground that increases drop rate since leaving lettuce in the ground for hours doesn't increase its drop rate. So what they are really saying is planting crops that have higher experience value [and happen to take longer to grow] increases drop rate.

So what really increases drop RATE is experience points gained per harvest [click], whether it's a high experience crop vs lettuce or a pink pen compared to a beginning pen etc.

Taking CAC or pumpkin jam increases the experience points of each plot harvested because it increases the number of plants harvested. When someone holds the pointer over a crop one can see that more experience points are gained when one is using CAC or PJ.

Yet people say taking CAC doesn't increase drop rate. It should increase drop rate since it increases experience points per click, which is what drop rate is calculated on.

Is there a section somewhere that explains this?

 

Hi d5aisy The drop rate is based on time rather than EP, I will explain more

First of all, you are right that the drops are not based on time in the ground: You don't get more drops from lettuce by leaving it to sit for hours in the ground. Nor do you get less drops from roses by using SG to speed them up.

The drops are based on the growing time listed in their info. How do we know that it is this and not EP? Well some crops have higher EP/hr rate than others. Roses for instance has higher EP/hr than any other crop (I think). But players tested to see if roses give more drops per hr listed growing time than other crops, and concluded that they don't. Using EP boosters like Zucchini apple bread does not increase drops, again by experience.

Next, carrot apple chutney and pumpkin jam does not increase EP. EP are gained per plot harvested, not per crop harvested. Next time you use CAC or PJ check the EP info before and after

I have no idea of what give more drops of crops, trees, and stables. There are several things to take into consideration, like the time reducing runes for stables, the use of water on crops and stables, and that trees with 20hr maturing time are usually left idle for 4hrs a day. I never cared enough about this question to try to dig up some info on it.

Finally, everything that reduces time for crops/stables/trees, indirectly helps with the drops. Apart from that there are no artisan products that will increase drops in general. There are a few who will increase sugar or salt or elixir specifically. There are also refinements that increase specific tools, and specific crafting ingredients.

I don't think there is a place where this is explained, the Farmerama team like to keep the drops shrouded in mystery farmers have had to work out most of this by testing, so thanks to all who have contributed

 

Thank you d5aisy for posting this and Mir for clearing it up. I have always wondered about this.

 

Hi d5aisy -
Here is a good overview of drops that Suzee made: General Event Strategies

PJ/CAC do not increase drops; they increase your harvest yield

As I understand it from our event drop experts, crops in 1x1's give the best rate for event drops because the smaller the plot, the greater the chance to get a drop. The drop rates are random but are like a lottery. You get 202 chances with 1x1 plots vs 44 2x2 plots. There are some players who say trees are good for drops too but as Mir states, you will have idle time as they are for only 20 hours. If you can harvest on time and keep your fields rotating, it is better to have crops (IMHO). It is why the recommended strategy before events start is to plant your longest crop to give you a good head start on event drops.

Move your trophies to each field prior to harvesting
Keep increasing your trophy % to boost drop rates
Keep your farm rotating often - in theory you should get the same number of drops if you harvest lettuce every 5 minutes for 18 hours that you would if you planted carnations. This I cannot verify for certain as I will not experiment by planting/harvesting lettuce every 5 minutes.

Good luck!

 

Well luckily we don't need to harvest lettuce for 18 hours to prove this wrong we can harvest wheat or hay for 2 hours and then compare the drops to a 2 hour crop and we know we get way better drops from the 2 hour crop.

"The drops are based on the growing time listed in their info."... Mir

Ok, this makes sense since CAC doesn't work, and with Arrouquelous's instant carnations information I guess I'm starting to get a better understanding.

I will try to look up some crops that lower levels, like me that aren't anywhere near carnations can use and some crops the early level farmers can use to try a super grow love refinement for events we wanna waste a lot of supergrow on.
There are times the rewards are so good we might wanna spend a whole field of supergrow to get the event drops, and it's not something I even thought I needed to do but I guess we need an ace in the whole to try to get event drops when the rate is so horribly low like it is in this event

 

d5aisy, the best crop to refine for that purpose is roses (from level 66), without doubt. With the two SG refinements, and using white innocence and fruit cake, roses mature in 8 minutes, or 32 minutes on comfort fields

 

Caution, since the drops are randomized, you need to have a quite large sample and multiple tries to test this accurately(no, not a true random, because factors like length, etc factor in... even aside from the technicality that no algorithm is truly absolutely random.....lol).

This is why harvesting lettuce, say, for 19 hours will give a far more accurate result than harvesting wheat. Also, make sure you use the same plot size, etc.

Or, to put it another way, if you roll 2 sets of dice, one set red and other set blue (but otherwise identical), does getting all 6's with the blue dice really mean they are better? In this case, there are quire a few variables. We don't really know all the variables that are randomized and which are stratified, but others who have looked at this seriously have found that the longer the crop, the greater the return. Time, rather than EP production or crop quantity seems to be at least one weighted factor.

 

Thank you Mir, I have never tried this combination. Roses and SGs. I usually do them for drops. But not with fruit cakes and white innocence. I will keep tip in mind from next event.

I have another doubt. Some craft products say more EP from sowing. Carrot bread says more EP from sowing. Do we gain EP from sowing ? I think not.

 

Carrot bread says more 20% more EP from sowing seeds. I think this means when we harvest them.

 

That is how I have understood it, its EP for sowing seeds as opposed to pens, workshops or trees.
I am going to guess this is a minor translation issue. I don't speak German, but in some languages there is just one word for the whole process. (individual words also, but anyway...) If it bothers you/confuses you bring it to the attention of the team and it seems like someone will likely edit it eventually. In some places they say "for harvesting crops", not "sowing seeds". I am guessing it should be consistent.

 

Will do so. Thank you Arielh and woody.

 

Thank you Mir!
This is brilliant information. In 4 levels when I'm high enough to get roses I will begin to work on the SG refinements for roses. Another essential piece of information that would be great to put in our non existant permanent files

 

So those two trophies I just received last night for starting the country fair and farming contest quests have to be moved to the field being harvested to be effective? Just sticking them in the park won't help at all?

 

Hi sewinglady- yes, they need to sit on your farming land to be effective as they do nothing for you in the park. They only work on the field in which they are placed so you need to move them from field to field prior to harvesting for you to get the increase in drops. Eventually, you will be able to access the Living Legend rune (at the top of the Tree of Wisdom for 300 stars), turn your trophies in and never have to move them again...just think how strong your biceps will be from moving them so much!

 

yay. One more thing I get to remember to do all the time. I am quickly figuring out that it is perfectly okay to take animals out (preferably after harvesting) change to crop fields and vice versa depending upon what you need. That shovel tool sure gets a workout.

 

Just when you move them, give it some time to take effect and better refresh you screen by using F5 to be sure the effect is registered before harvesting your fields.

 

Before I opened the tree rune (the top rune where you can put them and they will impact all your fields), I would plant 1-2 1X 1 squares with corn or tomatoes, something that would stick out obviously and contrast the event/base crop. That way I would see the oddballs and it would remind me to put my trophies up.

 

I have little odd 1x1s at the bottom of my screen in each field where I put them...so kind of the same thing - try to put them almost the same place in each field so when I look, if they aren't there, then I go back and find them and move them to the next field. I am collecting quite the tidy sum of mugs since I'm not participating in Comic #8...wish they were worth more in CCs when they convert, but free CCs are free CCs...especially for doing nothing.