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  1. TCRooster

    TCRooster Forum Demigod

    This morning I planted refined onions that would be ready just as I got home and ginger - got 165 drops, but also have a few trees that are ready to pop. Just built 41 workshops as I know time will be tight for me, what with that horrible thing called work. Currently blasting crops to get to suitable levels for planting overnight.
     
  2. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    If there's one thing for me definitively proven by both the results most players are reporting and what I've seen in my farms this morning is the utter drop-yielding superiority of longer crops deployed on 1x1s over any other configuration of either crops and plot sizes or pens/workshops. This is due to this unusually high event's drop rate.

    Difference is so blunt that should close debate on this subject for good. At lower drop rates for all kinds of drops, there has never been a chance as clear as this one to assess this matter.

    What definitively proves that is the fact that most are seeing more than 50+ drops of the same kind from a single field (the same I saw today, but only over 1x1s). That can never be achieved with 2x2s or workshops/pens because there's a maximum of 1 drop of any kind (including event's ones) that can pop up from a single plot at any given harvest.

    The other thing that proves (by comparing results in my farms) is the effect of Howies and drop-boosting CRs: they help a lot.

    In fact, on purpose, I configured my farms differently for the sake of research on this subject (as I wrote yesterday on this thread, I had the hunch that event's drop rate, due to the high daily requirement, had to be higher than usual): best results were achieved with same crop (spinach) sown on 1x1s, not less than 30% higher than same spinach deployed on 1x2s. The worst results, by a painful far, were achieved in the farm with the most pens/workshops.
     
  3. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Yes, with a drop rate this high, there is no question that long crops on 1x1 plots are the best :)
     
  4. CaliChrome

    CaliChrome Forum Baron

    I wouldn't worry about the fourth field right now. Open the next chamber for 10 GBs and then either open grapes or bananas. Always plant 1x1s on Baha if you can. Use Pumpkin Jam, CAC or pineapple cake to increase your yield. The best benefit of pineapple cake is that it increases the yield of Baha trees by 1 as well as Baha crops.

    Grapes will be used in parrot feed and bananas will be used in monkey feed so stockpiling these will benefit you in the long run.

    Planting only sugar cane doesn't get you far unless you can be there every 15 minutes to harvest it.


    EDIT: Here is the link to the Baha strategy thread. You can read it and ask your questions there for more help.
     
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  5. 100keltic

    100keltic Board Analyst

    Question;

    I read, <and mostly is mixed with the book of other reading I been doing> that you could only have one of each pet on an area.
    I am most likely reading this wrong, but I read you are placing all in the park?

    -.-You know, this will be the 4th time I redo my word doc. as to what does what where and when.
    1 up on trees and crops?! grumbles away...... I so need an upgrade on the component between the chair and the keyboard-.-
     
  6. CaliChrome

    CaliChrome Forum Baron

    keltic, just keep in mind that pineapple cake only works on BAHA and since it is a diamond slot item, you can't run it when you are running CAC. I use it between events on Baha. You can run it, harvest your trees on Baha and then delete it to run CAC the morning an event starts. I wouldn't use it just for that one harvest but if you had it running the night before and it still has time left on it, this would be the one time when I would do that. Of course, if you do that, you have to hand harvest your Baha trees.


    On the note of drops! As I was still propagating my event plants, I was running 2x2s on my Magical Glade. When I harvested, none of the trees around the edges were harvested and I got 39 out of 40 2x2s there! Not bad! (Of course now that I have enough, I'm switching to 1x1s.)
     
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  7. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    keltic,

    I usually call both the Garden and Shipwreck Island as "parks". My "them" referred to the B-EP-givers, not the owls or any other pet. What I meant is that I'll place my 3 B-EP-givers in Shipwreck Island, all the 3 of them. Of course, I have just one owl per land, 6 of them in total. (I've just edited that post of mine because it was indeed confusing: it could be understood the way you did -not now, after my edition-, so, thanks for the heads up).

    This result further proves 1x1s superiority in drop-yielding terms. You don't tell what you planted but it must have been something long, for sure. If you got 39/40 be sure that you would have gotten probably 50+ if those had been 160 1x1s and probably 40/45+ if those had been 80 1x2s. For instance, in my main I got 58 event's drops from 160 1x1s with spinach.
     
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  8. CaliChrome

    CaliChrome Forum Baron

    That was my planting of my first harvest of 90 event plants. I wasn't aiming for more drops. Not enough to run 1x1s until after the second harvest. I used SSG, SG, manure and water as well as having a CAC running to maximize my yield in the shortest time possible. I have now replanted the field in 1x1s of event plants. My LL trophies are at 26%.
     
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  9. woody

    woody Commander of the Forum

    The BEP for this one is nice, but nothing you cannot get elsewhere in time. I am not sure I will finish/ Nice prizes, but not enough to stress over. I, too just plan on doing what I can and having fun.

    I will say that things get a lot easier as you go up.
     
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  10. SuzeeRabbit

    SuzeeRabbit Old Hand

    Color me stunned. They tweaked the algorithm for the drops. I got close to twice the number of drops I usually get. At least 175% usual numbers. No longer worried about drops for this event. As long as I get enough drops to easily finish the event, I'm happy. Assuming nothing interferes with my schedule, I'll get this event done. I used trees and small plots w/ carnations on most of my four fields.

    The bottom line is... people should do what works for them. If they're happy with their drop count... they are doing what works. What worries me is when people give misinformation and mislead the players that are struggling.

    I've been beating that drum since Dec 2011 when we had a winter event that gave us nearly one drop for every square, and I had very low trophies that I had trouble remembering to move. During that event even I got nearly 200 drops per field. But, my arms got tired of drumming. I created the General Event Strategies thread. That's pretty much all the energy I have left for that topic.

    The fact is people choose to believe what they want to believe despite any evidence you might come up with. In other words there will be people who choose to believe that it is EP related and will plant their pink/red pens or red roses forever. That's OK with me. I just hate the misinformation that causes other players problems.
     
  11. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    Suzee,

    I'm an open-minded guy by definition, and many times I have no problem to stand corrected when I'm proved wrong and I even disprove myself about anything when I have good enough doubts -self-originated or coming from others- by checking again, and change what I believe in accordance.

    Hence, I cannot agree more with you: the problem is not one's own beliefs if they work for oneself; the problem is to mislead those having real trouble by stubbornly repeating what has been proven time and again wrong/sub-standard in efficiency terms -in this case, about best potential drop-yielding methods, but it applies to every debatable subject-. It's in human nature to many times contest something just for the sake of contesting what some very specific people say, as if their identity depended on that.... (resigned sigh).

    That's why I'm highlighting that, in this occasion, given this unique chance of having an unusually high drop rate that yields more than the maximum number of 2x2 plots you can place in one field, it's now proven beyond any possible sensible doubts that 1x1s have a higher drops-yielding potential and that it's a lost opportunity when farms are configured otherwise -at least for drop-boosting purposes, of course-.

    But, in due time, the debate will be placed again over the table. Just because human nature doesn't change.
     
  12. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    -.- was going to pass on this event, just took a look at prizes again and i cant pass up on the trees. its all about the trees isnt it?
    200 plumes and 600 drops, i will make 10 workshops. just planted first seeds now, didnt prep for it so only have 67 drops so far but no biggie, they will easily come. have fun all.
     
  13. FarmerMolly22

    FarmerMolly22 Exceptional Talent

    :music: I am overjoyed with my drops..... yay! It seems they upped the drop rate and wow what a difference. I always use 1 x 1 fields except in baha, where I normally use comfort.... and my drops doubled today when I harvested. Now, I got a late start as work dictated most of my day, but I am starting and I now have higher hopes for a better outcome with the event... Yay!!!
     
  14. igotfrogs

    igotfrogs Forum Overlooker

    hey guy's .... what would be the longest night crop you would advise to put in with this event ??? i'm thinking doing a night crop in the start to get the drops up ..... but don't know what you might be best ?... dont dont have the insta roses you all talk about lol ....
     
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  15. labmommy30

    labmommy30 Forum Duke

    I get all of my harvests in, decide what time I want to get up, then place a crop that runs that long. It will vary for people with different crops available by level, tonight I intend to use onions with water. I don't have the carnations, but everyone is loving them right now. Hazelnuts have always been good to me too!
     
  16. TCRooster

    TCRooster Forum Demigod

    My advice, frogs would be the longest one to fit your night schedule. I know I'll plant event crops overnight and then refined carnations whilst I'm at work - that way I maximise drops and don't leave my farm idle. But make sure you can get enough harvests of the event crop my doing the other crop thing!;)
     
  17. igotfrogs

    igotfrogs Forum Overlooker

    yeah i havent really messed about much in the greenhouse as yet because i don't understand much about it ..... i might go with Carnations maybe i just dont know if they will cut back my growing of the event plant to much thats what i;m worried about ..... I water everything that goes into the ground .... but manure prices will sky rocket before to long ....
     
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  18. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Carnations are really long. Great for first harvest of the event, but I wouldn't grow them during the event, it just takes up time where you could have grown event crops instead.

    My plan is to grow to rounds of event crops per day. Then when I am finished with the second round, I just plant whatever will be ready in the morning. Much like labmommy and TC said ;)

    Remember: long crops don't yield more drops per hour. So the important thing is not how long the crop is, but not to leave the farm idle. Therefore: the best crop is the one you can harvest as soon as it is done :p
     
  19. 100keltic

    100keltic Board Analyst

    See my tag, I am a card carryin' member of the 40 watt club. I am sure it read as English to everyone else, I just get things a tad more slower than others.

    I like to write<who are we kidding, copy/paste. Me write snickers> all ideas all ways, as you all have tried them, and I get a path from you, then after trying and I have some time under my belt I can tweak the ways I learn from reading to my way, as of now I have no way all ways are a mystery to me. So I take all of yours look I done got me a path.:music:
    I thank-you for taking the time to let me double check on the words, -.-as with the how to use craft items word doc. I did without asking around, I am now redoing for the 4th time.....Boy can I ever tell I done did it all by myself-.-
     
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  20. OldMacDonald88

    OldMacDonald88 Forum Greenhorn

    To get a good start in a event I think time is the key for best result not ep, regarding drops. (at least in this one, for me )

    I'm a premium farmer and start all events filling my plots with trees, taking the maximum advantage of the autoharvester for trees.
    The idea is you can leave your trees out and the fruit and ep piles up.

    But if you time it right you can get two harvests close to one another in the first half hour of the event. I did that and here is the result.
    I have one Howie that I move around, and I start the two CR that yields extra drop. Missing one trophy.

    Magical glade
    first harvest: 182 trees (12h/xxl) = 35 (only howie)
    second harvest 142 trees = 35

    Main field / 200 trees (20h)
    first = 84
    second: = 79

    Green meadow / 196 trees (20h)
    first = 69
    second = 73

    Bahamarama / 186 trees (20h)
    first = 60
    second = 80 (used mulch)

    Total 515

    The drop rate is way higher this event but normally I land between 250-300 drops.
     
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