I'm broke, again! How do I make ccs?

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  1. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    SillyGuy,

    Glance at posts 222 and 232 in this thread (there are a couple of more) and look for the words "white innocence" or you can do a search using farmer_broke. This was about Nov. 2015 (about 7 months ago). I said long-term investment. Many were using to level the florist trade. BUT

    Ocean Day event difficulty ------ high!

    Even a free junk CAC cloud row given away .... (even said in that event strategy thread that it would prove useless in the future.) Farners better use it and know how to use it properly if they have any hopes of completing events. Price drop in CAC is only temporary.

    Super grow being given away like pheromones were ..... (and pheromones are still being given away yet they are being advertised at a ridiculous price. Right, hahahahaha, ridiculous price today. hint hint) And why would I want my farm wife to give me 600 ppheromone trees? hahahahaha

    Today able to sell easily white innocence at 800% PROFIT at the low. 800% profit and the rise is not over. Look at the suggested market price of white innocence and you will see why I looked into it further. I did not believe it! And you play the "domino effect" and the profits are yet to appear significantly but they are on the way.

    Super grow is a revenue item for BP. (Why give it away if not to promote it?) Simple, BP is now beginning to cash in! hahahaha Only natural for a game in the gaming industry today. It MUST be done or the game producing would not be attempting to maximize RL profits. And they are. hahaha Easy, they better or better sell the game ... hahaha

    On another note, notice how the increase in game revenues have also caused a ddcrease in the number of glitches in the game. hahahaha No need to buy any of that garbage about why the game could not be fixed. It can be done easily by qualified personnel....and it was not/ is not free! hahaha

    Have never been wrong about any recommendation made here in this thread. Surely the day will come.

    HOWEVER, I recently and openly disagreed with a farmer's investment and I was wrong. I respect this farmer and I know to admit I was wrong openly to him:

    @Mooboy

    I openly criticized your (and I believe Aluntino and Arielh's) investment in a somewhat high level breeding animal (cuckoo). You presented the investment in a strategy thread I believe. My reasons for disagreement were stated (and I support them still) and I thoroughly understand your reason for the investment. Even worse, I would have routinely made the same investment and have even discussed the reasons for doing so in this thread.

    A similar opportunity to invest presented itself twice I believe and I deliberately chose not to make it. Your reasoning was correct and mine was not. I did not place sufficient reliance on what I knew full-well to be the price pattern history of new items in this game.

    I would already have sold and made an easy couple of million. Good job!
     
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  2. alexis2112

    alexis2112 Forum Pro

    The amount of ccs being discussed in this thread makes my head spin! But I have to remind myself I've only been playing for 4.5 months! xD

    I've stopped spending for a while (which means no progress in FSQs) to try to accumulate the security of a nest egg. I have access to multiple stables of one animal which sells fairly high, and 5 trees with fruit which does the same, but they are both worth less and less with each passing day. Clearly the time to save is now.

    The only place I'm spending is in the market. I'm still trying to buy eggs/goat milk/cow milk cheaply and sell high. But I've also made a rather startling discovery.

    There are often 2 or 3 items listed at prices several thousand ccs cheaper than the bulk of the listings. Normally I would have listed my own products even more cheaply, just to make a sale. But I suddenly realised that I could buy the cheap listings when able, then list them with my own at a higher price. The profit margin for the items purchased is not as high as my own products, but there's still a profit.

    Today I hit 3.6m ccs.

    I'm desperate to spend and push myself forward in the game, but I'm going to try to hang on for another million or two. I realise my transactions are very small compared with the rest of you, but realising I could buy a few products cheaply and then relist them with my own at a higher price was a revelation for me.

    But then business and maths have never been my strong suits. :p :)
     
  3. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    I am Surprise at the Cost of Selling Kiwi Feeds as they was selling as High as 9000 CC each now back to Average of 7000 CC. Obviously this is the Best Feeds to Mill to Sell. For Those who got Milling Subscription would make a Killing on Milling Kiwi Feed BUT you have to be at least Level 95 Farmer. As I am Level 95 Farmer, Plus got Loads of Laurels in my Barn anyway.

    I Think i will Start to Hoard Many Laurel Crops as i can as they sell for good CC too. Not Bad for 3 half Hour Crop !!! Average 90 CC per Crop. As I have Grown to many of nearly every other crop in my barn except for long time crops

    Broke is good thing I held on to my stock of Breeding Cuckoos as I haI ve made lots of CC as many farmers have been buying them to complete Cuckoo Breeding Quests as there are Now Five Cuckoo Quests to complete. Which Means Demands to Breeding Cuckoos would be higher than that most other breeding animals. As there is 5 Quests to Fulfill.

    Plus I have been stocking up Level 1 and Level two Breeding Goats and Breeding Turkeys. The Prices had already started to climb on these. The Next Event is a Breeding Event. So it also push up prices of Pheromones too.

    I got back all the CC Buying many Breeding Cuckoos before Cuckoo Breeding Quests was made Permanent. I been looking at my Markets that the Prices of nearly all Fruits have jumped up a fair bit it price to what they use to retail selling prices in the market. I am Guessing Less Farmers are Reaping less Fruits than they use to be. Plus cannot keep up with Supply and Demands in the Markets too for quests, Farm House Orders and Mill Feeds.

    It is Starting to get Pricey to complete in Top 500 or Top 1000. I am Turning my Efforts to Island Fruit Trees as they have far better Exchange Value of Fruits. The Highest on the Main Farm is Maples Fruits. But we seem to be getting new Additions of Fruit Trees on the island that is permanent. I am about to Unlock Seagrapes Now and Start Build up Stocks of Seagrapes. Plus it will help lots to level up island with extra helps of Clouds to Boost Bahm EP on Island Fruit Trees. Plus The Use of Chestnut King is Great help too.
     
  4. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    ive spent 3 million on base animals cause they have been so cheap, even 1st lv breed animals, almost broke now. sold 1000 cuckoos yesterday for 349cc and later bought them back for 190cc. trying to complete quests that reward pf. market prices are all over the place, great opportunity to make a lot of cc with upcoming bbd. stocking up on brown pigs when i find them under 1000cc to work towards a piggy bank for soup n friends. but then again, why donate the piggy bank when i can sell it and buy 3-5x the ep and bep on the market for the same price. confusing times.
     
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  5. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Splash of Color is good illustration of where ccs can easily be made gathering regularly at low rates. Not much time to bother with the event so periodically listed: potatoes, lettuce, turkey feed, goat feed, turkey, goats, speckled goat, black goat, even a few chickens and sunflowers. With only a few hundred paint pallets and riding lessons, sold out quickly. Easy ccs. No complaints as I didn't grow anything or produce what was sold. Slowly!

    I let the market absorb pheromones and cuckoos with no effort to sell. No hurry.

    Whet's next?
     
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  6. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    made 5 million cc from event, was down to 500k cc:p mostly from breed animals. didnt sell many of the animals ive been stocking up and buying cause market prices still low but the time will come. i had 9k cuckoos before event and now have over 12k even after some breeding. people still dumping them. barn is slowly becoming healthy. good thing it doesnt cost us anything to have animals in barn like extra feed.

    i find it hard keeping track of everything. my mind can only remember so much and i hate writing everything down. wish there was a script that worked with the market helping to keep track as we scroll through. reminding us to buy or sell at certain prices we set without having to look back and forth at a piece of paper. 90% of feed and artisan products are a mystery to me when i scroll though them.
     
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  7. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    Splash of Colour Certainly Helped Me Made 10 Million Plus CC sold half of my stock of Potatoes, Many Paint Pallets and Riding Lessons and Selling some Breeding Animals. Mostly Breeding Cuckoos.

    Feelfree2win that good to make 5 Million CC as you needed it. I got too many Cuckoos I was too busy buying cheap breeding Cuckoos to finish off the Cuckoo Quests. Yes there is many things we need to keep track off in our barns.

    I did make good money growing and selling turkeys. Will have to restock these once prices have cooled down. But Cuckoos did not sell for high price in my market this time bit odd !!!
     
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  8. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    What do I do with the cuckoo, well cuckoos? I do have one cuckoo pen and even produced one cuckoo, just one.

    The lowest market to exchange values are: cuckoo followed by dog followed by eagle. The advantages of using the cuckoos for the animal trophy are: the low market to exchange and the volume which is readily available. Cuckoo feed is too expensive to produce them and one is currently making decisions based upon the market of the free cuckoo. Market price on Market 40 is 189. Some apparently were selling at as high as 275.

    I believe the days of the 100 cuckoo are history. How many cuckoos are you holding I your barn? I know some people are holding them. How long do you plan to hold them? I didn't sell the one I produced So I have at least one. when do I sell it?
     
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  9. bygo_cris

    bygo_cris Count Count

    I still have 1600 cuckoos in my barn after using them in some events. And I think I will keep them for a wile until I will decide to sell them :p Meanwhile I will produce more :music:
     
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  10. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Why produce more? The pens are 3200. The feed on this market is 981. Cuckoos are listed for 181.00 . Surely one would not buy the feed and suffer an 800 loss (181 - 981) on production. They can be produced in 1.5 hours with no water. Assume one grows their own crops for feed and mills the feed. Even say one has -0- out of pocket costs. One is still better off producing the chicken and selling to buy Cuckoos.

    At what price does one sell the free cuckoos?
     
  11. puppiesnponies

    puppiesnponies Living Forum Legend

    Hi broke:)
    Just saw in the grapevine that we are getting new trees tomorrow. I am hoping you will help me with this new dilemma. You have a bunch of farms and hate to grow junks but want to make some CC. I need more space! How much is the rent for a field or two on one of your farms? This could be a win-win proposition for us both;):pxD
     
  12. meba091

    meba091 Forum Veteran

    LolxD

    I still hold on to mine and keep buying when I hit a bargain. I have about 19,000 and waiting for the price to go up. I hope they reach 300 or more some day, but I can wait. While I wait I produce moustache and sell it all. It's fast and the price is still nice. Will do that as long as I can make quick cc.
    Where do you think the price will steady? And when will you sell the one you made if it's not going to the museum:p
     
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  13. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    im now buying all cuckoos up to 180cc. with wooly snout selling on average for 20k cc still that makes cuckoos the best bargain for me. wish i had the powerfeed:cry::cry:
    there has to be 100's millions of cuckoos in barns all over the place. with so many fsq requiring cuckoos, makes no sense that they are not selling for a lot more. one day i think i will kick myself in the rear for not buying all cuckoos under 500cc.
     
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  14. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    Hi feelfree2win, When most farmers do Cuckoo Breeding most of them prefer to do it during BBD. As we get Many Cuckoos Back, which keeps the Prices of Cuckoos Down. But to Make Moustaches needs 8 Cuckoos which helps push up prices of Cuckoos. Since The Prices of Cuckoos are much cheaper to buy than any other animal in the markets. It is not worth Growing Cuckoos at the moment. But Cuckoo Feeds do sell well as they are needed to make Moustaches, which currently sells for good CC in the Markets plus they can be grown under 7 hours or less too.

    Some of Us have donated many of them to level up animal Trophy, some of us used loads of them to make moustaches. But get many cuckoos back from Breeding during BBD. I have thousands of them in my barn I simply hold onto them for Good CC in near Future as i still can buy many of them for under 200 CC

    It is a Bargain to Buy and sell Breeding Cuckoos for Profits But not a Bargain when you have to drain your Barn of Two Power Feeds which you mostly gain a Woolly Snout Most of the time. As good skips is so random !!! We do have window to buy cuckoos under 500 CC some markets have a slow up take on Prices than other markets all based on circulation of Cuckoos in the Markets.

    The Baby Turkeys and Baby Goats have brought down prices of Breeding Turkeys and Goats i mostly snapped up cheap breeding Turkeys so that i am step nearer to complete Turkey Breeding as Cheap as i can or using little Power Feeds as I can !!!

    I have Splurge Over 3 Million Mostly on Breeding Animals Completing Breeding Quests is most costly thing to do :p
     
  15. bygo_cris

    bygo_cris Count Count

    I know. That is why I didn't sell. But I hope someday the price will increase. And I produce them and make moustache which are expensive in my market :inlove:. And I like to produce everything from corps to animals, feeds, trees. But sometimes I want to buy things and then spend all my money :wuerg: and have to make money again :cry: Now I have 699,032 CC :oops:
    Now in market the cuckoo price is 130.37 and moustach is 10,000.00 ^_^
     
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  16. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Puppies you know me too well. Just name the market or the farm and whatever your heart desires.
    I might hold on to that one for the museum. But the other 1,309,000 can go. I mention the other two animals good for the animal trophy earlier. Once the price of cuckoos exceed about one and one half times the exchange of the cuckoo (154 is the exchange of the cuckoo) then buyers for the animal trophy quest begin to search for other options. We begin to loose that art of the cuckoo market.

    The feed price is so high that farmers will not produce them now. So between about 225 and 900 (the current price of feed) the market price begins to depend solely on the breeding quest workers. And that with no other demand created will make further price movement slow. How slow? Your guess is as god as mine as I do not know what is in other barns.

    I put two offers of 1000 at 219 on the market to test demand. If they sell I will try a lot of 9,999. Hereeeeeeeeeeee fishy fishy xD.

    Want um all? I'll take 279 for them each tomorrow including the one I produced. If I have to wait a while then the price must go up for the increase in risk I am taking.

    I am making ccs with lettuce and hay. Both are steady and I have been gathering oats for months. Hay is over a million and hay over two million and oats about 1.6 million. Slow acquisition and the opportunities open. Potatoes are still selling well. But with nearly 700,000 left, I'm moving on to something else.

    Events have ripple effects in the market and some last longer than others. This farm is dumping the turkey feed and gathering the cheap cow feed. The day will arrive.

    Notice that the weekend players only are entering into the game for the weekend. If one knows their market then one will be able to see their needs as well as what they are producing and holding.

    Anyone have any ideas of the future of parrot feathers?

    To keep those under level 77 from competing in the TOP 1000 race (if tree fruit is to be used) I will keep the price of all tree fruit over 35% market to exchange. At level 76 the farmer cannot see maple sap and therefore will waste ccs in acquisition.

    I have another farm which is level 75 and it is having difficulty in tree fruit acquisition at reasonable prices. I'll check it.

    --edit--

    When checking the farm I could not acquire tree fruit at a reasonable price. One thing I am doing which WILL drive up the price if more continue: I began acquiring plums with the intent of donating!!!! This is an action which will result in inflation as more do it at lower levels.

    And even worse, I began acquiring lemons with the same purpose.
     
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  17. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    with current prices for crop circles and angel trumpets on my market cuckoo feed will cost 550cc to mill. i cant see people milling cuckoo feed to loose money. feed selling at 800cc-the juice=720cc-550cc=170cc profit. is 170cc profit for a feed too much? other feeds give you better profits.
    cuckoos have hit 300cc before. with prices usually between 225-250 now. cut the feed price in half, you still have 225cc feed. i dont see anyone raising cuckoos for years unless cuckoos hit 500cc. barns will empty of cuckoos sooner than later.
    i believe there are 6 fsq that all require cuckoos. is there any other animal that has such a demand?

    is my market that out of whack? that i see this scenario. or am i just missing something?
     
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  18. puppiesnponies

    puppiesnponies Living Forum Legend

    feelfree- the reason that cuckoos are out of balance in the market and FSQ is because there were 4 breeding events that are now permanent FSQs. During those breeding events, base cuckoos 'dropped' when you harvested animal pens just like sugar, salt, tools do when you harvest. Over the 4 breeding events, players could accumulate thousands of extra cuckoos. It was not until they became a permanent feature of the game that players could use them for the trophy so they just sat in the barn. Now with the introduction of cuckoo pens and the release of the breeding events as permanent quests, the market is flooded with 'free' cuckoos that players had. For example, I used more than 40k of them to finish my animal trophy and still have more than 20k in the barn. I believe the large number of 'free' cuckoos from those breeding events is why BP opted to make the moustache salons need 8 cuckoos. That is the highest amount of animals needed for a workshop. I think it will be a while before they are balanced in the market.
     
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  19. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    hi pnp, still too many cuckoos in barns. 3 months ago cuckoos were selling 50-100cc. i just think we will see cuckoos @ 400-500cc in another 2-3 months and believe that even at those prices it will be a good buy. as long as we have a good influx of new players to keep the markets healthy.

    i cant believe ive resorted to milling chicken and rabbit feed!! prices have now doubled. your hand wouldnt be in this broke? trying to cash in on all those chickens youve been hoarding.
     
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  20. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    The two offers of 1000 @ 219 went a while ago. Now the market is back up to nearly 300. I did buy a few up to 176.

    The four crops we are introduced to first are performing well also.

    Anyone watching eggs? At 128 here but over 600 offers on the market.
     
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