FHO customers - need some help :)

If someone has any of the following customers at level 5, I would be grateful if you could tell me what they are ordering today, and what they are offering to pay. I don't need all the orders, around 3 for each customer will do

• S(t)ealveater Stalone - level 5
• Brittany Spargus - level 5
• Justin Beaver - level 5
• The premium customer - level 5

 

Mir where do you find these customers? I thought they were in the farmhouse.

 

They have moved to the farmers society

 

Meghan Foxx - 10 chickens, 25 crapatalpa, 5 pain palettes - 4922 ep
5 guano, 100 raspberries - 12394 ep
Brittany - 10 hedgehogs, 10 wolf, 10 lemons, 10 peach - 10928ep
10 butterflies, 10 platypus, 25 samara 7541 ep

That's all I can say, sorry Mir as I've filled the others since they were quite good offers and I had lots of stock.

 

Thanks TC

But does Brittany only want 10 lemons and 10 peach? normally they require 25 of the fruits

 

All normal: all customers asking for the normal amounts at level5 of the kinds they request: 5 for products, 10 for animals, 25 for fruits, 100 for crops.

 

Thanks Aluntino

Then I have what I need for Meghan Foxx and Brittany Spargus.

Does anyone have any level 5 orders for Stealvester Stalone or Justin Beaver?

 

Sealvester Stalone level 2 -chameleons 4, chickens 4, cows 4, sheep 4 = 1604 EP
-chickens 4= 53 EP
Justin Beaver level 1 - guano 1, koi 1 = 744

 

Thank you bygo at the moment I need the level 5 info, but I might need the other levels at some point too

 

Welcome ^_^ If you want to know more just ask and if I have the level, I will tell you

 

Oh no, she def wanted 25 - I was just shocked at her wanting 10 platypuses!

 

Not easily satisfied, that's for sure

I want to check what payment the different customers offer. It seems both Brittany and Meghan offers an EP amount corresponding to 75% of the total exchange value of the things in the order. This depends on the level, in level 1 Brittany only offers 45%.

75% is actually very good, I'll start to fill the orders that require the cheap rare fruits

 

Like I said, Mir, all normal. The 2 customers you're asking for now are requesting, at lvl5, 10 animals (Stalone) and 5 products (Beaver).

 

Yes Aluntino, I know the amounts they request What I am interested in is the total EV of some of the orders and how much EP they give in return

 

Well, yes, you're asking for too much... LOL. Let me give you one example of one of the outstanding orders I left unfulfilled: Beaver's 5 koi fishes + 5 truffles --> 6203 EPs.

I don't pay attention to ExV for deciding which orders to fulfill. Instead, I use my Red Punch -for Baha's- and Puff Cake -for Farm's- general assessment parameters to evaluate them on the fly, along with available stock.

The latter parameter, Puff Cake's, translates into, roughly, 2 CCs per EP, which means that, for that particular order, the CCs amount to be assessed is 12406 CCs, practically equivalent to 1,5 Puff Cakes. I can get from my mkt what Beaver was requesting for (5*1,8K+5*4K) CCs = 29K CCs. This means this order is ruinous and my on the fly assessment tells me not to fulfill it.

However, I fulfill some of Beaver's orders even if they generally are ruinous, provided I have a high stock of what it's asking for and overall EP gain from that specific order is higher than 10K EPs.

Regarding Stalone's orders, for me, stock preservation considerations prevail and I generally fulfill only 1 order asking for 1 animal I have high stock of: they don't pay off enough. From time to time it means I drop to 4 orders instead of 5 but it doesn't matter to me.

I generally prefer to reserve my products/animals stocks for those orders from the Premium customer, that combine them with crops/fruit. They are way more rewarding and make much more sense.

 

I know, and I do the same thing too Sorry for confusing you, I will explain what I am up to

Most of the time I just make a quick estimate. But from time to time I find it useful to make more accurate calculations, especially if the market prices have changed a bit. I am setting up a spreadsheet to make the calculations for me.

To make it user friendly it should request as little info as possible about each order to make the calculations. As we have already discussed, the amount of animals, products, fruits and crops a customer requires is fixed, depending on the level. So it is not necessary to write that Vin Weasel wants 25 apples, 100 celery, 10 geese and 25 plums, it suffices to write apples, celery, geese and plums (I am assuming level 5 for all the customers).

Furthermore, the EP and CC amount Vin Weasel pays for this order can also be calculated from the items he requires, so that I don't have to open the order, check the CC and EP and type the amounts into the spreadsheet. The total exchange value of 25 apples, 100 celery, 10 geese and 25 plums is 4720. Vin Weasel will offer an EP amount corresponding to 52,5% of the total exchange value, and a CC amount corresponding to 15% of the total exchange value. In other words, for the order I mentioned, Vin Weasel offers:

• 4720*0,525 = 2478 EP and
• 4720*0,15 = 708 CC

Here is part of the spreadsheet:

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I only have to fill in the yellow cells, that I can do without even clicking on the order, no need to check the rewards, everything is calculated automatically. The EP (respectively CC) column is how much EP (respectively CC) the customer will give, the MP is the market price for the items, then the CC/EP column calculates how many country coins I would pay per EP filling this order. I then compare that to the price of buying a product like Puff cake (I also use 2 CC/EP as a reference). If the big number is positive, it's a yes, here we see it is a no. Therefore I left this order unfilled today.

I just need a few examples of orders from Sealvester Stalone and Justin Beaver to determine how much they pay, so that the spreadsheet will work for those customers too. In my farmers society they are both at level 1, that's why I need some help



And with regards to this comment

there is more to it than what I expressed. I was thinking that some of the rare fruit have a good market price/EV ratio, and with Brittany paying 75% of the EV, some of the orders should be lucrative. I'll have to look into it further though to be sure. I just made the comment in passing, as I realized that Brittany might not deserve to be completely ignored

 

Well, Mir, I've already given you an example for Beaver, here goes one for Stalone: 10 geese + 10 turkeys --> 1200 EPs. With one example of each, you should be able to calculate the ratios.

But I truly don't see the need (I'm sorry), because the 2 CCs/EP and the 4,4 CCs/B-EP is more than enough in my opinion. I wouldn't go through all that trouble. Stalone's orders never make sense: I just fulfill one single animal order from time to time. Beaver's sometimes do, depending on the combination of products, which ones are abundant, like eggs or honey. Brittany's, definitely, many times do (I only fulfill those orders that only ask for fruit or rather cheap animals -1- combined with fruit; also those including bats, because bats is a byproduct of breeding cheap albinos, the only bat kind I breed).

Anyway, my approach is completely different: what I really assess is how much I should pay for any thing a customer is asking for that I should buy to replace (that is, that I have low/very low stock of). Why only that? Because I take the orders as an opportunity soon to disappear: if I don't fulfill one, it'll be lost, pretty much as the empty seat on a plane that has left. So, I assess what's the cost of the weakest requested item/s that wouldn't make me lose it.

For example, while tilias were asked for by the normal fruit customer, sometimes I had to leave many fruit orders unfulfilled because of the high cost it implied to replace them: that single item made the order/s worthless. Then, tilias went for 400 CCs each in mkt. Hence, any order meant 10K CCs only for the tilias, equivalent to 5K EPs. If the order was not at least 6K EPs or more, I didn't fulfill it. The reason is I assess the cost of the rest of the fruit as 0 in practical terms (I have large stocks). No need to do any further calculations.

But when tilias were moved to Brittany, therefore in effect considered as "rare", things changed: I could remove 2 of the tilia trees from my land and mkt price dropped to 100 CCs or less. It sometimes happens that the same item that made those orders worthless make these worthy now.

 

But that is exactly what I am calculating in the end, nothing else. It is just a tool for when I want to make precise calculations rather than an estimate. So I am not really sure what you mean.

Sure it is a lot of work setting up the spreadsheet instead of doing the calculations by hand, but it is more interesting work Doing it by hand, looking up all the prices (don't have them in my head) is so boring. With the spreadsheet (provided the list of market prices is up to date) I can quickly check most of the orders.

I don't really have a large stock of anything, so I take the price of all the items into account. But I can see how your approach is beneficial when have a full barn

Thanks for the examples

 

puff cake for 8000cc, very nice, lucky to find them for 10500-11000 here. bep is same here.