Easter Eggstravaganza

You bet I paid attention to all that comparison. And for all to view again, with previous not so well-founded drop discussion there is a key flaw which is necessary in comparison: T - I - M - E .

Drops may of course be tweeked in favor of one class or another from time to time. This is very necessary to keep folks from figuring out exactly the drop algorithm. (For the most part even that is academic. No one needs this in order to complete these simple events given their farms have a few basics.)

Trees are cited above. The example given goes back to the T - I - M - E . One with apple trees harvesting on time while making their fields constantly productive can easily complete this event as well as all past grow events, easily.

T - I - M - E management whether with trees or crops or animal pens. So far during this even I have grown: lettuce, wheat, carrots, oats, lilac, crop circles, canola, raspberry, and event junks. Tree fruit produced: apples, walnuts, scented, honey, angel's trumprt ...... on BAHA and rain forest, probably over 10 different types from banana to Moringa. Animals: chickens, ducks, turkey, cuckoo, and ostrich. Production pens: ostrich egg, feathers, and palletes.

And just to play around a little more, I will put out a field of 48 hour production pens just so I won't have to harvest. And expect the drops. I can estimate them between -1 to +1 per field of whatever I want to grow. hahahaha

Given what I know about the T - I - M - E relationship to drops as well as how to modify that T - I - M - E , it will not matter if I only get one drop per field of junks.

I agree with Aluntino regarding my personal desire not to tear up my farm prior to events, but I have before. Now, I slowly tear it up and slowly rebuild it and finish events around my RL.

My drop talley is about 82 now. No hurry hurry.

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From 12 regular duck pens with water I received 3 drops. No howie donuts, only trophies maxed.
(Time is no longer a concern with the strong relationship to drops. But what I also concluded is that the dispersion of drops is based upon a cumulative total with regard to time. And for this reason one may see a single drop appear and then a drop one right after another or as above 3 out of 12 or even an entire field of event junks yield not a single drop and the next field yield three.) Total drops is 85 now. ...... crying ,,,,, hahaha less than 200 event junks total.

Good luck to all.

Bad for the farm: Just received a schedule change in RL tomorrow that will make portions of the farm not productive. RL will rule. Any extended period of unproductivity on any farm during an event can lead to a longer period of working an event. We all have these unexpected periods. T - I - M - E

 

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Regarding the event drops, there was an official announcement in Polish Forum on 23.03.2016. The rough translation is as below,

" Farmers Welcome ! Repeatedly you are asking about whether and what affects to receive items during harvest . The most common question refers to the so-called Event Drops . The principle of the thing: the longer the time the primary production farms / plants , plant growth / tree , the greater is the chance to get a " Event Drop." It does not matter whether you are using a supergrow, Powerfeed, fertilizer or other bonuses affecting the shortening of the time , because it does not affect to receive items during harvest."

You can read more about it Here - Click to see the original

I know all these have been said earlier. But still there is no harm in repeating and it gives credit to our conclusions and helps new players.

Please Note. I would have stopped with the smiley but as there was no strategy in it my post would have been deleted.

 

One-Two, thank you very much. I'll go see bunny_broke's farm.

You are terrific.

 

Looks like we need 50 shears a day to reach the target ...if my maths are correct???
And IF they are ...then 50 isn't going to be easy with the amount we have been getting

Thank you 12ss12 at least we get a rough idea of what to plant and use now

A good percentage of my trees that are always kept out are good ep givers...and haven't had that many drops ...SO am thinking and hoping it is the production pens that are giving the drops ... have some pens out so have got to wait for those to finish to change over

Production pens have made the drops better *** noted for other events***
And hopefully now will be able to plan my farm better to get better drops at the start of events.. because at the moment it is all over the place and a big old muddle LOL ... BUT its working and am getting there...have finished the inner squares and oblongs...(don't understand the no items required squares)
Thank you Guys

Now I need 3980 flowers ....64 shears and sings... a partridge in a pear tree BUT I can't find the partridge in a pear tree ...so tizz not needed for this event...Hmmm do we even have a partridge

Do we still have that function PNP ...where we see the drops rain down on the fields ?... I liked that

Happy Easter Everyone and may all your drops be good ones

 

harvested a field of roses. I was certain that I saw shears fly around but then when the side bar/column shows the harvest drops for that field, none were listed. We just have to keep trying. I am ahead of the daily average so even though the drops are slow, they are actually keeping pace with my lilies. I did not tear the farm completely apart so it is fine with me as both crops and drops are close to being ready when I need them. (maybe a harvest or 2 apart). Many players, especially with CAC, get crops done first and then wait for drops. I don't think this will be any different. Enjoy the beautiful lilies, move those trophies, and get ready for Gift and Trade.

 

One-Two, I just gotta write this to clarify:
The time savers, whatever they happen to be, do not in themselves increase drops.

BUT, the saving of the time allows for production of more and therefore more drops in the same period of time as the original crop if no time saver has been used.

 

guara, I would suggest never donating your apples to the crop trophy. Same goes for bananas and oranges. The reason being, virtually every event seems to require apples, not to mention many animal feeds that need them. Personal experience has been that I could never grow the amount of apples I need by myself and keep up with requirements. I know you desire to produce everything yourself, and that's very admirable. You might consider loading up on apple trees and filling a dedicated field with them between events to stock up, then, at least for a while.

Can someone let me know what the fuss over CRs is? I've seen it mentioned a few times, but don't know what's going on, obviously I missed something? And are they getting rid of the event drops from magic trees? (I know this event doesn't give them, but is it going to be that way permanently?)

 

Definition of Time Savers. It really about how you Define it. I have Tactical Term Known as Reap Rate. The Idea of Reap rate concept is quiet simply really, is what in our game we can use to Produce Crops, Animals, Fruits and Production Pens and Jumbo Trees....SOONER !!!

The Reap Rate is my Measurement, How Much Sooner we are able to Reap Crops,Animals.Products,Fruits and Jumbo Trees sooner. The Tactic is Ideal to Increase Drops that are needed during Events. This is only one half of Tactic to Boost Drop Rate that you would normally get per Harvest during farming during an Event. There is two drawbacks that can Dampens your Drop Rate....First ) Leaving your Farm Idle when it is due for Harvesting !!, Secondly) Refraining from the use of 1 x 1 Fields, using Water, Manure, Super Grow. Power Feeds, Suzy Super Mulch, Buffs, Tiki Timer, Cloud Rows, Runes and Refinements.

Time Savers cant be Helped at All when we need to Grow the Longest Crops,Animal Pens,Production and Trees with Have in order to Maximise to be able to get best possible Drops of Event Items during Events. Such as Sawmills Takes 48 Hours to Produce Initially, Jumbo Trees takes 36 Hours to Produce Initially, Carnations takes 18 Hours 54 Minutes initially !!. These would not make a Huge difference in Drops without the use of Animal or Crop Trophies or LL Rune, which is a contributing factor to get better Drops when your farms are ready for harvesting

The most Influencing Tactic to get best possible Drops of Event items is to avoid or prevent Ill or Poor Preparing of your Farm Prior to Event Starting. Initially i got 91 Pruning Shears on First Harvest. This is can be achieved if time constraints it not a problem with your Farming Style. As I know many of you not prepare to rip up farms or use part of your Farm that is except from Growing Event Crops during Events. Sometime this can actually go in our Favour, sometime it doesn't !! It all Depends How or what is needed to Acquire Drops Via Event FAQ !!

The reap rate has all kinds of Drops out of Event Drops, as it all boils down to what your are reaping as such a certain crop for example.... I did some Carrot Farming using Refinements and Water able to reap Carrots every 8 minutes. I used 1 x 1 on Glade, Main Farm and Green Meadow. Some time i got Two Pruning Shears, sometime just 1 other times got NONE. But The Drop Reap Rate is Better than Harvesting Easter Lilys as i currently only able to get on Average 10 Pruning Shears harvesting all five Fields of Easter Lilys The Carrots Tactic gives me better drops...Plus it is making me rich at same time selling carrots over 30 CC each

 

I posted somewhere else that I noticed that you get more shear drops for your animal pens/stables...so may want to increase the time on those...


It has started all ready, the changes, in how many years has a magic tree not dropped the event product....and why????

 

With the low drop number required, it's not a surprise that the magic trees aren't giving drops. Best to wait and see if it continues with the next event requiring drops.

But having drops come from magic trees certainly makes a difference to building the drops early on.

 

For anyone who has been playing for less than 2 years, magic trees don't matter. We don't have any and we can't get any.

 

what animal pens and workshops are giving thhe most drops?

 

Hmmm, come to think of it, 8 drops off my animal-and-trees-only field. 19 drops total first harvest of the morning, pretty nice.

I donate anything I can to the trophy. I got the apples this morning. Selling chickens has appeared to be a bigger issue than apples. (Well, selling chickens and funding the egg farms, anyhow.)

 

Thank you Aluntino, farmer_broke & Mooboy for all the statistics & analysation.
My small brain was somewhat soft today and I couldn't quite understand your posts. But after re-reading it again I comprehended it. Even if i have not understood some or all of your points, please excuse me. My brain isn't in good working condition right now and also for few days from now. Have to do lot of written translations this week end.

My observation is that the longer the time period of the item to be ready for harvest, the more are chances of getting drops. For instance ostrich egg workshop. The basic ostrich egg workshop has a higher time for production. So in whatever way you harvest, either as basic workshop or as yellow or orange or red or pink workshop you get a higher chance of drop. It doesn't depend upon the time for harvest of yellow/orange/red/pink. The drop chance is higher in ostrich egg workshop than in chicken egg workshop or goat diary (with or without their upgrades).

provided, it is announced that we get drops from workshops

Thanks for your observations

Mooboy thanks for sharing the details about your strategy. Seems I have been doing the same as you. I have long ago stopped planting roses and carnations. I place neon stables, red & orange workshops and pens of higher level ( cookware forge, koi pond, hydrant, ostrich egg, guano production pen etc). I too place jumbo animal stalls & trees. But in different farms. Next time I will try placing in the same fields, another fields full of workshops and another fields full of trees and see what drop rate I get. But the main draw back is that if its announced there will be no drops from workshops, down we go. I am ready to face that too.

& also for the remainder about Carrot &CCs. Broke created a cool-carrot-broke. But I forgot it. Else I would have indulged in Carrot marketing. Now off to it. Even 1 drop is great many for this event.

Above all my most important general observation is
" Try placing long time pens/workshops/trees with their upgrades to reduce time. If they give you good drops, ok. Else once again do another round of harvest for more drops. That's not sufficient ? Do another round too. You will get it. What if you don't get and not able to finish. Don't fret. Its the headache of the game developers to bang their head & make changes in the future events. We have nothing to do.

Whooooo....hit....whaaaaaaaaaaat ..... ...... .... Isn't the nail been created for hitting on its head ? orrrrrrrrrrrr being plucked out from the wall...

Spoiler: ......

 

No, that's not quite right. The drop rate depends on the base time of the stable/workshop/tree/crop. Applying water or some other buff that reduce time, reduce the time until you can harvest, but doesn't change the base time.

However placing an upgrade on your ostrich egg farm changes the base time! So the drop rate should be highest for the basic ostrich egg farm and the pink upgrade, then in decreasing order: yellow - orange - red.

It is the same principle for trees with upgrades too. So at the beginning of the event regular trees would give a more drops than XL trees which in turn would give more drops than XXL trees. But during the event XXL trees harvested twice a day give more drops than regular trees harvested once a day (4 hours idle time per day). Worst is XL trees harvested once a day (6 hours idle time per day). With auto tree harvest the drop rate should be the same for all of them, since there is no idle time.

Hope you feel better soon

 

Thank you Mir, for the explanation. Then will it be best to place basic pens, pink, neon & trees rather than the yellow, orange, red & XXls before the event for maximizing the drops ?

About yellow, red & orange ? I do not understand. Will yellow give more drop or red ? Seems I am some what confused. A good night's rest might make me more observant tomorrow, I suppose. Thank you for the concern.

 

No problem

Workshops: pink = basic > yellow > orange > red
Stables: neon > pink > orange > red > basic > yellow

But there are exceptions, so the easiest thing is just to check the times in your inventory when you want to place them. Use the search function, then you can see them all at a glance and it is easy to compare the times.

For event start regular trees are better than XXLs.

 

I hope everyone is doing well.
At 4 o' clock est. I will be finished with all junk crops.
Now I need to focus on getting the rest of my drops.
What do you think I should put out? Trees? stables? Long term crops?
Thanks in advance for any and all advice

 

Doing nothing is a strategy. Often ineffective...

Me too. Tired of spending money on this game that I could be spending on RL. (Besides I've been rather bored with this game for the past couple of years. Only kept playing because I was too sick to do much else.)

BP giveth... BP taketh away... Nothing new to that strategy. I always have plenty of drops left over, RL permitting, so it doesn't really effect how I play the game. Might take an extra harvest... No big deal.

Eureka! I think you just hit on the missing part of the Drop Rate Algorithm! I think I could almost write it now. And I agree with you.

Yep! Anyone confused about drop rate should re-read that post as many times as it takes to understand it.

Yep! That's what I've been saying for the past five years and describe here:
https://board-en.farmerama.com/index.php?threads/general-event-strategies.10970/

That's what I said about Time Compression in the thread for the previous event.

Use crops/pens/trees with the longest BASE time to prepare for an event with drops. Esp events with unlimited gifts like the Monkey Queen. Harvest them AFTER you are certain the event has started. Then plant/harvest WHATEVER FITS YOUR SCHEDULE. Use as many TIME REDUCING buffs as one has, if worried about drops.
If one is worried about drops the worst thing they can do is leave a field empty/unharvested.

After five years of beating the Time Management / Time Compression drum... It's good to see others are finally starting to understand what I've been saying.
With Poppy's comment I feel I've found the missing part of the Drop Rate Algorithm equation and... I am now see no challenges left in the game. The Market is not a challenge. It is simply sit at a desk and buy... sell... buy... sell. BORING! Unless, of course, it's REAL MONEY!

 

One thing I have notice is that the more workshops you have of one type the better drops you get, being one of not many of one type and or grade, I wind up with a mix on one field. That being said, does anyone know if it is better to harvest one at a time as they finish or to wait for the longest to finish and grab the field all at once? and is there a difference in the EP/drop rate doing either?