Have you ever tried to sell out and re-start from scratch?

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  1. habalala

    habalala Emperor of the Forum

    Just wondering if anyone else considered doing so. I know I am ..

    I mean not starting a new (baby) farm but to sell off everything gathered, earning millions of CC and once the sell out is done to rebuild stock again. And not just a few items .. everything!

    No worries here about long term quests or the harvest hoedown event, some futures of this game are just not worth chasing. Yet.

    Curious about your thoughts and if you've done so in the past do share your expierence. Any input is welcome!
     
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  2. 007Farming

    007Farming Forum General

    Things that make you say hmmmmm......I have thought about it numerous times lately....but I want to accomplish a few things first. I regularly sell everything to accomplish goals and then am forced to restock as fast as possible:p
    Great question habalala:D
     
  3. habalala

    habalala Emperor of the Forum

    Thanks 007. Right now I know I'm not the only one :D

    I hear you, but this being a game which needs patience to get anywhere, what's the deal? ;)

    Where does the rush to restock asap come from? Events ahead? Scared to miss an oppertunity to earn even more CC? Lack of funds to buy the items needed? .. questions questions .. :)
     
  4. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    I would never do that. It's my worst (farmerama)nightmare to lose everything I have tried so hard to get.
    For me it's scary but it's interesting how you see it;)
     
  5. 007Farming

    007Farming Forum General

    I like to finish things I start, and as we all know....that takes a lot of time for some quests....or real $$$$$$ if one is willing to buy their way through the game;)

    Their isn't any "rush" for me to restock.....only to restock for the next goal. When I first started playing I was filled with the "rush" of doing...I wanted to do EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW....since that I have been playing for a while....the rush is gone...just focus.

    The "Greats" say that success is determined by how much one is willing to lose in order to attain a higher goal/accomplishment:)
     
  6. farmlily3

    farmlily3 Forum Freak

    8) GREAT question, habalala!!
    I love my farm, as I can make it whatever I want, buuuut......how interesting would it be to take everything you have learned, and sell off all your inventory that you don't want, all your stock that you don't want....and start all over again with only what you do want! Plus all those CC's from the sell-off!! One would need a looong G&T also, to give/trade/sell the stables, good but unused giver items, etc....
    Oh dear, oh dear - how tempting is that!!:music::music: Just like a good 'house-cleaning'!

    'Hmmmmmmm'(Yep! It made me go 'hmmmmm', 007Farming!! LOL!).....Perhaps we should ask farmer Broke's opinion, as he is the resident expert on new-farm making,etc.....
     
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  7. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    I agree farmlily3 and have thought of habalala's question and I really do not want to face the temptation that habalala has set me up for with that question and I hope I have the self-discipline not to do it now ... well not just yet .... well I don't know if ever.

    There are so many very very wonderful people who have gone from the forum and some who are still here who have been very influential in how this farm has developed. Each unknowingly gave to this farm in their own special way and perhaps without even knowing it.

    I thought of liquidating this entire farm in order to get the ccs together in order to make an attempt to place the farm in the TOP 10 CC Holders in this game. I do pay attention to and give respect to the ideas of others. So in a sense, I, the individual , might well be looked at like a puppet and that is okay because the focus is the farm and not me the individual. So I have looked at liquidation of the entire farm and what I would ideally love to have is:
    • A chairperson
    • A knowledgeable crop expert
    • An animal expert (which would include normal, rare, and BAHA animals)
    • An animal feed consultant
    • A breeding animal expert
    • A tree fruit sales director
    • A product specialist
    • A crafting trade person
    • An individual who could care less
    Sure going from -0-ccs to 800,000,000 is just a couple of weeks is not problem. But that is not nearly enough. Many items move much faster than others and the revenue from the sale is greater at different times. For instance, the farm is almost finished with frog sales from items held in the barn and frog breeding has not even been announced but I'll take the 750% profits now and move on and play someone elses frogs like lettuce later.

    There are other holdings though. Liquidating nearly 31,500 cats today will make the farm very little if anything without effort. If selling in a forced liquidation mode, the sales will be only to minimize losses with the idea of selling high enough to enter the competition. How will I dump 49k peacocks or 30k anaconda or 38k bat feed or 140k monkey feed or 1.5M apples or 200k eggs ..............how how how how how and how long will it take in order to maximize revenues. Maybe this kinda gives a picture.

    I now feel I must have a legitimate reason to liquidate the farm other than just to do it and rebuild it. (And there are many reason not to liquidate a farm with the intent to rebuild it from scratch.) Sure list everything for .10 and everything will be gone in about two weeks. This farm is strong and well positioned but the farm is definitely not strong enough to reach the TOP 10 cc holders in this game selling everything for 10.

    Someone take their farm to a higher level because the EN Forum Family might just be nearly ready to compete. This farm may be able to make it but forcefully liquidating without a plan just might be the weakness that would also keep the farm from remaining there for any length of time. Who cares anyway?

    No way am I afraid. But I do have a RL which comes first. Any of the present competitors begin making sizable mistakes and they are caught! (Easy, the farm can generate a billion by selling all animals including breeding stock for an average price of 500 ccs each. But a billion is still not enough.)

    And nice people such as DBAYES (DB to lots of us) sent the farm a butterfly pen during its first G&T when the farm had absolutely nothing. Do you think I would want to let DB down? OH NO! No way. And DB is only the start. So many nice people!

    Yes, I began taking the farm down that path once and got distracted by something else quickly thank goodness and stopped and have not looked back.

    Path blazing is enjoyable to me. I just don't find satisfaction in blazing a path in the wrong direction and at this time I just don't feel the farm is prepared enough to undertake such an adventure with a tad bit of style and class successfully. But others might see otherwise. The farm remains in a growth mode at this time.

    hahahaha And the farm wife (tlcmom) just might say dump the whole thing and we'll move to another farm. And we'll start a new farm and live happily ever after.
     
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  8. farmlily3

    farmlily3 Forum Freak

    8) Wow, farmer_broke!! Thank you for the fascinating break down of your farm...which seems entirely too big to even liquidate!!o_O

    What I found interesting about habalala's question were the possibilities it opened for a more modified approach - one of selling off all the extraneous accumulation of 'stuff' that we don't use or want, and rebuilding the farm exactly the way we'd like with just what we want on it, and other possibilities.
    Tempting question indeed......

    But don't you do this already, Broke, with some of your baby farms?
     
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  9. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    And I was wondering farmer broke if you will mention your farm wife! Hopefully you did it on the end because I wouldn't feel your post as complete:p Appart from joke I believe you made clear what you wanted to say and it makes sense. I see you need a chairperson what does he do?
     
  10. farmingfreebird

    farmingfreebird Exceptional Talent

    I sold out my entire crops barn, both baha and normal, including animals etc..... about two years back, and I made about 28million CC. I was SO happy! I had never had more than half a million up to that point!

    Now, i have standard about 35 million, or more, and I don't feel the need to sell my entire everything again!
     
  11. Cassie101

    Cassie101 Emperor of the Forum

    Never! I have worked hard to get my farm to where it is and still enjoy the quests etc.
     
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  12. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    "farmlily3" yes it seems too big but liquidating it can be done. As with any liquidation though, the faster one must do it then the less revenue one is likely to receive. I write very very very little down regarding the farm. Any farm will have more profits hidden in one area than in another and even more in one item in any given area that others. Any one item can be viewed by itself and if acquired over time then the profits a given quantity may be different. If selling everything off then the importance of maximizing ones revenues may be important to one and not to another.

    I helped 4 -5 neighborhood kids with math and each had their own farm. A competition emerged centered around who had the largest farm. So to keep the math exercise going among them and keep matters civil I suggested they take 10 days and sell off their farms in the market and whoever had the most ccs had the most. Well they did it and there was a winner. None of them chose to rebuild their farm but to go on to the real stock market. They have returned to the farm a couple of times but done nothing significant with them. Watching them destroy their farms was indeed fascinating. This is a little unlike what habalala indicates though which is to rebuild.

    Ariel, your statements do fit into this farm's picture quite well. A while ago, the farm came into a few hundred million that I really didn't know what to do with. So I asked the farm wife (tlcmom) what she thought the farm should do with it. (All she worries about is her playing in the mud anyway.....hahaha) She gave me an answer and without any thought otherwise I am doing exactly what she suggested like a good farm husband. (I don't even believe it.)

    Farmlily, any farm I work is selling off what it does not need and some faster than others. As a baby farm begins to turnover items and turnover items and turnover item then the farm gets larger if it has some discipline with regard to giving items away (such as events or fsq or even gifts to neighbors). Remember the mud_pie_man farm (who was fortunate to have Mentor Brookeham)? That farm turned and turned and turned itself right into the upper levels of the TOP 1000. So sell off, produce, rebuild, buy, sell, grow, sell off ....... But never did it totally liquidate or donate all. But I tore the farm up pretty good pushing it to its heights. That is about as close getting rid of everything as a farm can get but still not quit like what habalala has suggested because there was no large pool of revenue to use in rebuilding. The farm does exist today and it has not recovered.

    Ariel, I view a chairperson as very very important. The chairperson would make the last call in a disagreement and the matter is solved, however it turn out, period. Please please chairperson keep us on track. And with that hope, I must use judgement in executing whatever the plan may indeed be.

    Farmingfreebird sold off and received a bank to work with. Some will never know that good feeling of comfort. I like that too. Aluntino referred to maintaining what was termed a wealth floor and Farmingfreebird did what was felt needed to get one. Use it to grow or events or meet personal goals. I can picture the rebuilding taking place and the ease with which it can be accomplished because one has something to work with.
     
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  13. habalala

    habalala Emperor of the Forum

    Thanks everyone for the great input! Didn't know what to expect.

    So far I got:
    - focus
    - like a good house-cleaning
    - purpose
    - can it be done in a reasonable time frame

    The question came to my mind because my farm has reached the miminum stock and CCs requirements needed to continue to play this game without much struggle. I know continuing building/hoarding stock will get me triple the amount I have now within weeks. By then it'll become a burden to sell off. So, if I do it, best to do it soon. Or not.
    Selling all stock just seems a tempting and FUN thing to do .. rebuilding stock afterwards a challenge on its own.

    Thanks to your posts I can't make up my mind yet :)
     
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  14. dutchboy

    dutchboy Forum Great Master

    reading all of the above then thinking well it is a challenge
    a rather big one and if you do it can you play and finish events ?
    if i see whats in my barn i wonder how long will it take to even sell everything ?
    if have collected quit a bit i think
    main farm
    crops 5000 up to 25.000
    trees fruits 2000 up to 15.000
    animals 84 up to 2.000
    products 100 up to 700
    animal feed 250 up to 1250
    and then you have the breeding animals

    on baha i have more crops up to 28000
    animals up to 2350
    tree fruit up to 21500

    and then there some things you cant sell
    moonlight crops
    catogorie all wich collects big buildings supply,s

    so there are a coupple of things to think about
     
  15. habalala

    habalala Emperor of the Forum

    Okay, a few more considerations (at random thoughts that popped up)

    * I can sell almost every tradeable item in my barn with the listing of 2 lots. Won't happen but I could.
    * About 90% of the crops, animal feed, animal breeds and trade products stocked up are homegrown.
    * About 50% of the treefruit and animals stocked up are self produced.
    * There's enough CC at hand to buy enough of any needed item for any event ahead.
    * Almost all FSQ quests are finished. The very few left I consider as too expensive given the rewards.
    * Selling out and rebuild will most likely result in playing the market and instantly buying the items I want or need, mostly neglecting whatever the purpose of having farmland to grow stuffies was meant for. Drat! .. Event crops!
    * Not selling out will most likely result in a barn with a ton of never used and never looked after items.
    * I am a tidy person, whatever I didn't use or looked after for a few months doesn't seem to be that important and can be missed (exclude friendship here!)
    * When I started this game, it soon became clear that to gain more of every item available was necessary to make any progress. A sell out doesn't match that.
    * I'm about to reach lvl 90 and will become a long term player.
    * Sell out seems overseeable and doable within a few weeks.
    * Not to buy from the regular shop and to skip any bargain that pops up will be tough.

    Hum hum hum.

    I keep smiling! :)
     
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  16. meba091

    meba091 Forum Veteran

    habalala if your prices are right I am sure it can be done and very fast too :p You just list it all in big lots and poof they are gone!8)

    I have not even considered a thing like that...:wuerg: I have worked so hard and playing the market for a long time to get all I have now and I feel I am finally getting to where I like to be. So doing a thing like that would for me be crazy..... but I am sure it would be a lot of fun! Really!
     
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  17. habalala

    habalala Emperor of the Forum

    I hear you Meba (and Broke and many other fellow players) on the hard work to get anywhere in this game once the personal goal of the game narrows down to participating successfully in HH or a Top 10 listing as there's not much else left to aim for. I've always considered those as being lvl 100+ futures of the game. I'm fine with that, I'm nowhere near so can't be bothered. Yet. :)
    I also hear all of you when it comes down to plain entertainment, fun, trial and failure. Bet you noticed this whole thread is about me trying to figure out my way to do it. HA!
     
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  18. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    Habalala since you are really considate of selling off you goods you should tell us on which market your are:music::)
     
  19. meba091

    meba091 Forum Veteran

    hahahahaha Arielh. He is on mine! xDxDxD So why don't you all give me a little help here! :p
     
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  20. habalala

    habalala Emperor of the Forum

    *giggle* *chuckle* *grin*

    As if my humble stock will put a dent in meba's funds or add up a lot in her stock .. guess not!

    Thanks for the late night smile on my face my dear fellow players!
     
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