Have you ever tried to sell out and re-start from scratch?

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  1. BlackCaviar

    BlackCaviar Forum Overlooker

    Every little bit helps, right meba? ;)xD
     
  2. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    Hi Habalala

    I am Veteran Farmer who is into 6th Year Playing This Game. Since I am FOCD Farmer. It goes Against My Principles to Sell Up Every Thing and Restart your Farm All Over.

    Well as you know Broke as Been Around for long time too as we are Strategies Buddies, wonder who else like to be Strategies Buddies Club Member.....!!!

    What Broke have Learned that we have 30 or so Different Markets. Firstly it all depends your Farm is in good Market or not. Some Markets are real eye opener to make huge CC. Some Markets sell things so Well. Therefore it depends if you are in good Market or Not.

    Being an FOCD Farmer or any Farmer Who has worked so hard to build up stock in your Barn. As it takes time to work out what sells well and What does not Sell Well. For Example Certain Crops Constantly Sells Well, Partly some farmer not have time to Grow Short Timed Crops so they buy these from the Markets. The other Reason some of these Crops are Needed for Milling Animal Feeds or Craft Artisan Crafts.

    As I am Crop Farmer I make most Money/CC From Crops Selling in the Markets. Either During Events or Outside Events. But Bahamarama Crops do not sell so Well Reason therefore Less Protential to Make good CC !!

    Selling Animals really depends if you buy from Markets and resell for later for profits. The downside to Animal Pens they need Animal Feeds to Grow Animals. But be aware some Animal Feeds sells for more than Price of Animals in the Market. So it better off Milling Animal Feeds sell Animal Feeds in the Markets with the Proceeds of this you can Buy up Animals in the Markets....Where there is no need to Put out any Animal Pens or Consume Animal Feeds.

    The only way to grow Animals Effectively if you have Neon, Pink or Red Animal Stables which consume the same amount of Animal Feeds But Generate One the one Animal at a Time !! The Best ones to have are the Breeding Animals as All Breeding Animals Sells well during Breeding Events and Baby Boom.

    I do both Growing Stuff to Sell or Buy from the Markets to Make CC. I very Content and Comfortable to have very health Stock of Everything. As you know some of it is not in much demands but from time to time they suddenly in demand. So I can Gain Advantage of this when it happens. But when you Clear out your farm you may miss out making loads more CC than you got what you have just Sold to the Markets. I have Massive Purchasing Powers like Broke as more or less like Broke they is concept of Short Term. Medium Term or Long Term investments on anything in the Markets !!

    When you eventually get to Point to a Comfortable Level or able to complete Events with Ease or Very Health Barn. I Study The Markets to work out Where the Supply and Demands in the Markets. I Mainly Specialise in Crops as i have two Things in my Favour that is Crop Refinements and Buffs. Now we have Alchemist Products that reduce crops times even more.

    Coloured Breeding Animals....This is where you have to be very Careful as it is far more risky But more importantly the timing of Selling Breeding Animals, related to Breeding Event or Baby Boom. This Area has the Highest Risk of loss of Market Admin Fee at 10% of what you are selling. You need to be pretty dam sure that it get sold within 7 Days !!

    Since i have almost 500,000,000 CC to Play with, Not to Mention couple Billions worth of Barn Stock too I have the Luxury to Buy anything in the Markets without the Need to sell anything !!! I normal do get Back CC when i am in Spending Spree or even Gain more CC than i started with. Or my Billionaire Barn is a Step near to being Trillionaire :D so to speak i am nudging towards the Top 10 xD
     
  3. meba091

    meba091 Forum Veteran

    It sure does - every little bit ;)
    And it all goes back to playing lettuce :music:


    Oh you overestimate me....especially my funds xDxDxD


    Is that an invitation? :music:
     
  4. dutchboy

    dutchboy Forum Great Master

    Mooboy if that is an invitation i would like to sign up :p
    for more than 1 reason

    besides that it is interresting to know what and why and how we play it is a big data place where we all can learn something
    myself i play over 5 1/2 years and with reading quite a bit on forums i still here and read things i didnt know or forgot
    and like you said there is quite a big differents on the markets you work on that really can make a differents between a milljonair or a biljonair
    this fact has great influence how you play and what trategy will be good for you to get maximum results
    so i think there still a lot to learn for me ;)
     
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  5. woody

    woody Commander of the Forum

    I would only consider that after finishing other goals -- quests leveling up in artisan village, being able to mill my own kiwis feed (reaching level 96), etc. These goals are "expensive" perhaps, but no more than selling everything off. Also, while I am not up for harvest hoedown, I prefer to just building up stocks higher over selling and regrowing everything. Maybe if I had a million of everything, I might think about a sell-off.
     
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  6. dutchboy

    dutchboy Forum Great Master

    just started a new account to see how difficult it is to start over with nothing at all :cry:
    with only my knowledge of the game see how long it will take to get to a reasonble level again :p
     
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  7. Sweet_Cassiopeia

    Sweet_Cassiopeia Forum Overlooker

    Hope you get a great mentor!
     
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  8. habalala

    habalala Emperor of the Forum

    Thanks for your input Mooboy. I agree with you that selling out at any time doesn't go well with maximazing profits. As i didn't buy most of my current stock, I consider any sale of it will provide me a decent profit. Pretty much shortterm indeed, missing out on longterm profits.

    On the restock thou, I might be forced to buy some (or many) of the items one needs to run a farm from the market. That's the point where resale comes in mind and making a profit becomes more of an issue.

    My farm is only nine months old but be asured I've spend hours and hours watching the markets and I do know pretty well how to move around in there. From the hundreds of my listings only a very few ever returned. And thanks to that, as stated before, my farm and funds are very healthy for such a young farm. I won't make 500m anytime soon but if I want to I can reach 100m within a week, even without selling all! It's just not a goal. Yet.

    Anyways, I'm still thinking about a complete sell out. It seems a fun thing to do and it's tempting.. I just need a bit more planning. And wisdom.

    Dutchboy: Good luck with your babyfarm!
     
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  9. dutchboy

    dutchboy Forum Great Master

    update :account started of at 14.00 have just achieved level 25 :p
    but with the knowledge that I have is that much easier if someone new
    it is strange that the barn is almost empty i ve got a lot of work ahead xD
     
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  10. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    I am started probably as many as 100 farms since beginning the game and they were begun at various times for many reasons. Leveling up very quickly is quite possible. With each new farm there is less of a learning curve to operating it. The only aspect of learning that continuously exists for a long while is that of a new market. If you continue opening new farms then even the aspect of the new market will cease as there are a limited number of markets.

    To quickly buy in the market in order to complete the FSQs one needs funds so one liquidates stock routinely and quickly. Your speed of level up depends upon your objectives. There is the constant liquidating of stock to supply the revenue. There is a definite order to the quests being completed for the primary purpose of leveling up also.

    From the experience one can learn the new FSQs, relearn the old ones, the understanding of quantity in listing becomes more evident which naturally learn one to price considerations, and one will turn to the combination of price and quantity considerations together in listings.

    As far as the farm beginning to become completely functional, in order to do thisas fast as possible (if speed is the main objective at the time) then one gets into what I refer to as star buying because the land is needed. As far as minimum stock, 600 of each mainland seed is plenty enough to work all the mainland with 1x1s if using cac. If BAHA and the rain forest are open then the minimum is about 400 seeds. Yes, there is a method to this and the person new to the game will not realize it.

    The above is more of a constant turnover approach than just a simple one time sell all and begin again.

    One can begin a new farm, even get a mentor, poop the path up, and graduate from the mentor's nest at level 40 in 36 hours and have a real life. Had the discussion with a mentor and the results I state are those of the mentor. If one starts setting alarm clocks and all then it the growth can be accomplished even faster than that. Up to each individual and the goals set! (And not to say you would, but if setting up another farm I recommend going out of ones way to avoid any rules violations by sending gifts or trading with ones own farms.)

    FYI, the best time to begin a new farm is a day or so before the beginning of a growth based event. The strategy most used here is chickens by day if time permits harvesting and rabbits by night. Poop sales immediately fund the growth. Pens are paid for in a single round. Neighbors can be gotten from the market and when the level is enough to open the meadow it is all cleared.
     
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  11. dutchboy

    dutchboy Forum Great Master

    it is not a race but just a way to find out how difficult it is to build from scrach up to a simmular farm level
    to get supplies from all and how long it will take to have a reasonable farm with everything you need to run a good farm
    so leveling is not the point but to get all supplies and animals animalfood that is really goiing to take a while ;)

    thats why i made a new account just to see without risking my own farm :p
     
  12. Jools

    Jools Forum Pro

    I'm a little consfused by "start from scratch" do you just mean emptying your barn, or selling all you stables and trees at G&T too?
    As I usually only grow what I need I never have more than a few 1000 of anything and often get down to virtually none
     
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  13. habalala

    habalala Emperor of the Forum

    @Jools
    I meant and mean selling all and everything sellable stored in my barn. Yup, there's enough space to store more but to what purpose other then ... ain't it full enough? Ain't it time for a good Spring cleaning? :)

    "scratch" here means: starting over with 0 in stock, 100m+ CC on hand
     
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  14. Jools

    Jools Forum Pro

    I'm well aware what starting from scratch means, to me selling the contents of your barn isn't starting from scratch as it wouldn't actually take too long to replenish it, with enough trees and pens to fill the farm 4 or 5 times over it's hardly starting with nothing.
    I really can't see what it would achieve, apart from shed loads of money in the bank - to do what with, buy all the stuff you've just sold?

    If you really wan to start from scratch, start a new farm and see quick you can get it to the same level as your current one, but again that seems rather pointless to me. I've never understood people who keep starting new farms or have multiple farms and moan about how much time it takes to run them all. Personally I think BP should ban multiple farms as they encourage cheating
     
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  15. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    It's not allowed farms of the same player to help each other anyway but even if they do what's the problem?
    I mean they can send gifts and crafts but that's not cheating because it doesn't really boost your own farm. But I know most players here who have multiple farms don't help each other. And if some want to have more than one farm that's their decision.
     
  16. farmingfreebird

    farmingfreebird Exceptional Talent

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    The time that I sold everything in my barn, was because I wanted to stop playing. I couldn't afford the harvester for a while and I had just had it. So, I decided to sell everything. I think it took me about a week to list everything, LOL. AND I sold everything for low prices too, to make others happy. [​IMG]
    But, once I had sold everything, I DID have a nice CC balance, [​IMG] and since then, I've rarely grown much animals again! These days I just buy them. Animals, products, anything that takes too long. [​IMG]
    (i am SO impatient!!! [​IMG] )

    Now, I just have my jumbo trees out, and some crops and other trees. And occasionally, SOME animals, like when there's a rumor about frog breeding being next, then I grow frogs. (IF I can't buy them at a sensible price [​IMG] )

    I will admit though, it is not that easy to GROW your entire barn back, once you've sold it all. But, with loads of CC...that should not matter too much. [​IMG]

    The only warning I'd give: watch out for selling products that are constantly gone, or sold out. Those will be hard to come by again!!

    Other than that.... [​IMG] GO for it! [​IMG] It IS fun, to see how much cc you can get! [​IMG]
     
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  17. Jools

    Jools Forum Pro

    I don't like buying things at market really, I prefer to grow things myself. buying your way way through the challenges seems rather pointless to me. but I sometimes buy feed ingredients to mill
    I play because I like the challenge
    I do buy animals for events sometime though, as I have a small stock in the barn as everything ends up going towards FSQs
     
  18. meba091

    meba091 Forum Veteran

    Do you think the same about multiple forum accounts?
     
  19. Jools

    Jools Forum Pro

    they wouldn't be possible if they banned multiple farms would they? ;)
     
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  20. habalala

    habalala Emperor of the Forum

    Thanks for all the input people! *GROUP HUG*

    I made up my mind and decided sell off all but a few high lvl breeds I worked hard on.
    I made a plan but as the weather here finally improves somewhat I didn't set a start date yet.
    Outdoor joy wins from indoor farmarama!

    Thanks again everybody! Your views and comments did help!
     
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