Feedback Manufactory and Arboretum

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  1. teddy.bear

    teddy.bear Board Administrator Team Farmerama EN

    Howdy Farmers,

    Please post your constructive comments, positive and negative, regarding the Manufactory and Arboretum features announced here, in this Feedback thread.

    Please be sure to bring arguments for supporting your statements, simple comments saying you like it or hate it will not help the Team understand what goes great, and what needs to be looked into, when planning future changes.

    If you have any questions, please use the General Issues section or the Technical Issues section for technical problems - this thread is for feedback only. Thank you for understanding.

    We are looking forward to your feedback!
    Best regards,
    Your Farmerama Team
     
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  2. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    I defended the menagerie and I also like the manufactory. The upgrades are more expensive, but at least no wood :p But the arboretum, what can I say xDxDxD

    A small comparison:

    -Space savedPrice
    2 basic menageries24 small plots500 stars + 299 BB
    2 basic manufactories24 small plots500 stars + 299 BB
    2 basic arboretum4 small plots415 stars + 199 BB
    Per plot saved, the arboretum costs 5 times as many stars and 4 times as many BBs compared the other storehouses.

    Now what if we upgrade them? I'll disregard the tools used directly for upgrading and just look at the requirements for the FSQ, compared to space saved:

    -Extra space savedEV animalsEV toolsEV crops/fruit
    Fully upgrading 2 menageries32 small plots8,000,000225,0002,250,000
    Fully upgrading 2 manufactories32 small plots13,500,000337,5003,375,000
    Fully upgrading 2 arboretum4 small plots3,600,000180,0001,800,000
    Per plot saved:
    • The arboretum upgrade costs twice as much in animals as the manufactory upgrade, 3.6 times as much as the menagerie upgrade.
    • The arboretum upgrade costs 4.3 times as much in tools and crops/fruits as the manufactory upgrade, 6.4 times as much as the menagerie upgrade.
    The menagerie was already expensive, but the arboretum is just far far too expensive xD

    I see it says the limit of 8 slots is due to technical reasons. That sounds to me like a reason to just drop the arboretum. But now that you've made it, please reconsider the price (both for the basic and for upgrading), it is completely out of proportion to the two others.


    Those that have thousands of extra stars can always get the arboretum to increase the chance of drills :sleepy: Other than that I don't see much reason to be excited about the arboretum :oops:

    Edit: Learned how to spell arboretum :D
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2016
  3. Noelle20001

    Noelle20001 Forum Duke

    I see no great benefit for the expense incurred and will not be using stars or BBs to get ANY of the Storage facilities at this time. At least I won't be sweating over the number of drill drops! Change the cost or the benefit and I might reconsider.
     
  4. 12ss12

    12ss12 Living Forum Legend

    Right now I am not interested in acquiring Manufactory and Arboretum. I find that as a luxury and not cost worth. I am stopping with the one Menagerie I got from stars. One or two menagerie/manufactory/arboretum is not enough. It should have been more. In my humble opinion menagerie/manufactory/arboretum for 500 stars/ 299 BBs is not worth straining for. I might get manufactory and arboretum when I have sufficient stars. But I will not strain myself to get those starts. Let them happen their own way in their own rate.
     
  5. dutchboy

    dutchboy Forum Great Master

    I agree that thecosts are getting out of hand for what you get
    so i buy only the onces you with my stars :p
    but i would pay with BB s i will start to control myself since BP is getting price wise out of control xD i think
     
  6. meba091

    meba091 Forum Veteran

    Well said Mir! I totally agree.
    The aboretum is not at all attractive to me at that cost for the upgrades. I do have the stars when this event is over and may get it just to get drills and then ..... well just keep it as it is.
     
  7. 007Farming

    007Farming Forum General

    Sorry....Regardless of how many stars and BB's I have....NONE of the new offerings appeal to me at all. Value offered by BP does not equal the expected player value given in return. There is a very unbalanced expectation....scales are tipped way to high in one direction:(
     
  8. playful123

    playful123 Forum Pro

    i think they should have just added an orchard and another field for whatever, they are putting too much stuff in this game for the space we have . not spending a dime on this game anymore ,im almost so done with this game.
     
  9. habalala

    habalala Emperor of the Forum

    Also keep in mind this is just for mainland fields only. On mainland Maple Sap treefruit has the highest EV .. a whooping 170.

    Anyone care to do the profit calculation?

    BP team .. guess it's time for a rethink.
     
  10. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    With all the cloud rows and high EP givers in my park, I find the EP from my fields are not that essential anymore. Market prices for the produce is most often the deciding factor when it comes to what I put on the fields.
     
  11. elena516

    elena516 Advanced

    I didn't buy the menagerie and waited the arboretum, but seeing how it works I'm avoiding it too.

    I could take the manufactory as it looks as the less worse, I actually have enough stars, but the upgrading quest is really scary... o_O

    Especially with all the people not getting any drill.
    So undecided....... Better wait some more and think about it..... :oops:
     
  12. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    Mir 85, I Stopped Focusing on Getting EP Since I unlocked Persian Buttercup. As there is nothing to motivate me to get more EP. I have Turned my park into Amusement Park, using the Special Givers, or Best looking Givers. They are not is the best EP Givers i have.

    It is only TEP that rewards me with GB. Better than Leveling up on Main farm which is so boring at my level. I do not touch my EP Cloud Rows only TEP Cloud Rows and Special Cloud Rows. Which Save me lots of Clicking.

    I Agree that Arboretum is a huge huge let down. Just to gain an extra 2 x (1x1) for Trees....I cannot believe why Farmerama spend so much time on Developing it. As Producing 6 XXL Trees is not that effective or productive anyway, As you cannot obtain XXL New Rare Trees that has high CC Price in the Markets. Only limits to 20 Hours.
    We have more Effective Buffs using Menagerie or Manufactory.

    Pineapple Cake Gives us +1 Fruits on All Tropical Trees. There is no +1 Fruit Feature on Main Farm. !! Another reason not to get Arboretum !!

    We can Place up to 6 Pink Production Workshops into Manufactory. Ideally they need to have same duration times. But very Expensive to be able to do this in terms of Tools and Breeding Donations.

    As I was Hoping to have an Orchard or Forest for Surplus Trees that I have o_O
     
  13. mingling

    mingling Forum Baron

    -.- I read this and even my math skills said what?
    I save how many 1x1's that will keep me from just buying whatever tree product I need in difference of growing?
    To save space was the idea, 4 plots is not saving a thing in my book, if I can buy it every 20 hours and still not feel the wallet burn of CC gone I don't see the point.
    I don't have bells and whistles, no tree CR or fab-u-lish rare tree upgrades heck, I don't have many rare trees, but I did expect to sit here and have to calculate time of each type of rare and see any loss as to mixing them to fill space.

    I will not be going for the tree one I will save my pitiful star count and getting them product ones and the rest of my future stars can build and wait for island things.
    Poor operation on this one.
     
  14. djh99

    djh99 Regular

    I like the idea of the manufactury and then I see you have to get the other 2 before you reach it, thats effectively 1500 stars for that last storage thing. I'll have to think again.
     
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  15. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Hi djh99 :) You can get the manufactory without getting the two others :)
     
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  16. josstreater

    josstreater Advanced

    Oh the arboretum is such a disappointment after the wait. Just 8 trees in a 2x2 area? Just hopeless..... I will probably spend my stars on one manufactory but I will not be upgrading it or buying a second for BBs.
     
  17. zoonose

    zoonose Forum Apprentice

    If there really is a technical limit of 8 trees per arboretum.... then make it a 1x1, not a 2x2...
    I was looking forward to that one, being able to regain 6 2x2 spaces from 2 arboretums would have meant I could have 2 of each storehouse on the glade without removing any of the current trees or loosing any field space.
    The manufactories are fine though.
     
  18. dutchboy

    dutchboy Forum Great Master

    Iam disappointed in the whole setup of the warehouses they deliver too little cost far too much and the nonsense that it is only for players above level 50, I did not understand the game should be fun for young and old without great cost on every level

    rich or poor or simply dont want to pay for a game at all

    i have a rich farm because i pay for things but i think its getting out of control and i will also start to play different with less expence
    and if it means i cant have it all :music:to bad i promise i will try xD
     
  19. deanarue

    deanarue Forum Apprentice

    The only good thing I can say is that its cute.
    too little for too much.

    I had hoped that the mods/designers/developers had heard us. So I saw the Quests and thought, "Yeah, drills!" but no...
    So I have pretty things that cost too much and do too little, Save time and space? Really? If you think that it is that much faster to click once rather than 6 times, get a stop watch because I estimate it saves me about 30 seconds...

    WOW... uh not.
     
  20. A7XKo7nchick

    A7XKo7nchick Active Author

    Hmmm -.- that's about the best comment I can make as far as the Arboretum is concerned -.- I, like the fellow farmers above, was really hoping for something that would house more trees than has actually been offered :music: who knows, maybe, in the future we may become lucky enough to have an orchard :) that would be so lovely :) I am looking forward to investing in the Manufactory though ;) that is a building to use my stars on I think :) so, for that I say thank you to BP for trying :)