I'm broke, again! How do I make ccs?

rofl and throwing the computer in the air and now rofl and Helarious

Aluntino, just go on and join. Don't be shy. Just admit it.

Okay, I have a deal for you. If you will make 20 listings of 1 apple at the index price of 60 then ..... just because you have done this and are a premium member, .....after 7 days and they return to your barn I will nominate you for:

President of the Market Giraffes

AND

puppiesnponies if you will just go on and make 10 listings of 1 apple, .... after 7 days and they return to your barn I will nominate you for:

Vice-President of the Market Giraffes

And what's more is that

Aluntino and puppiesnponies will hold a LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP.

If you want to really fall out, then go to pinkie pie pie. Don't look to list first. Just scroll down until you see the pages and pages of a price and you will know you are at the market index of I think 29,005.

THEN look at the highest price. Don't fall out yet.

Then look at the lowest price.

This will be when you think you have seen it all.

Can you look like this: or or just

One more: Go to papaya and do the same thing.

Then ask yourself what level must you be to even see papaya?

Then ask yourself did you hit your head?

cya later ... I'm going to go and buy some of those roosters and play them like lettuce for quick easy CCS.

 

I watch PPP often. I need it to level my bakery. It is one of the most valuable products in the game (I think) and I would love to have another pet that gives it. As soon as I get 5 of them, I use them to upgrade the bakery. Getting close to level 5 but it could still take a few weeks.

 

Hi Broke
Can't seem to catch you in chat anymore so I'll ask you here.
Is this why I'm getting all those Wilsons from you,because I'm a member of the Giraffes ??
Let me know when I can sell them on the market for a good price.
Waiting for you in chat and everyone else who wants to come

 

Hiya Tommone,
It is so so good to see you. I looked for you in chat but I never find you or anyone else there. As long as you keep receiving the Wilsons you know I have not forgotten about you. How could I?

Tommone you inspired my young farm for primarily breeding. When it began I thought there was no such thing as a cc. I kept to the intention and set it up for ccs. It generated just shy of 6 million in 2 days. When I visit there in a minute I will be sure to send you another Wilson.

Your farmwife seems to be a bit concerned you might try and start breeding Wilsons .

Seeing another member of the Giraffes is so very nice. I know we can see the whole market with our heads so high in the sky. Just the words "Market Giraffe" must have brought you out.

There is just no telling when and where a true Market Giraffe will show up. I am glad I joined. Is Debbie1725 a member of the giraffes? Or Illy or Chevrefeuille or Farmerumf or SylvanasW or SuzzeeRabbit?

Great seeing you fellow Giraffe.

By the way, I have been watching those sunflowers. Price has nearly doubled on my market for a week. I'm still going to hold, the market is signaling change on the way in that area. Gathering hay a little faster now. Doesn't take much more for prices to explode. I don't know your market though. Sorghum is maxed out on several markets. Blackberry is a long story. (Last call engaged in market warfare. Took the approach if I wasn't going to make anything then no one would. Played a game of "How much can you loose?" Now I'm buying it back.)

Good ccs in playing called-for breeding animals for a little while. Now very very risky. Market will be flooded soon with those looking for quick ccs with no thought or knowledge. That is just about over. Markets will all fall and there will be a very late 2-3 hour surge in prices but not as they were. Getting harder and harder and the greedy will begin to sell and cut their losses and those thinking prices will rise further will suddenly try and sell.

Broke event farmers will begin desperation sales today.

Let me send you that Wilson to keep an eye on ya. cya

 

Pnp, I agree. I don't have the recipe because I missed that event, but I think it is tremendously undervalued (in my limited, not-much-market-experience-view) and am always amazed I can scoop it up at the prices it goes for. I fear it will not always be so. If BP wants all my BBs, offering that recipe or PPP-yielding pet would be a good way to get them.

*hint*hint* ....c'mon BP let's make a PPP deal, eh?

 

A broke Alert: EASY QUICK CCs NOW

Go to breeding animals called for.
Try and list one in order to get a price point.
Go to the lowest price on the market
Scroll until you find a price you feel you can sell at
Then begin slowly buying.
Sell in Quantities of no lower than 5 and no higher than 10
Don't get greedy, you will loose.
Work in terms of absolute ccs made
If in doubt about profit, be sure to use the purchase price divided by .90 <--- you make nothing and loose nothing
As long as you sell above that price you will make ccs.
You can make thousands at a time just clicking and letting other farmers use their power feed.

You won't have to wait days and days for ccs. Give the breeding animals no respect, be hard, and treat them like lettuce or wheat and no problem. Keep the first numbers you looked at in mind. DO NOT GO TOO FAR UP IN BUY PRICE OR SELL PRICE. The further up you go, the greater the risk of bringing more sellers into the market to compete with you. When something tells you to get out, then get out. Those who are greedy will loose, just set them up.

FOR ADVANCED MARKET PLAYERS:

Through trading you can push the market price up
You must have a roll of ccs.
Buy buy buy and list list list in offers of no less than 8
Using this method and about 3M ccs I was able to push the brown cow market up and sell brown cows at the low of 77,000
Plan on a loss as you exit the market.
No problem, you would have made enough to more than cover it. Simply a cost of treating breeding animals like lettuce.

If one does not have the basics learned from playing lettuce then I do not advise playing with these larger cc amounts.

Don't use tactics learned when becoming a Market Giraffe.

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Try and get out of the market BEFORE your market becomes inactive. Advanced market players already operate with this in mind and know what to do. New markets players, please don't loose in trying to prove this wrong.

If you do not have any idea of what you are doing, do not play with it.

FOR THIS TYPE OF QUICK PLAY: KEEP AN EYE ON THE MARKET (WHILE WATCHING A MOVIE OR GAME). Having your listing go beyond page 3 will only force you to wait. Just take a little bit and sell, sell, sell, sell, buy, buy, buy, ...sell. People who have ccs will buy, but not all are foolish.

All you will be doing is clicking a button and CCs will come out.

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Don't get overconfident because it is working and try to push that market up. If you DO, you will be playing with advanced market players.

Don't try playing with moving that index up and eliminating the number of offers unless you have done this before and there are things to be certain one understands. (Going back to the cc gumball machine --- hahahaha)

Don't worry about the real Market Giraffes, they don't read the forum.

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Farmers are finishing the event. There will be bubbles where one can still make good ccs. Farmers finishing mean a decrease in demand at these prices. Demand cannot support these prices after the event unless developers work it and enough historical data does not exist.

Now if one decides to play breeding animals one is riding the market down.

If one want to learn to play this way cheaply then one can go play in the poop pile (manure market) <---- did I really say go play in the ....? That market is cheap to play and learn to ride the market down and profit. 20,000 ccs is plenty enough to learn it. Lots between 100 and 130 will sell quickest. Get greedy and you loose. Good Luck.

Sure wish I could send Aluntino a stuffed Market Giraffe animal and a cute one to puppiesnponies.

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Now too risky for me and I'm out.

Over 13,000 cows sold. BP was successful in emptying a lot of power feed from barns. Now time for um to sell more during a breeding event.

Now time to sell more cow feed and rabbit feed from supplies and ride those markets down. Hope I don't go shopping but I know the ccs are burning my pockets.

 

I declare Aluntino the winner of the debate between Broke and Aluntino. Don't Boo-Hoo to hard Broke. Every debate needs a winner. My declaration might be biased any way. I will give you my reasoning for declaring Aluntino the winner.

The main reason is that I see and understand Aluntino's bottom line - his objective. Broke, this is what confuses me the most about your logic. I like almost everyone else do not understand what your reward is for going broke. I used to understand that the reason for 0 CC is that all your CCs are tied up in investments or from paying the 10%, I understand this cycle and can see how playing the market like this is thrilling, but you lost me with the Market Giraffes.

I can understand thumbing your nose at the system and especially towards the developers. Broke, you have opened my eyes at what the developers are doing. This does not surprise me; although, it makes me sad. It does explain why week after week hundreds of idiots sell over-priced merchandise. I do have some more questions for you about this that I will post at the end of my explanation of declaring Aluntino the winner.
My next reason has to do with the premise of the debate - exchange values as a market guide opposed to understanding & anticipating farmer's market habits. Broke you did successfully open my eyes to a new way of looking at EV, but it is too complex and it requires much math. As everyone knows, I suck at math so ... I will use this new understanding in modification to help me reason the highs and lows of the market.

The final and most important reason for declaring Aluntino the winner is that I am too much like him. Aluntino this is not an insult. You have taught me well. I naturally look at the macrocosm of the game what things are gone to influence the market and why will players react the way they do. I enjoy understanding all the dynamics of this game which then allows me to pick and choose what I do. I also like taking advantage of the desperate needs of others in the market. I love it when I can sell something for an insanely high price, because I had the foresight to plan ahead.

Yes, my forehead is red and swollen from slapping myself over Pheromones. Yes, I had over 40 trees and one time, and know only have 8 so others can now take advantage of me during B&T as I try to increase my quantity of trees. I do use them allot and my minimum is 1k.

Broke, I do think that you look out for trends to take advantage of them, but your playing style is largely just the market. Aluntino plays every aspect of the game which gives him a fuller awareness. Plus, he understands the folly the farmers indulge in. He does not agree with it, but he understands why a farmer will pay 40 K for a Cocoa bunny and why a person would let go of a Gorilla for 1/2 it's value just so they can buy that last Cocoa.

Thank you both for articulating your opposing viewpoints. As the winner, I will send Aluntino a pheromone from my farmermeg farm. I am sending the winners prize from this farm since he already gets a gift from this farm.

Broke - I hope one day you will let us in on your motivation for play this game and specificlly for playing the market the way you do. I want to know how you get your jollies that motivates you to keep going broke.

Here is my question:
Broke - Are the developers putting all those higher prices to manipulate the sliding scale used to sell goods? As Aluntino has pointed out many of us non smarty-pants market players do use that sliding scale to help us sell are goods? - If you are correct, then that means we are being manipulated. This is not a free market! How can we manipulate them back?

 

Hello sglick,

I will respond to the bulk of your message shortly. A no thought quick message:

Your eyes are still closed very tightly as to what developers are doing and why or how. I have never thumbed my nose as to what developers are doing and that is said in no uncertain terms. I can see some of what developers are doing and even why. I am assured developers are doing absolutely nothing that would shorten the overall life of this game and must conclude that their actions, whether one likes them or not, is done with purpose and goals in mind. (These goals are accomplished by meeting short-run objectives accomplished through events <--- one way.)

Developers have a very challenging and necessary function here. They have access to vast amounts of data which are carefully used prior to decisions being made which change the direction of this game. Many aspects of this game were put into place with purpose and one of them is exchange value which few players even slightly understand. Developers have a tough job and must plan and think along the way.

Developers here are not stupid by any stretch of the imagination. I have no reason to hold my own with them or they with me; it is apparent I can and with strength.

With absolute certainty, the results of their development efforts converge in the market. I did not give them my respect. They earned it!

 

I totally Agree with what sglick is saying and I also voucher for Aluntino as I play the same was as Aluntino....Well Almost as we cant play exactly the same methods etc ....

It Does not make any sense or logic to go broke, when you seen opportunity to make cc when you need to buy things in the market to really make good profits, but set yourself in Limbo with no immediate liquidity to bargains to be....

Sadly Broke is too obsessed with Trade Values Rules, the Trade Value Concept does not always work unless there is an Event is Based purely on Trade Value Donations !!!

Broke you have pointed out in the markets about this back end Markets sellers who sells one quantity of 1 item for the Maximum Market Price it makes no logic at all that it will get sold within seven whole days before it get send back to farmers barn unsold it does arise to curiosity why these idiots do this, it does suspense a common pattern to what purpose...

Well there is one clue that we can tell what markets we are on simply using to spot certain sellers selling certain crops ....!!!

I Always play my farm with a lots of Practical and Logical Concepts, Also play it as efficiently as possible and also have fun playing the game completely real events, quests etc

 

Mooboy, I doubt nothing you are saying nor care how many ccs you hold and I definitely understand why you choose to hold. Now you may wish to expand your mind and attempt to vaguely understand why I choose not to hold them in mass.

Be assured I can hold my own with any of your concepts you so choose to disclose, try me if you dare. You may even conclude that if they are worthwhile and make any sense whatsoever in light of what I already know then I will use them and try to abusive them. Bring them on if you care to.

My tactics are practiced and implemented by no accident whatsoever and are supportable to you or anyone else regardless of level of status in the whole organization. This is precisely the reason I am selling over 33,000 donkey feed at more than double the price I paid for them at this moment.

Liquidity! Don't be confused. I have missed maybe a total of 3 buys I would have taken in the last 3 years and have never needed to look at 100 million. I'm not at all afraid to spend it to exactly -0- and will spend it wisely and may not buy a single high priced breeding animal.

No need for me to prove anything to you. I will only tell you I would have no problem whatsoever in generating 400 million ccs in 7 days. And with little effort.

Neither of our ways, or Aluntinos is totally correct or wrong. Show me something that I can use to improve mine if you can. I'll say it to all and send you gifts of value in appreciation. No need for off the cuff comments.

I simply demand you respect mine whether you give me credit for the ability to do so or not.

Donkey breeding ccs is all but over for me after I dump the 33,000 feed. If your methods are indeed Practical and Logical any carry any worth to me then they will have signaled the next breeding animal after donkeys.

I've all but moved on except for trading donkeys like lettuce while others breed them. Happy growing.

Bring me something to think about, I plan to go flat broke again.

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Mooboy,

Gladly, there is no obsession with trade value, properly termed exchange value, here. Knowledge of exchange value is only a single tool in the bag and the tool is not so cheap to acquire.

(Developers put it out clearly knowing full well nearly all will not even attempt to understand or use it. Most will not even attempt to use the number of offers even though it is right in front of us. And if players ever do begin to use it efficiently and effectively then the developers will provide more data which may be considered in decision making. And not until!)

Certainly I can provide a glimpse into why farmers sell at the ridiculous prices that they do and how they get there.

1. Some practice in this manner because they simply do not know any better. Easy. I can only guess that they feel they are able to get someone to buy at those ridiculous prices. We both know better.

2. Obviously they do not visit the forum. Here so many have pointed out how illogical the practice is.

3. The game is played by many different age groups and some do not have adequate real life experience to behave as we regard as logically.

4. The game is played by individuals with various educational levels.

5. The listing page shows a sliding index and many do not know how it originated, where it originated, or how it was determined. And don't care either.

6. Individuals have different game levels.

7. Individuals have different degrees of market experience in the game as well as in real life.

Sure there are more. I know you have some ideas, you can't help but have them knowing what you know.

In this thread, I purposely try and provide an avenue to discuss making ccs. Of course I know of ep, and with over 1,700 animal and production pens I know how to use them, and you may feel assured I know what to grow and what size plots to use and what buffs to use if I intend to grow. And I know how much I will pay in the market to buy ep too.

Mooboy, we both had to begin somewhere in making ccs, however we did it.

A glimpse just for you:

If I may assist anyone,
who wants to generate ccs,
and do so unselfishly, honestly, efficiently, and with clarity,

Then

While playing this game,
and while doing the same in real life,
and while learning with those I may assist,

I WILL NEVER EVER BE BROKE WHILE PLAYING THIS GAME OR THE GAME OF LIFE

Now how can I make a cc or two or three?

 

LOL. You're really funny, farmer_broke.

And altogether right.

When I said many weeks ago I don't believe you're actually broke is because you are not, by any means, if you have bids in mkt in place that will feed your CCs stock soon, and stock wisely kept for bidding when you feel it's appropriate (and profitable) to. And I was sure you had them, both, because it's been obvious for me since your thread in the other forum that you know what you're doing.

I thank the words Sglick said about me and this so called debate between you and me, but I actually don't think there's any debate at all.

At least, not in the essence.

Both you and me, it's apparent to me, see the way markets work in the same way a lion surveys the savanna below from a promontory -forgive me for the license- but with an eye on how things are interlinked and evolve in time. Maybe the only real difference is how we consider exchange value but, in the end, the result is the same.

When it's needed or convenient, I dump loads of CCs in mkt in a short time. You do that all the time; I do it sometimes. A good example of mine is these last few days with the low level bred animals frenzy induced by the event. Starting with 8M CCs, I got twice down to around 1M CCs in stock -I stopped there both times- and went up afterwards over 10M CCs both times; the latter, the definitive one, reaching 12M CCs. Since I spent along the event around 8M CCs buying other cheap stuff -not those specific low level bred animals-, for both use and future sale, I may say the final actual net profits I made from playing the low level bred animals markets during the event may sit around 9/10M CCs -the other 2/3 came from selling the bred animals I had in stock at its start-, totalling about 12. I highlight "during" because those other 8M CCs I spent on other stuff will translate into other millions in the future, when the appropriate (and profitable as I like or need: it depends...) time comes. More or less I did what you summarize in your notes above, because that's what I always do in such occasions and, also, but at a much milder pace, almost daily. But, as you pointed out there, you must know what you are doing.

I particularly agree with you on the fact that learning how to work with markets here gives a hint on how to work with them in real life in a broader sense -that can be both literal and metaphorical- . That's the key for neither getting nor staying broke, both here and in real life.

I always say highly ranked universities should include Farmerama markets for teaching how markets work, how things are interlinked and how individual segments and mass behaviours affect both. In other words, to teach behavioural economics and theories like the ones devised by Nobel prize Nash, at least but not only. Bigpoint should market this game there (Bigpoint: I can assist you if you hire me... LOL). I'm serious. The very reason why I play this game is because its players' needs -considering the different types of players, like in real life there are all sorts of people-, its markets and how they interact are a pretty good reflection of how people relate through trade, originated on limited room and time -of each individual player and the players community as a whole-. If there were inflation and finance, credit crunches and complex taxation, it'd be an almost perfect sandbox....

 

Oh No!

Broke - I still have not read this last message. I will. I just need more caffeine before I do. I am writing now because, my eye caught your bottom line. It makes me sad. You LOVE going broke so go broke. My wish for every player is to have fun in a way that is right for each individual person. I love these strategy discussions, because they help me to play my style of play more effectively. I have often in the past written argumentative/ debate type posts about different aspects of this game. They have helped me define for myself what I do like to do and why I do not. They have also helped and entertained others. Talking strategy and pretending to be smart is one of my favorite aspects of the game.

I am truly sorry, if I went to far in critiquing your reasoning. I tried to keep it friendly. I guess I should have added more jokes. The last thing in the world that I wanted to do was to sway you from going Broke. Instead, I am intrigued about the motivation behind going Broke. Please, Please, Please, Do Not Stop Going Broke!

 

Now I know for sure the event is over. So many people just show up. Must be no ccs to be made if farmers like Mooboy nd Aluntino come around.
Mooboy, someone accidently reminded me of who you were. I am so happy to see you and you cannot imagine how much. I have thought about you so many many times and wanted your opinion about so many things. Thanks for joining us here and I know you have a lot of good information to share. Knowing one thing about Mooboy makes me want to celebrate and grow until I get all weeds And then leave the weeds to look at.

Aluntino, I didn't realize we have given the impression we were debating either. But after being declared the looser, I really didn't feel bad at all I kept asking myself why I don't feel bad too I now simply conclude that I could not have lost to any better of a farmer anyway. Now trying to find the benefits of loosing and I found one: You can stay responsible and have everyone look up to you and I can stay broke and on my merry way . Soon we may discuss using the game as an educational tool. Before we do, I can tell you I agree with you and even have tested using the game as an educational tool with several 11 - 16 year old students. The results are astonishing. They are so astonishing that all have left this game and have gone on and are now playing the real stock market. One of them somehow had sglick as a neighbor and sglick touched that individual and that individual has never forgotten. And that brings me to sglick.

sglick, I am with you, all these differing strategy discussions help us all. There are some following our discussions who are not joining in and perhaps this may be due to a fear of asking something they need knowing we have done this for a so long and in so many ways. I believe they would bring new life to us and I know some of their discussions have already caused me to reevaluate what I am doing and why. It is mutually beneficial. And they need you too. You can answer in a way I cannot and you do it in such a beautiful way.

And you have me thinking about your vanilla every single time I pass by it in the market . What have you done to me ? All of the crazy logic used and thought goes completely out the window for me with vanilla. I am a sglick follower and that is my only defense, win or loose. I am simply an sglick fan. I hope you will let me carry your bags in the market whenever you make the big ccs. (I really want a tip when we finish shopping so I won't be broke )

Please don't feel sorry for critiquing my reasoning. Please and please continue . You help me. I just have to be certain within myself that I can support my actions. I hope you will continue. Will you pick on Aluntino and Mooboy too though so I can watch?

And how can I make some ccs right now? I want to go on a shopping spree. I really want to buy some hamsters. A special friend in the game allowed me to use their name for my favorite hamster on my farm. That hamster needs a lot of company. And I have no other reason to buy them other than because of this wonderful farmer. Kinda like you and the vanilla thingies.

 

Hi Broke, Sorry Maybe you did not realize that Mooboy is Actually Ajjg1966, so we have spoke on chat on many occasions. As chat is not that popular as it use to be some of it was good and enjoyable, But More often is was getting very annoying sadly i think the chat feature is never going to be the same as it use to be I think one of the reason some do find it be time consuming when more time is need to be spent on the markets for bargain or cheap buys

Thinks being sold in big bulks seem to be on decline too i hate buying these "1" items. But overall Prices in the markets seem to be steady climbing except for few things such as mushrooms prices have fallen due to cac prices in the market has fallen by 10 to 15K due to recent event that also includes sweet Rose Jam too

I am please to hear that i have made you smile and please to hear from me, as we seem to be back just like old times except not in chat anymore. Me, Broke, Aluntino and Sglick we all have different views on how we see the markets and make the best of most of the markets while we can

We always Make more cc prior to an event starting or during an Event, but markets seem quieter when their is no event running, so all the needed event requirements after an event do start to fall in prices as i avoid buying any of these until they hit rock bottom prices i have to have a good guess what i call BOP (Bottom Out Price) so it cant fall any further down in Price on anything in the markets These are kind of things that are really worth buying to make profit later on.

These Brown Breeding Animals and Roosters will start to fall back to normal selling prices as chili event made them into super inflated prices which is a god sent to those who into making lots of cc just like us

Now We Work on Donkey Breeding Event and Halloween Event. I Do stock up on rare animals and normal animals when they have hit BOP marker as i need to stock up on cows but have to wait until they fall back to normal market prices

The only craft that is really worth making to make profit is Easter Marmalade, many crafts cost more to make than current selling market prices. I do often buy crafts that are cheaper to buy than to make, the other reason is save me a lot of salt, sugar, herbals as i have no need to waste my BB buying when i am in short supply of them atm i have surplus of 20.000 each of them in my barn try keep it at that level

For Aluntino and Sglick I do try to reason with Broke have been for a while now, but not on chat anymore so i do it here instead

 

It is just so wonderful to hear from Mooboy. Noone could ever imagine how happy I am , really really really. I agree, chat does have its challenges. I do indeed miss the very nice people.

We have all said it so many times in so many different ways: Playing the market does require time to do it well. We see from the number of Market Giraffes that anyone may sell in it. The Market Giraffes do help developers though. Developers do have the challenge of removing/controlling the number of ccs in the game. The Market Giraffes help them by making the high priced listings over and over which will never sell. They help developers remove ccs from the game without the need for an event. A steady easy flow of ccs out of the game. hahahaha (And now that I know for sure who Mooboy really is, I just don't think Mooboy will join the Market Giraffes even for the fun of it. But I just must ask: Mooboy are you a member of the Market Giraffes too? You can tell us! )

I know you hate to buy those 1 offers. I wish I could flood your market with um too just because it is you watching. You are the greatest.

Yes we can see certain crops rising and those stable. This is where exchange value comes in again. The exchange value will provide a benchmark for comparison over time. No feelings involved at that point, just let the numbers talk to us. Leaves no doubt either.

Yes, Mooboy told the truth. Mooboy has definitely tried to reason with me hahahaha Just knowing Mooboy is protectively watching over me makes me feel even more excited about getting broke again. I can't wait much longer.

I won't even look at Brown Cows or Roosters. I never made so many ccs breeding a chicken in my life. I didn't even want the skips, I hated getting them. Now no more pf and fine with me.

Dumped over 13,000 cows and watching them fall and now selling the last few thousand cow feed and throwing the cow pens way way back in the barn. I put um where the donkeys usta be. hahahaha

The only way I will buy a cow at this moment is if it is at its exchange value and the seller throws in a Wilson as a gift.

I'll sell all the animal feed I have while farmers try and crank out donkey feed. And they bought some expensive donkey pens that will soon be pushed aside and they will flood the G&T market.

Yup, still panhandling pan handling special animals here. Did get to over 11,000 skunk to keep Debbie1725 out of my barn only to find out she is not scared of skunks. More on skunk later. You may even try and reason with me. What a joy that would be.

Maybe we should try a craft market discussion. We can even agree to disagree in advance. I want to be judged the looser but hold my own with you. Whenever you are ready.

Last thing Mooboy: Have you been giving out any CAC loans, oh I mean gifts, lately?

--edit-- I just saw a power feed sale. hahahahahaha I wonder how developers knew people didn't have anymore. hahahahahaha Be sure and rush right out and buy your power feed today. Hurry while supplies last. I'm going to see if I can get the paypal account from my farmwife, tlcmom. tlc , how about a little plastic for the hubby?

 

Hi Broke
I wrote to some Market Giraffes asking if they can explain to me WHY are they throwing away their CC's.
One answered it was a mistake and thanked me for letting him know another answered to write to him or her in Polish so I used Google Translate and asked him again, now I'm waiting for the replies from him and the others.
I'll let you know what comes out.I tried looking for English farmers but it's hard figuring out from their names where they come from. I just checked all the tree offers and there are 2 Giraffes that are throwing away millions of CCs

 

hahaha OMG Tommone is now communicating with our fellow Market Giraffes. hahaha
I need to find time to learn to grow some stuff. But maybe writing the Market Giraffes will be more fun. So now you are in Polish. One thing I can conclude: At least one Market Giraffe can read. I think I will write some too. I want to know how many of an item they have to sell at that outrageous price.

WOW, 2 throwing away millions. Maybe they will make me a CAC loan. Too entertaining.

I think I have enough ccs to buy my daily seed allotment of some seeds and take them directly to market. I'll list in 1's and spam the market while thinking of Mooboy. Thanks for the idea!

hmm Writing a Market Giraffe! No sense me trying to reason with that. I can't type for laughing.

--edit-- Tommone I wrote a Market Giraffe too. It was so hard to be serious. I asked why they sold apples at 60 and I want to know how many they have to sell at that price. Maybe they will answer. Will I be the first to buy from a Market Giraffe?" I want to buy just one. And then I want to try and list just one for 105. One Market Giraffe buying from another is unheard of. Maybe there is a secret society of Market Giraffes or something. We'll see.

 

Hi Tommone,

This farm applied to be a member of the Market Giraffes by making a single listing of 1 orange at 130. It should get returned to the barn and membership will be final. Next week it should receive its membership package.

I don't think Aluntino will be sending any pheromones to this farm knowing it is playing with the Giraffes.

Looks like membership is on the rise.

I don't play this farm much and it remains because of the wonderful mentor experience with Brookeham. Brookeham was sincerely trying to assist me. I simply could not behave as a donkey so I keep the farm going.

It has close to 7M yet has no goals or direction and that has held this farm back. A clear goal is necessary to be very successful in playing the market. Level 64.

 

Mooboy, have you checked out the price of dates on your market? I'm sure you have. Dates related to donkeys through donkey feed. The exchange value was a benchmark that allowed me to gauge the production of dates on farms. By having the exchange value as a benchmark, set in place, I was able to see market increase or decrease very accurately. Thus I was able to slowly acquire 400,000 and now dump them as people begin to produce donkey feed. At the same time, I was able to look at date prices and donkey feed prices together. I knew what point to begin acquiring 33,000 donkey feed. Now I dump them and move on.

Donkeys were dumped in high lots to several good customers who know I will give a fair price and not try and rip them off. It is to the point where they will even pay more than the cheapest in the market for the same size lot. All I want is a fair profit for the amount of risk I take. Donkeys were dumped first, donkey feed will be dumped in large lots until the market falls, and dates will be dumped at triple what was paid for them due to risk and length of holding.

I'm going to try and reason with you as you do with me. You might ought to rethink how you view exchange value and attempt to use it. Not easily learned but the profits are sensational once you do. I know you have and use good judgement. And I want to giv you my permission to continue using it when seriously considering exchange values in making market decisions.

I know, I know, , you don't need my permission to do anything I coudn't resist!

 

broke, as you said: Dates are needed for donkey feed, donkey feed is needed for donkeys, donkeys are needed for donkey breeding, donkey breeding will increase demand on donkeys, donkey feed, and in turn dates. All this could be predicted long ago and makes perfect sense without any reference to exchange value.

Yes I know and understand that exchange value is the single fixed variable, but I still don't understand how considering exchange value adds anything of value that can't be inferred from the arguing above.