Bahamarama strategies

I have been missing a thread to share our strategies for Bahamarama, so here goes



In the German forum, I read about a player getting almost 500 000 BEP daily from bahamarama and items on the shipwreck bay (using pets and some buffs). It made me see how great the colored pens are on bahamarama. So the last couple of baby boom days I have gotten some more of them. I have also made an overview of my daily BEP, excluding BEP from FSQs. I should be able to make approximately 100 000 BEP daily now

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Here is a breakdown of the BEP from harvesting. I have 6 owls, a dragon and a winged unicorn, these bonuses make a big difference as you can see from the table below. I usually don't use buffs like Easter marmalade. #H means number of harvests, #H D&U means number of harvests with dragon and unicorn pets activated. I try to activate the owls for every baha harvest.



As you can see, the upgraded pens by far give the most BEP per day per plot! I use valentines pot and church bouquet to be get two harvests a day for the red panda stalls and orange chopstick factories. Crops give approximately 5 BEP per hour per 1x1 (it varies a bit). I have calculated with growing crops 20 hours a day, because my longest crop is aloe vera (5:20), so I lose some time during the night. And I can't always harvest immediately when the crops are ready.

I don't think I want more panda stalls or chopstick factories, so I am hoping we get a new baha breeding animal next month. I don't want to use my golden bananas to open monkey breeding or camel breeding. If we get a new breeding animal, I will try and get some more upgraded pens. Next gift and trade, XXL baha trees will be on the top of my wishlist. Next moonlight mania I will try and finish the cloud row from the Jack's back quset, after that I will try to get a couple more Cerberus items. This is my plan for getting more BEPs

 

Mir,

You're not telling, but I guess you are lvl132 right now. If so, I guess you need about 400K B-EPs in avg to level up right now. This means, if I'm right and with your numbers, that you can level up every 4 days or so, that translate into around 35 GBs/month.

I don't know how many GBs monkey or camel breeding mean. But you may reconsider if you shouldn't use GBs for at least one of them if you take into account the massive push their coloured pens would represent, along with what the associated quests mean in B-EPs terms.

Additionally, bear in mind now bikinis and carpets have become really cheap. If you haven't finished those quests, there are loads of B-EPs there. I'm completing only now the carpet/chopstick quests through buys in mkt at rather cheap prices.

One of my main focuses lately is on B-EPs output optimization. I'm currently lvl234 and have 118 GBs in stock. I'm now holding off unlocking ginger, which would let me attack that quest, because of uncertainty regarding the Coral Reef thing and how many GBs will be needed. I don't know for how long I'll be able to refrain from unlocking it: between yesterday and today I finished both the green tea and the lemongrass quests. I'm running out of quests to boost Baha leveling up. But I guess I'll give in next week or so...., once I get to 123/128 GBs.

Currently, my daily B-EPs output avg (without considering completed quests' tasks and eaten artisan products) sits around 125/135K B-EPs -6 owls activated at every harvest, 2 crows once or twice a day, 1 unicorn twice a day-. Roughly, split in contribution is as follows:
* 30K from items in parks;
* 20/22K from clouds;
* 20/25K in avg from nFHOs (2 customers);
* 50/60K from Baha farming.

My coloured panda + camel pens (2 org chopstick factories, 2 org panda habitats, 1 org carpet factory, 3 org camel pens) are almost always out. They definitely mean the best space usage in Baha, along with XXLs. I usually don't use EM (but I lately do during events, like now) but I always use ZAB+CB: they make an obvious huge difference with crops -and higher level crops mean more B-EPs per plot-hr-. I sometimes use Tiki-timers, which also boost B-EPs/plot-hr yield on related crops. And, when I concentrate on animals/products farming, along with trees, I also run PAC, that doesn't affect B-EPs but increases output from trees and crops.

However, I'm now leveling up every 5 days or so (present level: 870K B-EPs, meaning around 160/180K B-EPs/day in avg). All the difference comes from eating artisan products + completing quests' tasks -the ones I still have-. The only way I found to achieve so while at the same time not harming -by misusing slots- the rest of the farm performance is, as always, market. There, I get loads of Red Punch, mainly, at less than 12K CCs/piece and some -not so many- Langos at less than 3,6K CCs/piece. Those are my ceilings for these artisan products.

Which in short means that the best way I could find, for me, to speed up Baha leveling up is making CCs from all activity -farming everywhere + mkt specific activity -(buying for reselling, etc.)- and using the proceeds to buy RPs+Langos.....LOL.

 

Thanks for your input Aluntino! I am indeed at level 132, but it is only around 210k BEP to level up. Just calculated, that with 100k BEP daily I will be getting an additional 80 GB this year. I already have 85 saved up.

Both monkey breeding and camel breeding are 20 GB, but I don't have camels yet, and not even anacondas, so it would take 63 GB to get camel breeding. I have completed the bikini quest, I am still selling off my chopsticks, but when the price drops a bit more I will start on the quest. I don't do permanent breeding quests (apart from the first three levels).

If we are not getting another baha breeding animal soon, I would consider getting monkey breeding. But if we get a new one in December it doesn't make much sense to get monkey breeding now. Even if I could the breeding animals to build colored stables for both the animals, the tools would be a problem. I can never get enough wood boards. Last BBD I build a red panda stall. Then I bought four dancing pandas, but I had to wait a week to get enough wood to build the orange chopstick factory. I still have 16 orange chickens waiting to move into orange chicken coops. So I would definitely prefer to focus on new upgrades. I expect there will soon be some rumors about which breeding animal is coming.

About the coral reef: The producer promised a new newsletter by the end of this month, and he hoped to give us a starting date for the reef

Is it possible to get colored monkey upgrades in G&T without having monkey breeding? Does anyone know? I can already buy the yellow and orange monkey stalls in the shop.

 

Inspiring... I'm at level 43 Bahamarama, and I'm sitting on 20 GB, which is killing me. I made the mistake early on of unlocking many items instead of unlocking page (or whatever they are called), so now I'm trying to get the rest of them open so I can open field 4. Soooo slowwwww!

 

It is very slow in the beginning But we seem to get a lot of BEP items and cloud rows now That definitely helps

 

I'm level 30 in Bahamarama and level 60 regular farm, what suggestions would you have? Open the chambers until I can unlock the whole island?

 

What have you opened so far?

 

Chamber 1 - All but 2 elephants (extra costumers)
Chamber 2 - Everything
Chamber 3 - Coconut only

I have 14gb

 

It is very good to get the whole island, but it might be a bit though starting so early. The longest growing crop you have now is pineapples 2:15. You could probably benefit from getting crops that take a bit longer.

Another thing is that when you reach level 70 on the farm, you can open the spa (if you have enough stars) and buy spa products in the market. That will really help with leveling up.

Personally, I think I would at least get the crops and trees from chamber 3 first. Then open chamber 4 and start thinking about saving up for the 4th field. Then you will a greater variety in crops/fruit to grow, which I think is both rewarding and less boring. Can't make a better argument now, getting tired, soon time for bed

Are you doing farmer society quests that give BEP? I would at least recommend doing the Opening gala I (as far as you can) and the bikini quest. One thing I would definitely recommend, no matter what else you choose to do: Open cassava for 5GB, then you will have all the trees and crops needed for opening gala step 3. There you will earn 45000 BEP, which is more than enough for leveling up, so you will get the 5GB back

There might be a new bahamarama breeding animal coming in December, I would keep 20-30 GB in reserve for that. If you can get some colored stables from the event breeding quest, that will help a lot

Any other opinions?

 

Thank you Mir

 

(Only for those who are not afraid of or reluctant to deal with maths)

Mir,

The other day I ended my comment saying that the best way I see to speed up leveling up in Baha is involving the whole farm into generating profits via mkt so that to buy cheap artisan products with the proceeds. (Since then, I leveled up again yesterday morning, now lvl235, 884K B-EPs to level up; as of this very moment I'm 609K B-EPs away from leveling up again and you must have already gotten 134/135).

What follows is some thinking of mine out loud, that I wanted to share just for you to consider for your own assessments:

I'm still convinced that's the most efficient way: profit generating afterwards converted into B-EPs via artisan products. But I've been thinking that this can be refined and, therefore, that I'm in need of a standard parameter to evaluate B-EP-yielding things, whatever they are, including B-EP-givers and nFHOs, so that to allow me to measure every opportunity with a single measuring unit. Especially those ones tough to assess.

So, I thought of transforming B-EPs to CCs via that single measuring parameter. I'm choosing Red Punch for that role: it costs me 9220 CCs now to make it if I disregard the virtual cost of herbal elixirs (I have 52K of them in stock, meaning it's OK to disregard it: I don't need to buy them with BBs), 10/12K CCs if I buy it from mkt (avg, around 11,6K CCs). So, if I use let's say 11K CCs, that's a fairly good conversion amount.

Hence, current 884K B-EPs to level up again would mean 589,33 RPs, or 6,483M CCs at my avg. Of course, I won't need that much: B-EP-givers and cloud rows are an already sunk cost. And what I plant, etc., doesn't have another cost than the cost of opportunity. Thus, that total is probably halved in reality.

Following this approach may help you (and me, and others) to simplify, for instance, assessment of nFHOs to fulfill. I typically skip orders that include pandas, sloths, camels and/or anacondas. But, if I can quickly figure out it'd yield more B-EPs for my CCs, then I should start fulfilling them.

An example: yesterday I skipped 1 nFHO that includes 10 camels, 100 lemongrasses, 25 mate fruit (LOL: non existent in RL) and 25 cocoa beans; it yields 9,45K B-EPs, no CCs. By using the RP standard --> 6,3 RPs --> approx 67K CCs. I could buy at least twice the needed stuff from mkt with those many CCs. So, I should fulfill it (I will after I finish this note).

Similarly, I can assess a flying carpet quest's task I completed yesterday: 48 carpets for 67K B-EPs +39K CCs --> 23 RPs --> 252K CCs - 39K CCs = 213K CCs net. But I bought those 48 carpets at 3K each on avg: less than 150K CCs --> 63K CCs of gain with which I could buy/make another 6 RPs that would mean 9K B-EPs more.

And I may assess a groovy flower that yields 900K B-EPs/day as saving me the equivalent of 6,5KCCs/day.

By quickly doing these calculations -I can do them on the fly: no calculation device needed- one can get to awesome conclusions and realize what to buy, what to sell, and, most importantly, what to produce, and even what a cloud row or a B-EP-giver is really worth.... It's also a rather simple way of defining how to maximize B-EPs output with a given set of resources at hand.

You may have probably already thought of using this kind of analysis. But it's new to me, after all this time.... LOL-.

 

Hi Aluntino I do this to some extent

My reference point is 5 CC/BEP, also derived from red punch:

5 CC/BEP*2500 BEP=12500 CC,​

and red punch is usually a bit more than that in my market.

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I use this to evaluate the FHO. By now I only do the calculations when I am in doubt. For instance, I know from experience that if an order is for two fruits, an animal and a crop (like your example above LOL) then it is always well worth it. If it is one crop, one animal and one fruit, I would make a rough calculation.

I even made an (incomplete) evaluation of the chestnut festival cloud row. I wanted to finish the event, but I also wanted to know if I was completely insane to buy all those breeding animals. So I made the following calculation:

At level 200 (I am at 134 now), the cloud row yields 200*45/4=2250 BEP per day.
Over a year, that amounts to 820k BEP, which would cost me 5*820k=4.1M CC if I were to buy 820k BEP worth of red punch.​

Since the breeding animals cost approximately that, I decided to happily continue with the event.​

Now, I don't want to decide everything I do this way. I am a firm believer in getting all the facts, assessing the situation as objectively as possible, then choosing the thing I want to do. This is a game, and it wouldn't be fun to me if I "couldn't" choose to do things just because I wanted to. (I am in no way implying that you have suggested something else, just explaining my philosophy.)

• I like to look at the rare stables, so I put them out (some of them, some of the time).
• I really like the colored upgrades, so I will spend millions of CC (when I can afford it), buying the animals needed to build them.
• I am growing pomegranate and pistachios for the magical wondering quest. It is not the most efficient thing to do, neither with respect to BEP nor CC. But I like it!

However, I do tend to make more and more decisions based on efficiency analysis. But when I do, I do it because I want to

 

I, too appreciate all the above advice. I am cautious about getting set on any one particular strategy, though. Prices vary a LOT, just as an example. And, when it comes to breeding, a lot depends on how much powerfeed you want to buy.

 

Now with the Coral Reef delayed until January at the earliest I am debating opening Chamber 8 to get at the Harbor Statue.
I have 43 GBs saved. I get 2 Langos every 30 hours or so, Chili Row, Comic Row, Cuckoo Row and nFHOs and about 25-28K BEPs a day +/-. I am doing the Quests with the BEPs as rewards.

Got any recommendations Aluntino or Mir ? Or other farmers... chime in.

 

Mir/woody,

There are no wrong ways of doing things, I cannot emphasize this enough. The important thing is to do what makes you happy.

I just shared above this "new" (to me) approach of mine because this is the Baha strategy thread.... LOL. For me, and that's the very reason why I play this game, optimizing as much as I can is what I drive more fun from. But that's my kind of cup of tea, I know it's not everyone's (which doesn't rule out that many occasionally choose to have tea with me... LOL).

Since I've just read the new Producer's Newsletter, and there'll be no Coral Reef on the horizon until at least January, then I'll unlock ginger right away when I get lvl236 later today (meaning I'll have 128 GBs in stock: it'll leave me with 96).

woody,

I agree. When it comes to breeding, in the end, all depends on how much PF a player is willing to buy. My experience tells that, in the case of Baha animals breeding, best overall results are achieved by only breeding plain animals (it's my experience in general but it is much more so for Baha animals). The reason is the generally high price of the 3/4 first bred animals levels, usually higher than for other animals. Whatever you get is OK and sometimes it comes with awesome skips. I know I never lose when I breed Baha animals. So, in strategy terms, this may mean that, with limited PF, it's preferable to breed Baha animals, sell the outcome and buy with the proceeds bred animals of other types (Farm's bred animals, for instance). It works really well for me.

Regarding prices, they do vary a lot, but CCs do not. I mean, 1 CC is always 1 CC (this game has not had devaluations, so far... LOL). What this means is that any player will then be able to apply profits to the most convenient thing at any moment: the most convenient, the cheapest, of that moment. It'll vary in time what's the most convenient thing to buy (or sell at higher prices). But that can only be figured out by often playing the mkts, all of them.

 

Banjo, my (very unqualified) guess is that there will be a statue for the reef behind the harbor statue. If that is the case, you will have to open the harbor statue first anyway.

Other things to consider: Do you have a lot of baha deco items? Do you have all the plants and crops for the first shipwreck bay quest?

 

Yes, I appreciate ALL of your suggestions (and those of other experienced posters). I did not mean to imply I was disagreeing. Mostly, its just that while these strategies are good overall, its important to more or less "check in" on the market and such before buying/selling, etc because things can change very quickly. not a Baha example, but just last week Roosters were selling for 3K on GOOD day. Now I am selling them for 17K or more. That's not predictable. I suspect the anomaly is due to the new quest and the price will sink back down shortly.

For breeding.. right now, with few exceptions, I wait until the special breeding days. I have not opened any Baha breeding abilities, but that is because I just "am not there yet". Panda breeding is going to be out of reach for some time, but I do plan to open the Monkey breeding soon.

 

I know And I really appreciate you sharing your strategies

 

woody,

I also ONLY breed during Baby Booms. I never do it in any other time, for no reason.

Banjoman,

I hadn't seen your entry, typed at the same time as my last one: with 43 GBs, I'd wait a bit more; however, you have Chamber8 still to be opened; I think it's a Chamber that must be opened as soon as possible -but then you'll need oodles of GBs for unlocking the most relevant items in there: Harbour, persimmon, and the 3 longer crops (cactus, hibiscus, coffee: these are really cheap in mkt, precisely, I think, because they're longer and many have already opened it; at the same time, these crops are much better B-EP yielders per plot per hr).

A couple of weeks ago I followed a link from the German forum Latein published and, after kind intervention of my German-speaking friend, Google Translator, I found there one entry from a player who, in short, said -I have no idea if he had any inside info- that he expected 35 GBs would be needed for unlocking something that may very well be what Mir suggests above and another 84 GBs in total for opening other additional features of Coral Reef.

So, it's more of a matter of choices than anything else, as with everything else in this game.

Try to boost your B-EPs output (what's your level? At mine, I need next to 900K B-EPs to level up, but at 130+ till 150 it's around 200K). I'd highly recommend you to make/buy RP for own consumption as a mad man (see my reference numbers above) and make/eat ChocoPck -if you have the recipe- (I don't know if you already have Spa at lvl3 for making your own MOS, but it should be added to the list). When it comes to buying these, Suzee gave a very good simple rule for assessing if to buy them or not, here.

 

Since the reef won't be here this year, I have decided to unlock yams and kumquats (34 GB in total). Then I can finish the second shipwreck bay quest and get some more space for my decos. With all the groovy daisies I won on the wheel, it is quite full there now