Wonder trees

When I saw in the grapevine that there would be packages for 30 wonder trees that gives the assurance of the latest addition of tree, I was happy and planned on purchasing a package.

Today's OA shows the purchase price of 210 BB.

Trees are normally 5 BB each so 31 trees is 155 BB which means the cost of the guarantee of getting the newest tree is 55 BB or the equivalent of 11 more trees.

I know the odds are random (I still do not have a blackthorn) but I haven't decided about the package because it is for both Mainland and Baha which is 420 BB and on the heels of the cloud row and cupig pet, that is a lot of BB.

I am usually really excited about new things coming to the farm but feel a little let down at the cost. I don't mind a small increase for the guarantee but 55 BB seems a little steep to me.

Thoughts?

 

I thought/hoped it would cost 150 BB

I usually don't buy that many seedlings, but for 150BB I would have bought a pack for bahamarama (want more XXLs), and maybe one on the farm too. I am still missing royal poinciana & tamarind on baha, and loquat & blackthorn on the farm. Will start with 20 seedlings on baha, and 10 on the farm. Might be tempted to buy a few more. But, I am definitely not paying 60BB for a new tree

It was rumored yesterday that the package would cost 210BB, so I decided that instead of paying 60BB for a tree I would buy the fountain and cannon on sale. Those are exceptionally good baha givers and their value is permanent. The value of the trees are temporary for me. Yes they are good CC earners in the beginning, but after a while the fruit will be cheaper, and it will be possible to get them during G&T.

 

You'd be better off spending the 210 BBs on 42 trees and hoping you get at least one of the newest trees.


EDIT: Every time the survey comes up in the cinema, I keep saying that the prices do not reflect the proper value in the game. Does anyone listen? It's like they do the opposite of whatever we tell them we would like.

 

I agree the odds are stacked against you in getting a guaranteed new tree if people only want to buy 5-10 trees individually.
I suppose that is what BP want us is to is to spend real money on buying BB's so we buy the tree packages on offer.
Obviously it is up to each and every one of us as to what you want to do, but if no one buys the packages then BP will hopefully rethink the 'pricing structure' as it seems rather a lot to pay.
As Black says 'you are better spending 210 BB's on 42 trees' and seeing what you get.

 

I think I'll hedge my bets on getting more trees for my BBs - after all if it doesn't pay off, there's always the train!

 

Is this their way of saying they will be so rare our best chance is to buy the package?
That is quite a large price increase.

 

Yahoo ! we are getting new trees !
Oh wait - there are whopping great fees.
Big point wants us to spend if you please
Each guarantee costs us 60 BB s

I feel I am stuck on a Spendmill; BP
You know that we must have every tree
But an arm and a leg is a really big fee
well that is the way it does seem to me...
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david, you should post this in the feedback thread as well

 

After much consideration I have decided that I never win anything meaningful when I want it; so No thank you.
I will not participate...

 

I agree with all said before regarding the steepness of the price increase for just guaranteeing the new trees, but I think the real problem is what the odds of these new trees are going to be for the non-packaged seedlings.

I bet they will lower these odds. So, my guess is they aim at the following, knowingly as BP is of how impatience and anxiousness defines the actions of too many players: many will act as "rebels" at first and, when unable to get the new trees due to the (I say I bet) lowered odds, they will also buy the new packages to be sure they'll get them........ More unhappy customers that will anyway spend more BBs (a dangerous combination, if they cared anything about customer satisfaction).

But, since the only way to counter this kind of deceiving advantages they come up with from time to time is to not avail/encourage them with our purchases, those impatient/anxious players should ask themselves if they need those B-EPs from trees so badly or if that can wait till odds of these newest trees are increased in future seedling editions.

I know my own answer: it can wait; it will.

By the way, just 1 EM + 1 SRJ will give 30% more B-EPs from my Baha trees for almost the same 12 hours while, at the same time, giving me 50% more B-EPs from everything else + 50% EPs on everything everywhere in the farm.

 

DAVIDb1, I just love your poetry! What you said hits it right on the head!! Like all of these comments, I, also, am tired of being squeezed dry of BB's. I, also, passed on the Cupig, and I have decided to pass on anything that costs over 200 BB's....maybe even 150 or less than that. David, you named it well - this is becoming no longer Farmerama, but Spendmill City!

BP, I hope you are listening this time - before you lose your loyal customer base. You know we love this game. Please don't keep taking advantage of that by squeezing us too hard.

 

Here's the BP logic - they priced both the Gold leaf and Mirabelle at 55BB each in the shop, so assume most players will pay 55bb to get a guaranteed brand new rare tree; especially as the 'flowers' are required in the new quest. Even a Chestnut costs 60BB, though I would think any players who've been around for more than a couple of years would have at least 20 of each of the above (I have over 60 of each of them). I was playing long before they introduced the rare trees; I remember getting my first Peach tree from the wheel, the only place you could get it then, I was so thrilled.

This skewed thinking by the developers; the correlation equates to causation effect, which often confuses people who aren't used to logical thinking, rarely stands up to close examination.

However, it is the pack price set at 210BBs that is the sticker; I think if they had set it at three pack sizes - as they do for most sales - plus guaranteed new rare one for 100, 150 and 200BBs (XXtrees plus 50BB for the rare one) - most people would be fairly happy. Unfortunately, I think enough players will buy the packs to justify the BP developers' belief they got it right.

I have watched this game develop from its start, and have often wondered why the Powers That Be haven't kept a time line to be accessed by players, so they could see how it's progressed. Manure used to keep the fields safe from storms, which otherwise randomly damaged fields and crops, which you then had to 'dig' up. Or the fact that Baha had its own currency which was worth 10x the farm ccs and a separate market; to get to the island, you had to pay for flight hours, until you had enough to get to the island. There was an airport in the city, before it was torn down and rebuilt (the city that is). Or that you needed to keep a minimum of 12 friends, just to stop your meadow turning to weeds.



Ohhh well, back to the present - and my pondering on whether I am prepared to pay for a pack of trees.

 

With real life well I mean 'work',
By the time I get finished which may be 6 hours after event starts hopefully there will be feedback as to what people have done.
Also if others receive the new trees without buying the packages?????!!!!

 

210 BBs for each new package is too rich for my blood. I'll take my chances on buying a few of each and see what I get. Very disappointing that BP would think it's acceptable to set the cost that high.

 

Okay...don't throw stuff at me. .........I do remember, in the past, a few players saying or suggesting that they wished BP would do a guarantee package of trees to get the "new" tree. There was grumbling of how much they had spent........and still no "new" tree.
I do agree, however,... that the package price is pretty high...but many of us have spent more(be honest) and not had very good results....remember the catalpas???

BP could now be called "Big Pockets" LOL....I hope they adjust this new tree package as to make it a bit more reasonable. I haven't decided what I will do yet. I'm still on the fence with this....but will probably try a few rounds to see how the results are. I hope Aluntino isn't right(but he usually is).

 

But, throwing stuff sounds so much fun

*Pondering what to throw*

A bread roll perhaps? no, that's a bit mean

What about a cherry cheesecake? No, isn't a pie more appropriate?

Yes A pinkie pie pie it is

*Goes to find a pinkie pie pie to throw at Brooke*

 

Yes, Brooke, but that's exactly my whole point: many of us (I included) have spent too much in seedlings in search for new trees -though besides they always had (at least for me) the side good effect of building up a formidable XXLs base-, but that's only true for those of us who typically buy more than 30 seedlings every time they introduce a new tree; it's not for those who buy less than that.

So, with their new "guaranteed" result package, I'm suspicious that they'll lower the odds of getting the new trees for those who choose to give a go to any number of seedlings, regardless of the quantity, which for many can be as low as 2 or 5.

If that's what they'll do (and I also hope my suspicions to be proved wrong; otherwise, my trust will be eroded even further), then I won't be one of those to validate it. I can certainly wait for the meagre additional B-EPs the cloud row will yield (additionally, trees are the worst B-EP yielding items by definition; any space is better used with coloured pens or crops -though I have many of them anyway-).

I won't buy their packages (and that doesn't mean I'll necessarily spend less). It's their reaping bundles strategy that I'm specifically and militantly rejecting.

But I know many will give in and will buy them.

 

Brooke, I know I know and if the deal had been a little bit better (maybe 190 BB) I wouldn't have complained. I am not complaining much anyway: This way I am not tempted, and will save some money

Aluntino, I prefer to be optimistic until proven wrong

 

These Wonder Tree Events are becoming Wonderfully Expensive. It is Quiet Steep to be asking 210 BB for 30 Secret Seedings plus A Brand New Rare Tree.

The Kowhai and Amherstia Trees are the Two New Rare Trees which are needed for What a Relief Quest as we need 600 of Each to Unlock the Cloud Row that gives 20% More Bahm EP on all Trees on the Island

Some of us may not want to have as many as 30 Seedings for the Island or The Mainland. As The Alternative to is Buy couple of Seedings for 5BB each hope we get very Luck to get these new rare trees.

Or if you really Patience you can wait until the Barter and Gift event and can do Trades for These Rare Trees, without the need to spend BB.

Or for Farmers who are rich in CC can complete What a Relief Quest without even owning an Kowhai or Amherstia. Even if you do have one or few of these it takes a while to get 600 fruits of each anyway. But Spending CC can build up your stocks to complete quests Quicker this way but at a price of your CC Barn. Therefore no need to cost you and arm or leg in BB to Achieve this.

My Advise is to switch off your FOCD, save your BB and get them in more sensible way or just do sensible shop of BB at your Peril as many of us not always get what we would like to have.

I might just spend some BB on Island Secret Seedings as I cant get enough island XXL trees plus Bahm EP from all these island Trees is Great help as this new cloud row allow us to enhanced more EP we get from Bahm Trees, as we already got couple cloud rows that also help boost bahm Tree EPs too plus the use of Buffs and Pets on top of that too

Barter and Gift is a Wonderful Event to build up stock of many rare trees, Luck i got few a few in my barn that i did not trade them into the Transatlantic Express Train thanks to this New Quest some old rare trees fruits is wanted again will be making the most of it

 

Putting things in perspective: the other day I bought the mill boosting cloud row for 190 BBs. I've just launched the milling of 17 PFs, to be ready in 51 hours from now (I also always hire the mill subscription). That's real value. Ideally, I could thus mill around 240/250 PFs/month, with the only recurring cost of a monthly investment of 75 BBs. (Compare that with the large PF pkg, at 249 BBs and 375 PFs).

It's true that I may buy the seedlings packages if they cost let's say 180 BBs tops. But 210 is too much and something I won't encourage if it comes true that the odds of the newest trees are lowered for those not buying their bundle.

Anyway, I agree: let's see if that's what will really happen.