Stars

Now, Here is the thing...... I have worked out how many stars I can get from completing the normal quests available. These include the stars which I would get when levelling up in the crafting trades as well. From completing them all I would get a grand total of another 278 stars. I have two reindeer pets which give one star a week each and a cloud row which gives one star a week. I can’t remember the last time Fuzzles gave me a star! However, I need 2015 stars to finish opening all the runes on the tree of wisdom and I have 574 stars saved up and have used 4835 stars so far. I am level 93 and have been playing now for about 3 years. During this time I have rarely missed an event or not completed one. So, In order to finish opening the remaining runes available now, I would need another 1163 stars .... assuming that I level up 3 times a year...if I am lucky, and harvest my cloud row and reindeer pets religiously every week then it will take me over 19 years to open all the current runes. How on earth are new or recently new players supposed to collect these stars having not benefited from the stars given out during events just in the last two years? Are BP now going to start asking for BB’s or real money for stars? If that is going to be the case, then I see no point in continuing a game with a section that I am never ever going to complete. The figures just do not add up at all... Two new quests introduced, no stars offered, and even if they were there would be a maximum of 120 available yet the tree of wisdom runes for the chameleon ask for 155 stars !!! The statement that players should with a little effort manage to get all the stars needed to unlock everything is incorrect or at the least should be clarified. Am I missing something here?

 

I think they are aware of this problem and working on finding a solution

I read this as describing how it should be (how they want it to be), not how it is right now.

 

I hope you are right Mir...I understood it differently. I am trying not to worry yet until we get more definite info. I do not wish to open every rune on the tree but with the the additional statement in the OA saying that they are also developing ways for higher players with unused stars to expand the runes of the Tree of Wisdom indicates to me that all players will ultimately want to open those runes too (depending on what the rune does but would only assume it will be very attractive; otherwise, players with surplus stars will not open it either), thereby making lower level players or players who do not have enough stars to still need stars from events. I guess I don't get why they need to be removed from events. Maybe I need more caffeine....

A lot of stars just represents long time play...just like fully stocked barns, all crops/trees/animals opened, quests finished, high EP, artisan village/recipes at level 5....my point is that I am not sure why BP feels it is necessary to balance star accumulation by removing them from events...again maybe just need more caffeine.

I am in favor of expanding the tree, as well as remaining optimistic about what the producer plans for our GB. I am sure there was a thread somewhere about suggestions as to what to do with excess stars but that is not the intent of this thread so will just wait for further clarification.

 

I see what you mean, but the point I am trying to make is that over the last couple of years I have earned quite a few stars from events and yet am still a long way from unlocking quite a few runes. Having said that, it is not essential to have them all unlocked, it really is just a matter of choice.... but those blank little boxes do irritate me...LOL My main concern is what mechanism BP will introduce to make these stars available if it is not in events. I really would not want to buy the stars with BB's or real money. They had already stated there would be no more stars in permanent quests, which I understand they have now changed again, although it would be nice to see that confirmed by adding them to the chameleon permanent quests. So just where did they plan on us getting these stars if not in events and permanent quests?

 

With events occurring every week, I see 'star gathering' to take quite a while since the permanent quests are long term projects that are frequently interrupted with events (yes I know you have the choice to do events). I think stars will still be available with permanent quests and hopefully BP will change their mind before they release the new chameleon quests. But as you say, even with completing the quests, there is still a star deficit when considering opening the 2 new runes.

 

As a player who's relatively new (joined in November last year) I really hope we'll have a lot more chances to earn stars. Like PnP already said, many quests are long term fulfiling quests (think about the Cooking Pot quest, etc). I have a LOT more quests to finish, but also a lot more runes to open up in the Tree. I really hope BP finds a good solution for those who can't get enough stars at the moment (without stars in the events anymore) to open up all runes. Maybe it's COD-like thing but in the end I'd like to have all the Runes in the Tree opened up, including those that will be introduced to players who now have a large batch of stars and nothing to do with them.

Good luck everyone!

 

I agree with what you have been saying about stars. I am disappointed that the events will no longer have stars. Without event stars, the events seem to have less value especially when you consider the shuffling of fields and strategies to gear up for an event and reshuffling after the event. For me the events have always been an opportunity to improve my game and stars have been a big part of that opportunity. I have always had a star deficit. Right now the changes to the event stars seems to make a considerable star deficit. For right now O think I will hoard the stars I have until the new BP star strategy is clearer

 

I just keep thinking over 19 years !!! .... Lol, I will be six feet under or suffering from senile dementia by then ... in either case it will matter no more... Perhaps they will use the new coral reef to get stars? That would be good

 

I agree. Think that it is a mistake getting rid of the stars. I am level 95 & do have quite a few of them but I have lower level neighbours that are having difficulties. When I first started playing the game the only reason that I did events was to get those stars. Now newer players will not have that option. I cannot imagine how difficult it would be if I was just starting a farm. It would take forever to open the glade & Bahamarama. Really think that BP has to re-think this.

 

Hi!

Just wanted to add my 2cents. I started playing last April, and have opened about half of the runes at this point. This is after participating in EVERY star-giving event quest and completing as many levels of each one as possible. I've used 2050 stars, and currently have 18 stocked up. I've been slowly working on the FSQs as well, but without the stars from the event quests I very much doubt that I'll be able to open the rest of the runes quickly enough (or steadily enough) to keep me interested in the game in general. I don't know how newer players (particularly those who join from this point forward) are going to get any runes open in a reasonable time frame.

-cpeterson

 

This is my baby farm and I feel a bit cheated when it comes to the stars. For me they were one of the highlights with events on my high lvl and definitely a big help. Yet I'm nowhere near having unlocked all or even most runes over there either. Between FSQs, events and harvesting for market, there's never enough time it seems. We'll see what happens though.

 

Recently, I unlocked all the runes, I was holding onto 450 stars, and based on advice by Mir85, I was encouraged and opened the last rune (LL rune) which I was delaying until I am done with the animal trophy, so there was 150 stars balance, this morning I opened a new rune for the chameleon breeding package, and went to open the other new rune, I find I was short of 5 stars, I checked FSQ to see if there is any quest to finish and get the stars, I managed to get 2 only, sadly all the other quests remaining, are the long ones and need a lot of work, so for the first time I felt like I am naked, it is not easy any more to get stars which made me think, I am playing 2 other games by big point, and a sort of connection came to my mind (I am not going to name the games here, but if somebody is interested I shall give them by IGM), so if you play other games by BP you should notice that there is more than 2 game currency other than the normal one in this case here it is CC, the other currencies there are necessary to be able to level up or upgrade items and those have to be purchased with real money, the games throw little at you for completing quests and stuff, but it is never enough, to be able to play, you must purchase, other wise it will take you for ever to be a decent player to be able to stand up for the games challenge, so my mind is telling me now yes, the stars is the other hard currency that BP used to throw at us free and abundantly, but no more, be prepared to see star packages coming soon to the game, and don't worry, there will be stars for doing quest, but fewer and fewer, and farmerama is the biggest and most successful game by bp, but the income is low compared to the other games and they have to think of a way to make money to be able to maintain the servers and pay salaries.

@kmellish, I have been playing for three years like you, I am level 91 and soon 92, I have the cloud raw that gives 1 star every week, and one reindeer that gives a star and you have 2, For the last 2 years I had completed all the events and did not miss any at the rate of 2 to 3 events per month that's gives 36 stars so it is about 108 stars monthly from events only (for average) other than FSQs and the cloud raw, the pet and leveling, I managed to accomplish the number of 6315 stars, and I have 73 stars now, with 1 rune to open (75 stars), in compare to what you said above, I see the difference is very big, I think you have been missing a lot.

 

Hi!
Now isn't that just lovely. If we do start having to pay for stars, I can see my interest (and paying) in this game is going to have a very finite life span. I hope you're wrong about where this is going, abubadi66.

-cpeterson

 

This is my main concern, longer playing ‘players’ who have completed events, worked hard and justifiably earned the stars have an excess, therefore new runes need to be added to keep their interest which is quite fair and the right thing to do. I also suspect that these players are in the minority now as well given the popularity of the game. I have been playing for about 3 years, have entered and completed most events and yet still have a substantial shortfall of stars despite completing most of the permanent quests as well.

I do enjoy a challenge but the goalposts have been moved now. It is the mechanism that BP might use for people to obtain this shortfall that worries me. In the last six months there has been more emphasis on spending real money... larger power feed packs, increased mini events such as mill subscription, more breeding events etc. I do spend real money on this game, but try to keep it to the minimum ... and also try to avoid my husband finding out..LOL.... thank goodness he never looks at the credit card bills!! But the following statement in the O/A worries me

For lower level players and players who does not have enough stars, we are looking into ways to grant access to enough of them so the tree runes can be all unlocked;

Any way BP comes up with will have to be open to all players, both high and low level. Which will be no different to the previous system of events rewarding with stars. A choice of doing the event or spending real money/BB’s to complete

Therefore, I agree with abubadi, more real money or BB’s will be required. Also, abubadi, I agree I might have missed some events.... I am a shepherds wife and ‘lambing’ must take precedence, so everything in my life away from the real farm during April and most of May does go on hold...LOL .. but this will also be the case for most players as they will also have reasons and other commitments that prevent them from entering and/or completing events .... Time I retired to the sofa and computer permanently I think...

 

I have been around for less than a year, and have earned and used just over 2500 stars. (I don't save stars). Based on what you say, you already have enough stars to complete the whole tree. I can see where it would be difficult, but I am not sure why it is a big problem?

that is, I certainly hope they keep giving starts (haven't even read the announcement yet.. and I have to go to work now), but I guess it does not seem as if it is impact you?

 

Woody, I am happy to send you and anyone else who wants them, via igm, the figures and names of the quests which I still need to complete and the figures and names of the runes which I still need to open if you wish. But I assure you, a thousand stars may sound a lot, but the stars required for those runes just add up, I was even shocked when I worked it out and I am confident that my figures .... give one or two to allow for coffee withdrawal ... are correct and I do not, by quite a margin, have enough to open all.

In the first 18 months of playing this game, some of the permanent quests offer 'easy' (in hindsight) stars to get, but it does get a lot harder.

If it means spending real money or BB's to get the remaining stars it will have an impact on myself as well as many others. The point of the start of this thread was to point out that new or recently new players may struggle to get these stars which have been more readily available to longer playing people and I feel that it is not fair to them. At the same time, I do not wish to upset the players who have worked hard and made the time to participate in the endless growing of event crops in order to gain these stars.

As a 'community' we should all be looking for a strategy, if available, to minimize this impact and select the essential runes to open.

 

In the 'early' days when I started playing, I often did as much as I could of events just to get the stars. They were a big item in my decision on whether or not to do an event. I knew I could not finish but a handful of stars were very useful. How are newer players going to manage? Also, there are so many quests in the Farmer's Society in a not very useful order (I expect someone will tell me I can re-sort them?) The older, easier quests should be at the start so Newbies can get those stars. Even I find it daunting now. Some of the newer quests are set to give only one star per level, whereas the older quests were brokendown into Silver, Gold, Platinum and gave 6 stars.

 

Hi Kemllish, This is a Good Posting to Raise Points about Earning Stars....I have been playing this Game almost 4 Years Now.

When the First Set of Farm Society Quests Came out The Stars you can Earn. Also doing Events was not Tiered such as Silver, Gold or Diamond. You Could not Skip a Level for Farm Society Quest nor Events. It a Way it kind on Encourge Each Farmer to Try their Upmost Best to Do Events and Quests Providing they got the Barn Stocks to Fill these orders.

Doing Products Quests was much harder back then there was no Product Trees and Was Harder to Make CC too, for Long Time Players is very Easy to do this as they got all these Trees to help complete this Early Product Quests. On The Wisdom Tree there was not alot or Runes to Unlock. As Cloud Rows and Crafting Runes was added a bit later, this Led to More Demand of Stars.

So Farmer Quests and Event Enchanced to Reap in more Stars by a New Layout of Silver, Gold or Diamond. Each Farmer had an Option to do just or Part of these new quests or Events. The Living Legend Rune was the most sought after rune but cost 300 Stars.

Also to need to mention couple of years ago we had more quests to do but there is slight slow down of quests creating a problem for High Level Farmer to get new stars. But for a Newbie would be a vast range of Farmer Society Quests to Complete, But one thing They have Missed out or did not do many Events giving you lots of Stars to Help Unlock Runes on the Glade Tree. They have miss out on Events where is could win additional Stars such as Octoberfest of 2011 Where you could win upto 200 Stars. Or did the Recycle Mat Type Event which give out random rewards such as Stars.

We did have at Least Two Events, which I did that you was able to Redo the Whole Event doubling or Event Triple the Amounts of Stars you earn. They gave you an Option of 25 BB to Redo that Event. I think I got Well over 100 Stars doing this In my Opinions these kinds of Events was more fun to do and much less expensive to complete most of the Time

I had 3297 Stars in my Barn Before Chameleon Breeding Started i did used 75 Stars to unlock Officer Chameleon Rune which I sold for 750K so that is 75000 CC Per Star. The Reason why i got these many Stars i was very sensible. Also I am Strategist Playing this Game that I did not unlock many Runes that was not Worth Unlocking. Such as Unlocking runes to speed up levelling up a Artisan Crafting such as Baker or Confectionary or Florist.

For The Florist you could eat as Many Wedding Products as you can Craft or Buy from the Markets to Eat to boost Florist Points This was not restricted to eating 5 Crafts per Day. For The Baker Thanks to Pinkie Pie Pie which gives you 270 Baker Points at 5 Per Day they was very cheap to buy and Eat Them. For The Confectionary Loads of Traditional Chutneys was needed to Make CAC so I Made loads of them.

Each Craft requires upto 400 Stars consisting of 5 stages of 60,70,80,90 and 100 Stars I only unlocked just a few of them Left most of them Locked and Saved my stars.

AT first Bahamarama could be unlock using Air Miles System which can be unlock without Stars, Then they change Bahmarama Currency to CC. Then Bahamarama had to be unlock for 150 Stars then later reduce this down to 50 Stars.

I have now 3222 Stars. So Far have used 3680 Stars. I still have Many Farmer Society Quests that not yet completed many of them are Breeding Quests would say i have another 200 Plus Stars to Unlock.

We can Gets Additional Stars from

• Woolly WoodenTops Daily Giver
• Doing Refinements
• Farmer Wheel
• Flying Reindeer Pet
• Cloud Row
• Levelling up the Farm
• Levelliing up an Artisan Craft either Baker,Confectionary, Florist, Spa Manager or Alchemist
• Rent a Friend

It is very Stupid that Bigpoint Changed the Way we Earn Stars. From High Level Farmer Perspective some of them cannot get Enough Stars to Unlock Existing Unlocked Runes not to mention New Runes to unlock. Therefore is unable to Gain Stars which is an Incentive to do quests or events this way

It is Also the same Incentive for Newbies too to gain as Many Stars as they can, Although they was not around when they could have earned more stars. I think it is very unfair that Farmer have to spend RL Money or BB to gain Stars

For Me have worked my Socks off for Almost 4 years to get over 3222 Surplus Stars. I am glad i did not unlock Runes that has no use to me. I would be more than Happy to give out my surplus Stars to those Needy Farmers

To Bigpoint for Being Daft for Removing Stars Incentives to All Farmers who have worked hard or is trying there best.....Where is logic in that HUH !!!

 

I feel a bit stuck on the tree right now. Most of the easier quests are done in the Farmer's Society, quite some need stuff on Baha I cannot even dream about unlocking in the forseeable future and the rest are breeding & product quests ... And of course that anouncement came just shortly I decided to spend 150 stars for the Alchemist to be able to collect some mandrakes in case they get to redesign that too ... *cannot stop to facepalm*

 

I'm not sure it is good or bad deals...
Doing event quest is no longer to earn some stars, so I am going to do OLD SCHOOL STYLE.. That means to do alot of Refinements again, hoping a star from each time..

Looking for a strategy for new tree runes...!!