What to do with legacy cuckoos

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  1. SillyGuy

    SillyGuy Forum Veteran

    Guys, I agreed with farmer_broke.

    I'm going to be careful for them. Yes, these little critters are the hottest spot for now. People are selling and buying them through the market. Supply and demand are creating in here that I called for Domino Effects for their ingredients (angel's trumpet and crop circle).
    People are going to grow catalpa trees and crop circles now and they will flood the market. There will be push the price down in few days later.

    For someone like me who likes to buy many "junks" in a huge number, it is not to suppress the price rise. But rather to build the barn and gain some strengths in regulating the balance of the market. (read my posts in market bargain thread !!)
    I asked pnp a question for how many coins that she will pay to each be. It's purpose is to give the sense that everyone understands what is good and bad side what you do now.

    Also, I'll get massive profit later. To make it clear, I'll explain a little.
    Say I have 100,000 cuckoos, 100,000 its feeds, 100,000 trumpets, and 100,000 crop circles in my barn now. I take advantages 10-20 CCs for each part. It means I would have extra 4,000,000-8,000,00 CCs in the future.
    But I'm afraid that the price of cuckoos willl not exceed their exchange value.

    Once again: PLEASE CAUTION!
     
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  2. puppiesnponies

    puppiesnponies Living Forum Legend

    The purpose behind my acquiring cuckoos below their EV is for animal donation requirements-- not a specific animal but for the XX CC requirement we sometimes have. They may not exceed their value but with cuckoo breeding still coming to the farm, I do think it is likely they will raise from where they are now.
     
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  3. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    It's useless, in my opinion, to start a discussion on whether cuckoos will exceed their EV in mkt or not, just because of what puppiesnponies has just posted and what I explained yesterday: there's currently no other animal available in mkt with a CCs/EV ratio as good as this, due to the pressure on plain and bred animals of absolutely all kinds, renewed more or less fortnightly with a new thing. It makes cuckoos the best bet to upgrade the animal trophy, unmatched, for now. I yesterday bought about 1K of them at 70CCs each --> <0,50 CCs/EV ratio. I'll continue to buy them.

    I reckon this cuckoo flood is like oil. It'll eventually run out. At 8 cuckoos per moustache, and yet unforeseeable future demand for both moustaches and cuckoos that will be created for sure by developers, the flood won't last forever. Besides, though cuckoo pens do not take too long, pressure on its feed and the ingredients to make it (and their prices, then) is almost guaranteed to appear once the flood runs out, precisely because the pens don't take too long (higher feed demand per day, so to speak). By the same token, when this happens -it will-, cuckoos' price will increase, also for sure. How much? I now bet that well beyond their EV. But even if they don't, or if they do many many months from now, if a player plans to make moustaches, then the time to stock up is while the flood is still high: now and the coming weeks.

    It's pretty much like what happened with pheromones: while there were huge stocks, price was low. Once these ran out, and most scented trees also disappered via donations to the train, etc., price went up, permanently, due to continued demand pressure via the much increased demand of bred animals through quests and events.
     
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  4. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Good points Aluntino :) So many of the "free" cuckoos are now being put into the trophies, I used all mine, plus some more.

    And if we look at the ingredients of feed, 5 crop circles and two angel trumpet should be worth around 300 cc, at non inflated prices.
     
  5. tpabird

    tpabird Active Author

    I agree with Mir that Aluntino makes some good points. However, I traded many of mine in for upgrades to the trophy. For me I have been struggling with each event to get the number of drop items and upgrading the trophy was more important that keeping barn-full of cuckoos for their value down the line. There are always multiple strategies that can be weighed for any decision in the game. I think that is what keeps it interesting.
     
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  6. wolfeyesone

    wolfeyesone Forum Veteran

    While I do agree with many points mentioned, I am like minded with PnP.
    I think their value will increase.
    How much, unknown until the needed demand is shown, as some still will not bother with them.
    Plan to continue obtaining cuckoo's as long as their price stays under 100. With the trophies now completed, my intent is not to resell, rather to keep restocking the barn for future use. I do like breeding. The cuckoo's stables rewarded, will not set foot on my fields wasting precious space, feed and crops. The crops and /or feed I will turn to pay for the cuckoo's being obtained.
     
  7. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    The point is if cuckoos will exceed in the future current price, regardless of if the level will exceed EV or not.

    In my opinion, they will, beyond any doubts.

    For those buying them for upgrading the trophy (I'm one of them till I finish level15; halfway now), it's convenient.

    For those buying them for future donation in animals-EV-requesting events and quests, it's convenient.

    For those buying them for future use as raw material for producing moustaches, it's convenient.

    For those buying them for future resale, since price will increase for sure, it's convenient.

    It's convenient for every single kind of buyer (I'm a mix of all of them).

    So, what's to be doubted?
     
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  8. LilJenna

    LilJenna Someday Author

    I think I should buy cuckoo's when I have money then.
     
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  9. JJenks

    JJenks Forum Ambassador

    Jenna, As your trophy is still low Cuckoos are an excellent choice right now to level it up. It's actually a unique situation and if you can get the CC's I would try ;)
     
  10. Banjoman

    Banjoman Forum Ambassador

    I've managed to raise my Trophy to 29 percent because of the Cuckoo selling frenzy. That is 3 levels today.
    32,000 more Cuckoo's and I can have it Maxed out.
     
  11. chookie

    chookie Exceptional Talent

    I also just maxed out my animal trophy thanks to the cuckoos. I now have no cc's so am busy selling chickens, wheat and poop!
     
  12. Banjoman

    Banjoman Forum Ambassador

    Well... its 30 out of 30 for me !!!!
    No excuse for not having enough drops !
     
  13. SuzeeRabbit

    SuzeeRabbit Old Hand

    I didn't have a lot of cuckoos. Only 10k. lol
    But since the workshop takes 8 per I've been buying them. All the good reasons have already been listed.

    When I had only been playing a month or so, one of my neighbors pointed out to me to use dates to upgrade my trophy. And the importance of trophies. Dates were cheap then.

    Equivalent Value:
    This seems to be another translation issue. Or it could be another dev issue. I don't understand German and have chosen not to invest my time on non-English websites.
    I think a better term would be Exchange Value. The number is the credit we get for donations to FSQs and some events. Part of the problem is that some of the FSQs, as my fuzzy memory recalls, and FAQs for events will request X-number of CCs donated for credit, for instance 60,000CCs. CCs are the Market term. What they really mean is the EV. We donate a cuckoo and get 153 points, or is 158, EV credit toward that challenge. We might pay 100CCs or 1,000CCs for that cuckoo, NOT 153. For the math challenged... the less we pay for each cuckoo the better the value. We get 10 times as much value from the 100CC cuckoos than from 1,000CC cuckoo.
    Also, equivalent to what? The numbers are somewhat arbitrary numbers. I think that is part of the confusion for some people. Sorta like the number on playing cards. It only has meaning because the game designers have assigned it meaning. The numbers do figure into the math algorithms of the game. Sometimes.

    The EV really has nothing to do with CCs or EP or... moon phase... ;)
     
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  14. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Suzee, the term is exchange value ;)
     
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  15. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    For Me Buying Cuckoos From The Markets Makes More Sense, While The Cuckoos Prices is Low. And The CC Price is Lower than the Exchange Value. As I Always Buy Many Things in the Markets that sells for well below Exchanged Values. I am One of those Farmers Who made it into Top 1000 in Hoedown Festival last year.

    The Reason Why it Make Sense to Buy Cuckoos From the Markets that you have no need to Grow Cuckoos using Cuckoos Coop Pens, right now it would be very expensive to do as Cuckoos Feeds is selling as High as 750 to 800 cc Per Cuckoos Feed As you would need to use one cuckoo Feed per Cuckoo Coop Pen and Wait for 1 Hour and 25 Mins for it to be harvested.

    If you Manure Stock is maxed out at 300 Storage Capacity. All Excessive Manure would be wasted During Comic 8 Event was selling up to 400 CC for Manure.

    I Dont think that i will be using Cuckoo Coops for some Considerable Time !!!. Due to fact have very very well Stock Barn of Cuckoos. I know for a Fact Once an Influx of flogging Cheap Cuckoos Starts to Slow Down when many farmers have been selling surplus Cuckoos into the Markets. As it does require 8 Cuckoos to Make Golden Moustache. As Aluntino quiet rightly said there are several reasons that the price will go up in near future without a shadow of doubt it will be over the EV of 153....

    One of Reason Why Phermones have gone up alot in Price. It is very Hard to Grow Phermones using Scented Trees. As More of us Now Longer have these Trees. Therefore becoming Rarer in the markets.

    But with Cuckoos it might not happen same way with Phermones. Since We will be able to Buy Cuckoos Coop Pens from the Stores

    Some of you Talked about Buying Cuckoos to Max out The Animal Trophy my Animal Trophy as been sitting at 14% for about Three Years. As it asking a insane about of Animals in requires to Max out at 15%. So I have been buying Cuckoos from the Markets for under 100 CC each to Max out My Animal Trophy that my Old FOCD Thing Done and Dusted at Last LOL :D It Cost me just over 1 Million CC to Do this. I can always Get Back the Millions of CC Spent Buying Cuckoos

    I have Plenty of Cuckoo Feeds and Cuckoos to Make Golden Moustaches. But it is much harder for me and many of you to Make Bio Glue. To Work on Bio Glue Quest. So I am Happy to Make Golden Moustaches it be much quick to grow than Bio Glue too.

    I am Working my Way towards my Next 100,000 Stock of Cuckoos LOL as it getting harder with the slowdown of Cuckoos in My Market.

    There is Cuckoo Cloud Row that Helps Reduce Breeding Time by 20% for 12 Hours This Would save me alot of Phermones During Breeding As I am Waiting to unlock this When Cuckoos Quests Becomes permanent real soon ;)
     
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  16. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Mooboy, the cuckoo cloud row gives BEP only.

    It is the cookie wonderland cloud row that reduces breeding time :)
    (The pictures in the FAQ somehow got replaced by the birthday event pictures, son't let it confuse you :p)
     
  17. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    It The Cookie wonderland Cloud row i was Refering too as I need the Cookie Bakery Item to unlock that cloud row to speed up the Breeding Time.

    Cuckoo Cloud Row is not a very Good Bahm EP Giver Plus it is expensive to get the items for that cloud row anyway ;)
     
  18. woody

    woody Commander of the Forum

    eep! I had not idea, have not been paying close enough attention, that is for sure!
     
  19. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    meanwhile cuckoo prices keep dropping, thousands worth 75 now, 100cc cuckoo is on page 5 now. is always interesting to see what happens when people start predicting the markets just like in RL. meanwhile bp rakes in the juice just like a broker. cut your fees bp!! 10% way too much.
     
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  20. BlackCaviar

    BlackCaviar Forum Overlooker

    Not on my market. Lowest is 106.
     
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