Please use correct terms in crafting descriptions

When I hold my mouse over the description for red punch it says "You'll receive a one time bonus of 2500 Bahamarama EP."
This is totally incorrect.
"You'll receive 2500 Bahamara EP." is correct.
A one time bonus means that you can only get the bonus once no matter how many times you use the product.
I know this sounds totally trivial but I have made a lot of descions in this game based on this totally incorrect information because I believed this description.
It wasn't until I actually tried taking red punch twice that I learned that the game description is totally incorrect and one can repeated gain benefit from the product.
Thank you very much

 

Initially I got confused by such wording in the cloud row. But later on got used to such "farmerama terminology"

But then such grammatical mistakes can be corrected. May be its their translation of German words.

 

I don't have an issue with the grammar here. It is a one time bonus i.e. you eat one red punch and get a one time bonus of 2500 BEP (you can only eat each red punch once therefore, it is a one time bonus).

 

I agree with the general idea of improving in-game communications, but your particular example is invalid.

You cannot reuse red punch. If you have multiple red punches then you may consume more than one, but you only ever receive 1 reward per product. If you consume one red punch, you do not get credited with 2500 BEP every hour for the rest of eternity - you receive that reward once only. If you consume multiple red punches, you will get credited with one reward of BEP for each red punch. Therefore, if you consume 5, you receive 5 individual rewards of BEP. Per product, it is a one time prize - you cannot then reuse the red punch you have already claimed reward from - it leaves your pantry forever.

Having multiples of a product does not mean you are reusing it. They are individual products. Once you have used one, it leaves your pantry forever. You may have stored many more red punches, but you are not reusing them. Those left in your pantry are unused products; the ones you have consumed leave. Therefore you cannot reuse them and you cannot reclaim the reward. As such, the reward for one red punch is a one time bonus. You can get that reward many times if you use separate products, but the prize for one product is not reclaimable, and is therefore a one-time bonus.

I agree with this point for cloud rows, where the prize is reclaimable, but red punch is a poor example because it is a one time bonus

 

wow....
how in any way whatsoever is it a problem to remove the words 'one time bonus?'

is there any example whatsoever that when you buy a CRAFTING product you can use it again and again and again? Of course you can't buy a carrot bread or a red punch and use it again and again.

I have played a lot of games that have items that you can use once, lets say a draught of increased wisdom, that improves your wisdom attribute. so you get a permanent rise in your wisdom stats and you can never use a draught of wisdom again... no matter how many times you make it or buy it. it will never ever boost your wisdom stats again.... that is a one time bonus.

that is what one time bonus means.

This game has no such items.

Thank you for pointing out that this term should be removed from cloud row also.

 

Each item can only be used once. One use, one bonus. The description does not refer to hundreds of batches of the same product, it refers to one item of a product. Which has one use. Can you reuse your red punch? No. Can you reclaim its bonus once you've used the bonus? No. The bonus is available once.

 

It is seldom a good idea to compare one thing to another as in farmerama to another game. This is Farmeramas terminology which most of us understand (or eventually got to understand) so I don't really see the problem.

 

I have to agree with the OP some of the descriptions can be confusing especially to newer players. Just because many of us old timers are used to the descriptions doesn't mean that they are clear.

 

Agreed that some descriptions need changing. However red punch description is fine as is, and more accurate than the suggested change.

 

I don't play many games & I had never come across this terminology before, so it puzzled me for a while. Something like "You will receive 2500 Bahamaram EP for each Red Punch used." would have been a lot clearer for me. (I didn't use the more usual 'consumed' because to me that is also confusing - I don't want to eat flowers!!)
I suspect a lot of the less-than-clear terminology is the result of translation - thank goodness we have the forums to help us sort it out.

 

I agree that the cloud row is confusing - I recall myself wondering what the point of opening a row was if I only got a one time bonus and in this example it needs to be removed for clarity purposes as for the crafting products I agree with squiggle, the wording is perfectly clear English to me.

 

Actually, the wording is correct as it is, but if even a few people find it confusing, they why not change it?

I am not sure your fix is the best, though. That wording tends to be used for the EP givers. How about "each product gives a one time bonus of 2500 Baharama EP"

Or (a tad shorter) "each punch yields a single bonus of 2500 BEP"

per the cloud row, etc... definitely yes! I have already posted a suggestion thread asking for several of the wording changes.

 

Sorry if I caused offense d5aisy, I certainly didn't mean to. It's just that I do not find that particular example confusing, the bonus is the bep you get and you can only eat it once, so it's a one time bonus. I totally agree that the cloud row wording needs changing and there probably are some crafting products with wording that has not been translated correctly.

 

Oh no Chookie I had no problem whatsoever with your comment.
The quote you are posting were addressed to another person who chose to comment on my post... Sorry about the confusion.
I will explain why I wanted the wording changed.
I spent a bunch of stars upgrading my confectionary percentage instead of opening spa manager because I believed the wording... that it was a one time bonus. So I'm now level 2 in confectionary bonus instead of spending the stars towards spa manager... because of the wording of red punch.
I wanted to ask the game developers to change the wording to make it simpler, easy to understand, and completely unambigious. There is no way anyone could misunderstand 'red punch gives 2500 BEP'
As far as I'm concerned the wording cost me 110 wasted stars. I wanted to change things so no one in the future would have wasted the stars the way I did.
I realize the stars aren't really wasted... I just would have spent them differently if the words 'one time bonus' weren't attached to the red punch.

And just to be very clear... since the game won't let me block you. Squigglegiggle... please do not comment on my posts. Thank you

 

D5aisy at times i also find a few things hard to understand in the written descriptions i must admit it took me ages to work out the market as for how many items your selling and how many packages of those said items .... took me so long .... just because the wording is a bit different to how it would be worded here

Chin up ... don't stress they are bring stars back remember

 

lol.... I have made just that kind of mistake with the wording you suggested. Truth is, almost any wording can be misunderstood. Its not so much a matter of bad grammar as just that language is not always precise. The wording you suggested is used for EP givers pretty much exactly (maybe that should be changed as well). Its not a big deal to me, but that is why I offered another alternative.. though I see that calety also offered an alternative that I had missed prior.

Anyway, I can certainly understand your frustration. And, as I said.. if even a few people are confused, then clarification is warranted.

On the positive side, confectionery can offer you CAC at level 4, so its not a total loss.

 

Sorry d5aisy, I certainly didn't mean to cause offence. What I said was nothing against you whatsoever, I simply did not agree with the example you gave as I felt the wording of the red punch was 100% correct - that's not a problem I have with you. I feel I was civil and if my words upset you I apologise, but again, I didn't mean anything against you whatsoever. My disagreement with part of your suggestion is nothing on you.

As I've said before, I agree with your suggestion - I just do not think the red punch example is valid, as its current description is perfectly accurate, and removing "one time bonus" implies that the same red punch can be reused, which is incorrect.

 

You do.
By ignoring multiple times being asked nicely, to stop responding, pushing, arguing, mailing.
You just cannot take NO for an answer, and that is what makes ME angry with you.
It is OUR choice to either block you or not, the fact that you KEEP on going.....is what makes me angry and offended. It is the reason I blocked you, as you will not stop when asked.

And that is my personal opinion and the last time i will mention this.


As for the descriptions in game.... they can be way clearer, but HOW exactly will take some serious brainstorming it seems!

 

Greetings lovely Farmers,

I am really sorry, but since this is getting too personal and off topic, I will now close the thread. The message has been duly noted - descriptions need to be more clear. We might address this in the future if needed, without the risk of going off topic.

Please bring back your bubbly happy spirits We had enough tough times lately ...

Also, please remember to agree to disagree and - there is no topic where we can all agree on the same thing, but we are all allowed to express our opinions.
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Best regards,
teddy.bear