CAC price & use

Deleted, due to lack of education, and I need to learn more before asking things.

 

Great Mir I searched also but couldn't find it...

I suppose this one is for me? If not - just ignore

I’m not sure what “hard call here” means? Still working on my English and figure the best way is to ask when I don’t understand. Hope you don’t mind.

If you got the impression that I eat 10 CACs + PPP because I find it useful then it’s wrong. I did it only to test the time of the buff. The one I questioned in post 32…and then proving my self wrong.

In fact I never eat more than 1 CAC at a time and I only use PPP to extend the other buffs if it's not more profitable to just use 2 instead of 1. I usually eat CAC in the morning.


I find it smart the way Aluntino gets the best of the buffs by eating CAC + other + PPP at noon or later. But I don't think it would work for me. I'd forget about the CAC too many times as I now have the habit of eating buffs in the morning - at least the CAC.

I'm a bit anxious about the market prices on crops in general after the new CR with the free CAC. No doubt that the price on CAC will decrease but what about the crops in general? Will they also decrease? I have been selling CAC around events when the price was high but that's about to end now. It's gradually hard finding any artisan products really worth selling except when there is a sudden demand....

Short termed crops has made me rich. The price is much higher on them compared to long termed crops if you look at the CCs pr hour it takes you to grow it. If the prices decrease in general on the market then I have to come up with new ideas for making CCs as fast as I do now. For the time being there is a lot of CCs in new trees, animals and breeding animals. But that is only if I spend rl money. And I do - but I also have a limit for that. New breeding animals, trees and new animals are coming to us as pearls on a string so how am I to keep up with making enough CCs so I can buy at least some of it?

I do hope the free CAC will not influence the prices on crops that much - and if anyone wonders if I am a doomsayer....well I'm not -
just venting my thoughts. Hoping that I can still make lots of CCs on the market

 

(meba: "hard call" = hard decision. Have you ever heard the expression "It's your call"? Well, that's the sense: "It's your decision", "It's up to you").

Every person is different and we must use the resources in this game, like PPP, to best suit what we need/decide to do and our lifestyle. For me, for example, it's the other way around: if I stacked many CACs+ZABs, I'd probably not be aware that they have run out when they do. It's easier for me the routine of doing it daily when needed. As a side beneficial effect, it's more efficient for my farming style. But it's become a habit of mine to check the buffing slots before harvesting, every time. As it's now a recently incorporated habit to go through the CRs before harvesting or seeding/feeding, given the wide variety of maturation times of CRs and the so many of them that have effect on what you harvest/seed/feed, all maturing at different times (this is the very reason why I'm not so sure CR-harvesting automation will be good when/if they implement it, because it should be very picky and I don't think they'll do it this way; they'll most probably go for the rather brutish approach of harvesting all at the same time, at least initially).

By reading the OA related to PPP (I had either missed or forgot all about it, probably because I never extend too many buffs at a time), what I understand is that 200 hs is the tops total extension effect -I wonder if it is for every slot or for all slots in conjunction: the OA doesn't tell-; for sure, it's not the total base time of the buffs you're extending, as proven by what meba published in page 2. It's not that I care much -I will probably never use such long extensions: I haven't ever so far-, but I'm just wondering if that's the correct interpretation.

Crops prices should decrease with these new CAC bounty times. But I don't think it will happen quickly. Currently, there's a lot of demand pressure on everything and crops prices are not determined only by CAC but also by all the rest of pressing demands, that also need space.

 

That is how I understand it too, and that is how someone explained it when I first heard about it. I would think that it is 200hrs for each slot.

The Hungarian oracle, which is always very well informed, claims that it will be more sophisticated (sorry for not providing a link, it was a while ago and the rumor thread there is just so long, I don't want to go looking for it)

 

Each CAC works for 18 hours. And a PPP extends all active buffs for 30% to the basic time of the crafting products.

If 10 CACs + 1 PPP, it should be :
( 10*18 ) * 1.3 = 180 * 1.3 = 234 hours. Am I right?!

Why could become more than 244 hours? Sorry I'm confused.

 

@meba091, I was not implying that you use ten CAC's, I was simply commenting on the 10. as part of strategies in this post! The term "hard call" is exactly what Aluntino said...and does not have anything to do with your post. Sorry if you felt offended
@-Mir85- , Thank you sooo much for finding that PPP post!!

 

Hi Meba091

I been Reading your Post....Most of The Artisan Products Have Fallen in Prices, since they came onto the Artisan Village. Most of them are not worth Making...!!! The Cost of Crafting them using crops,fruits and products etc Cost More to Make than what you can sell it for.

Some of them can still be crafted and sold to the Markets for Profits but Profit Margins have fallen to what they use to be....Many Artisan Products can be brought from the Markets Cheaper than compared to cost of Making them. I do often buy Artisan Crafts that are selling for cheap. As it saves me draining my stock of Sugar,Salt, Herbals. Which I can use to make more useful things.

The Crop Prices Varies most of them have gone up in price due to Demands of Needing Them or Some Farmers do not have time, Space or Resources to Grow them. Therefore there is less restocking the Markets of these kind of crops than flooding the markets to what already been brought !!! In My Market Carnations and Roses have Fallen in Price to what they use to be sold for. But Prices do Vary quickly in the Markets. It all down to Supply and Demand really or Quests/Events or Mill Requirements. Most of Mid Timed Crops have gone up in price to what they use to be.

Now These Days any New Farmer to Recently Joined or Known as Newbies would find there is Far More Farmer Society Quests to Complete Compared to Veteran Farmer Such as Me. We did not have that many Quests to complete back then to what it is now.

What Really Drives Crop Prices Up Couple of Reasons....Milling Animal Feeds is One of them. Geese Feed has Pushed up Prices of Blackberries and Sorghum. Many of Us not got the Space to Grow Everything that is needed to Grow. So They Grow what they can, but have to Buy what they are short on in the Markets.

I am Crop Hoarder and Reap Lots of Crops as selling for loads of CC. Some of Us not got the time to Hoard Crops at the Rate I do it at. Especially those who have real life things such as chores, bring up kids go to work etc.

The Cloud Rows are Confusing I just wish they are Put into categories so I know which ones Gives Bahm EP or Effects on Animal Pens or Production Pens or Special Effects.

It Not Make Sense to Eat 10 x CAC using 1 PPP as We do get Events often. Plus When new Event Starts most of the time it need good chunk of Drops so we have to grow Long Time Stuff to get Decent amount of Drops. Therefore CAC Effects gets Wasted. I Mainly Just Eat 1 or two CAC at a time with PPP Sometimes i Eat 3 or 4 CAC at the Most. The Reason is I use PAC often when i got Island Trees out to Boost Bahm EP and Island Fruit Stocks....

 

Thanks for the explanation Aluntino Yes I have heard the expression "it's your call" before - don't know why I didn't connect that way - but now I know for sure .

Oh I really mess up in this tread so sorry

I had an ongoing CAC when I ate the ten. That's why it shows 244 hours instead of 234. I didn't mention it because the issue was to show that the time for buffering could go beyond 200 hours. It's only the time for extending the buff with PPP which is limited by 200 hours. Just like Mir said in the first place. Sorry for the confusion about that I should have told...

I don't feel offended at all. I was unsure of the meaning of your post and if you thought that I found it a good strategy to eat 10 CACs + PPP I just wanted to clear that up. So don't be sorry - no hard feelings here

Hi Mooboy
Yay I got a hunch about you being a crop hoarder in fact I suspect you hoard everything
I attend the market every day buying and selling and I love that aspect of the game. At the moment I'm working on Soup n'Friends and every CC I make goes for the high breeding animals needed for that quest. So my barn store only a relatively minimum but I intend to hoard just a little when I'm done with the quest.

As for CR I'm just as confused as you. And I'm far from getting the best of it. It would be nice if you could place them in categories and furthermore it would be helpful (to me at least) if the time for the cloud to relax before you can start it again appeared with the other information. I think I have to get better habits about the row.

I agree about the other things you wrote and thanks for replying

 

@meba091
Thank you for clarifying. Now it all makes sense.


@-Mir85-
Thank you for creating this thread. Everyone can learn from the experience of one of the other.
Sorry, I forgot to mention this in my previous post.


@BlackCaviar
Thank you for the post in feedback thread. It's a great idea.

 

@-Mir85- thanks again!

 

Today in My Market PPP now selling for 26000 CC. Brought a CAC for 35000 CC. Will The Price of PPP come Down or it going up !!!

 

It will probably go up....since we've pointed out how useful it can be. LOL

 

PPP's are at 19,000 CC's rt now on my mkt #32

 

CAC is 44K and PPP is 27k on market #10

 

Your mkt is a little higher, mine went up, CAC at 42 and PPP at 22 now.

 

CAC is at 42k now some had dropped to as low as 39k. PPP is holding at 16k on market 11.

 

It was 38k and change on 9 this morning! Grabbed a few for myself!!

 

CAC is currently 49.9 and PPP is 19.5k (up a bit today) in Mkt 21. I don't know of anyone else in my market though.

 

CAC is @ 48.2K & PPP is @ 14.4K on market 14.

 

CAC is around 55.000 CC and PPP at 18000 CC on market 18.