I'm broke, again! How do I make ccs?

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  1. meba091

    meba091 Forum Veteran

    Eggs are here at 135 and over 500 listed - went up the last few days.
     
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  2. alexis2112

    alexis2112 Forum Pro

    Eggs are 175 here, and have regularly been up around 150-200 the past few days. Over 500 listed.
     
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  3. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    alexis
    the same here market 18
     
  4. Banjoman

    Banjoman Forum Ambassador

    Broke... A question for you.
    We know you do not like growing 'junks'
    As a 'farmer'... what do you grow ????
     
  5. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    @Banjoman
    I rarely, very rarely, grow any crops. I have no reason to. I cannot even tell from my barn when I do grow.
    The farms I cannot check them all, not enough time. I cannot even keep the mills spinning. But let's make a little sense to this, just a little.

    If I tried to grow and cannot check in 24 hours then I will only get weeds and I cannot sell them. So all of the farms produce animals. Most have hundreds of animal/production pens. This farm must have 1800 by now.

    I produce animals and place trees in the outlying areas

    I cannot produce all the animals either.

    No ccs with animals during the current event as farmers are producing them. Fine with me. Need feed? Gotta special deal for ya 8).

    Want to sell your crops? 8) Fine, I'll give a fair price. And no need for me to grow anything.

    I'll even dibble and dabble with refinements and know good and well I'm not growing anything. This is only throwing crops away for me.

    As in RL, what I want, I want and I don't mind paying for it. I just don't like to overpay. And just because something is worth so much to you does not mean it is worth anything to me. And this keeps things in perspective.

    And we see farmers having emergency situations where they desperately price to get ccs. hahaha Just because something is an emergency to them does not make it an emergency to me. So I buy and price accordingly.

    Grow? For what?

    And grow junks? :wuerg: Foooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor what? A CR I have to harvest?

    I will happily grow junks when the prize is an animal pen that takes 200 hours to produce.
     
  6. alexis2112

    alexis2112 Forum Pro

    Wow, farmer_broke, you're making me consider tearing up all of my ploughed land to invest in animal stalls.

    Need to wrap my brain around this new concept, although it's precisely what I've done on the island because it is too small to grow crops effectively of any use. But to also transform the main farm and green meadow ...

    *brain impolodes* :eek:
     
  7. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Animal production is not for everyone. Have no animal pens and have no choice then. I need feed so I play the feed market too. And over time I never need feed. Start your mill and have the mill subscription and it will probably be 2 years before you have the bat feed in the barn here now. Same with feed like beaver feed and on. No hurry to buy or sell anything.

    Play the market and one has cheap crops for the mill. And keep playing it and there is no need to grow. Sink in breeding animals and artisan products and other products and gather what you like and enjoy the game.

    I asked about eggs and I listen to everyone. But only about 130,000 and don't know if I want to gather anymore or just sell.

    Want to grow lettuce? I don't so I gathered a couple of million.

    All the new farms .... chickens then rabbits. No sense buying 1/2 the pens needed for Noah's Ark. I just buy all I need for the quest and put them all out and whenever I make it back then I turn on the timer to start the quest and finish it. How long does it take to pay for 128 chicken pens?

    Came back and cuckoos went to 270 on this market. So if one learned how to play the lettuce market then one is able to play the cuckoo market just like lettuce. Why not? So I will.
     
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  8. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    eggs 235 low, earlier there were 800 offers now only 350 offers?? alot of movement.
     
  9. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    Farmer broke
    Did you like the gift from the coconut today?:music: Today is a good day to make new farms, they will get 100.000 CC for free:D
     
  10. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Almost 288 here and 451 offers. EV is 300. Anyone learning the market should keep an eye on the price resistance and the number of offers at 300.

    Keeping an eye on parrot feathers and still slowly gathering. Lots in barns and virtually no demand.

    Pheromones have edged up further. Poor ep to produce though.

    And the next is 25 power feed. Had no time to begin a new farm but the 100000 was the time. I did start a new farm about the time of all the eps. Can level up before even doing the tutorial. hahaha

    Bought cuckoos to list at 338. Wanted to draw the offers of 1000 out of barns and they came. I'll pick up more at 203. Easy set up. This same tactic may be used in many areas of the game and this includes breeding animals and craft products. With some market one must have time to watch the area. Remember, some just HAVE TO be on page one, HAVE TO. Be careful of getting set up to give your ccs away.

    Like the price of the Goose? hahaha I do too. A little something to it though. Most likely your mill cannot keep up with 128 pens. Sooooooooooooooooooooooo .... I'll mill the feed and sell it at inflated rates made from crops which were bought cheap. Annnddddd .. since rabbits are needed to produce the Anaconda feed, I'll produce the rabbit and buy the cheap ones and sell them in large lots at more inflated rates with what I produce. One still cannot mill enough Anaconda feed for 41 pens on Baha sooooooooo I'll sell some Anaconda feed Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd Since one cannot produce two different feeds some will need Panda and Camel feed. SoooooooI just sell them too at inflated rates. Make sense?
     
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  11. SillyGuy

    SillyGuy Forum Veteran

    Broke, I used the same strategies at market as you did...

    I did it.. Almost listing everything at everytime on 1st page... I was too generous to give my ccs away... I do not mind.. xDxDxD
    If someone wanted to undercut my rate, I will buy it of course after taking into free of tax fee. :p:p

    You know what I already know. Come here fishy fishy...8)
     
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  12. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    The Gone Fishin Event has made many Farmers put many stables and these stables needs Animal Feeds. The Animal Feeds in my Market many of them have now gone up in Price. I am Making a killing selling Kiwi Feeds 7000to 8000 per kiwi feed.

    But some of these Animal Feeds are costing almost as much or even more than the Price of Animal of Animal the Normal Stables will Produce. I am mainly growing Rare Animals that sell for high Price or Grow Animal that have cheap Animal Feeds to Help complete this Event.

    The Price of Cuckoos Finally Picking Up in Price now up to 400 CC Each. Therefore the cost of Making Moustaches is Getting Pricey. Hardly any Profit Margins compared to prices of Moustaches in the Markets.

    No Making much Money from Gone Fishin Event, Except for Growing Rare Animals and selling them in the Markets.

    I have got 128 Goose Pens and 128 Goose Yellow Pens. As I have been Growing Goose Ready for Goose Breeding I am doing well almost 4000 Goose in my Barn. I will back CC Back on these pens i brought from the store once goose breeding starts.

    I have been selling Moustaches from 190000 to 10000CC Each as I been Buying Cooking Pots to help complete Two Quests. I did Grow a Fair Amount of Moustaches since these Moustache Salons Can be Grown in much lesser time than Cooking Pots Production Pens.;)
     
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  13. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    The event is definitely going to end. But the feed sales at inflated prices will continue for a while. I'm down to about 125,000 of various feeds. I know the feed market. So I know the range of prices for a particular feed. So looking at current prices one can see what feed is in barns. And market composition varies as do people.

    This observation may be made with most as this is basic supply and demand market mechanics. I do not depend on any farmer to buy. With this buying cross the board one is able to take advantage of temporary price instability. For instance, beaver feed hit 1760 here. No worry with over 16,000 to sell.

    I mentioned a desire for peaches in a post above. Peaches are now at 91 on this market. No more buying for now for me. No selling either though! hahahaha (but with a 700,000 unit base of some trash tree fruit I'll take it.)

    No producing a goose for me, even with 128 pens. I'll just play um like they were more expensive lettuce. hereeeeeeeeeeeeee fishy fishy

    There is a DANGER when holding massive stocks and selling to -0-. The danger is that one must begin to establish a new base price.

    Still playing around with cuckoos. I'm watching the market to exchange rate of dogs, cuckoos and eagle. The price is not the determining sales factor but the rate in comparison to others. Of course we know to take advantage of temporary market bleeps and I limit that.

    Last thing, with high quantities of feed, I can depress a feed market and selling ridiculously in thousands but no good. I'll just give the people what they want and selling in low quantities at inflated prices.... herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre fishy fishy!!!

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    herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre fishy fishy!!! Fresh feed for you fishy fishy.
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    gotcha xDxDxDxDxDxDxD
     
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  14. alexis2112

    alexis2112 Forum Pro

    I invested in chicken pens (never had more than 2-4 of anything before) and filled my green meadow. Have raked in nearly 2m cc selling chickens. My high on the market was 327cc, low has been 298. Just a couple of weeks ago, chickens were going for 185!

    All of the consumable products have skyrocketed as well; goat milk selling in mid 600s, milk in 500-600s, honey in 650-700s, and I sold my stash of eggs (well 450 of them as I only had 500 when eggs hit 275cc). It will take me a while to build back, but I've been buying baked goods instead of making them, so I can live with only 50 eggs for a while. (Wish I'd had farmer broke's 130k! xD )

    I'll be away all of next week, so I won't earn much more from this. I suspect chickens will return to normal by the time I get back, but it's been a great run! :)
     
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  15. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Many animal prices have skyrocketed and for no other reason than the price farmers are paying for feed. Feed is being cleared from barns with a RL profit motive for BP and I cannot fault them. Remember the mill subscription was offered and with unlimited quantities recently? Watch the next time it is offered and the slight but apparent profit motive and actions.

    I will not pay for the price inflated animals. In fact, if the foolishness continues I'm going to start dumping animals. Chicken sales are still good although prices have dropped. No worry. The price of anaconda feed has risen to the point where profits can be made from anaconda feed bought at 1600 - 1800 for a long time.

    Animal prices will fall as farmers who left the planet in search of riches come back to earth. I will buy animals at no higher than y price point before the current event. They surface.

    Any cheap animal feed crops will be needed after the event. I bought log before the event and will hold and let other farmers work hard for the little profit they will receive in currently producing.

    The ONLY crop I have thought of producing is sorghum and only because I bought two junk CAC for 20,000 each.
     
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  16. SillyGuy

    SillyGuy Forum Veteran

    How about animal products, broke... HINT HINT HINT!! ;)
     
  17. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Good idea! When I begin a farm I go straight to chicken production, mill the feed, sell the chickens, keep milling and begin to buy feed, begin to buy rabbit pens slowly, mill the feed or buy cheap and on and on. The rabbits are good because when you do not have time to check the farm the rabbit pens produce and the rabbits sell decently. In the process I complete the petting zoo and Noah's ark if the chickens will not bring good ccs. If they do then I forget the quests till later. About one round of chickens and they pay for themselves Selling in 1,s and two is a waste of time so I sell in hundred at a higher price and appeal to the farmer needing chickens for Baha and the anaconda feed. I'm buying chickens from a new farmer now.

    Have been playing angora like lettuce for months. Rabbit prices have emptied the cheap angora from barns. I da care. I sell in lots of 100 to the artisan product farmers so they will pay. No need to get greedy; didn't do anything but buy cheap and mark it up fairly.

    Eggs hit 234. Time to think about unloading a few thousand in lots aimed at the new farmer working the egg quest. They don't have much so no need in trying to make a bundle. I'll sell them exactly what they need to do 8 parts of the quest at one time.

    Always play koi but pricey to play because again in lots of 100 - 200.

    Not much luck with guano ... need a bat call of some sort .... hint hint hint .

    Timber- The price has increased about 30% in the last 6 months but all it takes is a timber tree to destroy it and I have not ruled it out. But I hold about 13,000. Peanut butter has risen about 25% in 6 months but there are lots in barns too and same here.

    Parrot feathers are ridiculous. The only way to increase parrot feathers near the exchange is to have a massive call for them specifically or products in general. Breeding alone will not do it. But I do hold 25 - 30,000. It is just foolish playing with then. BUT if products are allowed to be submitted to the TOP 1000 then this will be the one to give. Anyone anticipating playing on that playground should protect themselves.

    Carpet is underpriced and that correction will be made and probably in connection with some Baha stunt. And Baha is overdue to activity.

    Did invest in a few thousand Bikini and unloaded a few recently. Monkey prices have help here but I don't see monkey prices remaining as high as they have been.

    What I really like is cheese though. This a real looser for those producing it. Mouse feed requires only corn so I have about 1.3 million. I will move to massive mouse buying at a set rate and will continue buying cheese cheaply until I hit 10,000.

    I know we have thoughts about dogs. I'm still acquiring at the same rate.

    Cuckoo prices entered the caution zone for me. Sold about 4000 at 383. They went to over 400 with only 12 offers on the market. So sales to the animal trophy buyers is nearing its limit. The advantage is the quantity availability over dogs.

    Oh yeah, I now must conclude that market assignment is not so random as we are lead to believe. I notice the number of those listed on Market 40 from the international list. Market 40 here. New entrant assignment helps control a market to some degree.
     
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  18. Clashstrummer

    Clashstrummer Count Count

    Wow I recently bought turkey feed from mud_pie_man and this is making me wonder if it was as good a deal as I thought it was. o_O

    I've made some good cc's selling chickens and rabbits for about the last week, chickens up to 400 cc's and rabbits 900 to 1000cc's and they are buying them.
     
  19. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    The chickens and rabbits are bought to make the anaconda feed. New farmers tend to make angora because they are usually selling at a loss.

    If you want turkey feed from mud_pie_man I will list it. How many do you want? I paid no higher that 60 for them and have about 74,000. Want them? Give me a fair return and they are all yours.

    Work with me on another 15,000 rabbit feed. I need to dump it.

    How bout another 24,000 chicken feed?

    Make me a good offer and its all yours. 8)

    I need a few things. I'll spend 10 million with you quick for starters. Any tree fruit?

    -----Edit----

    If you want to fool with it there is profit in it. If you want to get started I will sell so you can make ccs and go on your own. I'll get out of the feed market and leave it to you if you want. Sure you see all the offers. The offers are low quantity now because the prices are inflated and should drop after the event.

    I don't have time to play the low level crops with the mud_pie man farm. But now farmers will mill again to restock or begin stocking. Time to sell them on this farm. Millions. And millions of apples, walnuts and plum too, just for this!

    Easy cc and no event needed.

    Let me know.
     
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  20. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    with cuckoos hovering around 400cc now ive started buying what i can for 300cc and under.
    carrots @ 15cc and wheat spiked over 20cc. i am making good cc selling 100k wheat i grew last week.

    so many items are going up in price and very few if any are coming down. bargains are getting harder and harder to find.
     
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