Strategy for "Outfoxed" -Hungarian Event

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  1. 12ss12

    12ss12 Living Forum Legend

    Outfoxed!
    20.07.2015 - 22.07.2015
    Difficulty: Medium
    • Seeds will be replenished every 5 hours
    • Seeds can be planted only in Main field, Green Meadow & Magical Glade.
    • Products can only be milled in Main farm mill.
    • So no Bahamarama for seeding & milling.

    1. Crops

    Clematis - [​IMG]
    Time: 4 hours ............. 04h00 | 03h12 | 02h00 | 01h36
    Plantable on the Main land, Magical Glade and Green Meadow
    EP (2x2): 36


    Rose Hip - [​IMG] Time: 6 hours ............. 06h00 | 04h48 | 03h00 | 02h40
    Plantable on the Main land, Magical Glade, Green Meadow.
    EP (2x2): 48



    2. Drop Item (135 needed)
    Cascabel Chili


    3. Mill product:
    Fire Punch (27 needed)
    Needs: 10 x Water, 8 x Rose hip, 5 x Cascabel Chili
    Time: 1 min 30 seconds
    Total time required to mill 27 Fire Punch : 40.5 mins (2430 seconds)
    You can produce it in only the Mainland Mill


    What are the total requirements?
    27 Fire punch needed = 270 x Water, 135 Cascabel Chilies, 216 Rose Hips
    so the total requirements for event are
    • Cascabel chilies = 260 (125 Cascabel chilies + 135 for punch)
    • Rose Hips = 5716 (5500 Rose Hips + 216 needed for punch)
    • Clematis = 5500
    • Mulberries = 70
    • Sheep = 60
    • Turkeys = 60
    • Horses = 50
    • Walnuts = 50
    • Ducks = 45
    • Units of water = 270
    Special thanks to teddy.bear . I just borrowed the crop requirements from FAQ;)

    SOS Outfoxed Drops/Cascabel Chili
    [​IMG]
    Outfoxed Cloud Row
    Cooldown: 6 hours
    Gives: 2000 Baha EP, 2000 EP
    Requires the 3 event items
    Hungarian Flowerbed
    [​IMG]
    Time: 10 hours
    Size: 1x2
    Gives: 840 EP or Baha-EP
    Placeable on all lands

    Hot Springs
    [​IMG]
    Time: 10 hours
    Size: 1x1
    Gives: 420 EP or Baha-EP
    Placeable on all lands

    Hot Tub
    [​IMG]
    Time: 10 hours
    Size: 2x2
    Gives: 1760 EP or Baha-EP
    Placeable on all lands
    1 goose stable II orange
    5 lyra wonder stables
    6 party spins
    12 Rhine wonder trees
    12 Jamaica wonder trees
    85 super-grows
    10 hrs All helpers
    24 hrs All helpers
    38 hrs All helpers
    Outfoxed Event Sticker
    [​IMG]
    * What drop item packages can I get in the Shopping center?
    • 1 Cascabel Chili - 2 BB
    • 50 Cascabel Chilies - 85 BB (15% off)
    • 100 Cascabel Chilies - 150 BB (25% off)
    • 150 Cascabel Chilies - 200 BB (33% off)
    * Will there be any Event Baskets during this event?
    Yes, there will be 3 baskets, buyable multiple times:

    Small Basket
    [​IMG]
    60 x Clematis
    30 x Rose Hip
    25 x Cascabel Chili
    25 x Super-grow
    1 x Spring Wreath
    Price: 1,99 Euros (or equivalent in your currency)

    Medium Basket
    [​IMG]
    160 x Clematis
    80 x Rose Hip
    65 x Cascabel Chili
    65 x Super-grow
    3 x Spring Wreaths
    Price: 4,99 Euros (or equivalent in your currency)

    Large Basket
    [​IMG]
    350 x Clematis
    175 x Rose Hip
    145 x Cascabel Chili
    145 x Super-grow
    7 x Spring Wreaths
    Price: 9,99 Euros (or equivalent in your currency)
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2015
  2. JJenks

    JJenks Forum Ambassador

    Thanks for putting this together 12ss12 :) But something is not adding up, when I add up the totals I get:
    2600 Clematis
    3500 Rose hips + 216 needed for punch = 3716

    So I'm not sure which is right o_O
     
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  3. LDCrow

    LDCrow Forum Baron

    JJ, I think you might be missing some of the numbers. I just added the Clematis and got 5500 needed. They are not posted in the same spot all the time. In some of the boxes they are at the top and some they are at the bottom of the list of items needed. :)
     
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  4. JJenks

    JJenks Forum Ambassador

    :cry: xDxD Oh never mind I think it is time for a new pair of glasses :p I can't blame it on lack of coffee this time xD
     
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  5. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    It's practically impossible to do this in 2 days, with such high requirements, even using CAC, without cleaning up the allowed fields of all trees. Nuking seeds takes time and the highest requirement is for the 6hs base time crop. Whomever will lose the first few hours won't be able to complete 100% of this event. So, we'll have to figure out the minimum requirement paths for the highest meaningful rewards. I'll see into that over the weekend.
     
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  6. 12ss12

    12ss12 Living Forum Legend

    Thanks Aluntino ! May be they are expecting us to use super grows and suzy's super grow.
     
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  7. Clashstrummer

    Clashstrummer Count Count

    Well I'm already factoring out the "Lyra" stables as I have terrible luck with them. I'm thinking my personal priority will be the 3 EP/BEP giver items and then I will see what else I can scoop up from there. The CR is not all that fantastic so I'm not worried about getting it.

    As for the trees FYI for any other newer players out there these are NOT the new trees. So if you're thinking you might score one of the newest rare trees (achacha, sea buckthorn berry)that won't happen. The rarest out of what's there would be Baobob and Sorb apple still good just not the latest thing.

    I've got everything else in the barn just need to grow the crops for it. Good luck to everyone on the drops! :)
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2015
  8. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    As it is a 48 Hour 2 Day Event. There is Fair amount of Clematis and Rose Hip to Be Grown as you will need to Grow 5500 Clematis and 5716 Rose Hip.

    This can be done using CAC for Two Days. Since CAC is Cheap to Buy in The Markets. But have to Strip The Farm into 1x1 Fields Once you build up enough event crops for seeding. If you are prepared to do this then then the Challenge is Medium. But if some farmers refusing to remove Trees or Stables then it will be Hard Challenge. All depends what you are prepared to do.

    Once you Build up Enough Seedings to Fill All fields of 1x1 you only need to harvest Lots of Clematis and Rose Hip !!! Can be Done in Couple of Harvests !!!
     
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  9. SuzeeRabbit

    SuzeeRabbit Old Hand

    Hey, 12! Pretty fancy OP! Thanks for numbers.

    When I penciled this into my calendar weeks ago I was thinking this is three days. LOL... *sigh*

    Can anyone remind me the number of squares per field? 202 Main and Meadow?
    I tend to use estimates but such a short event... not so useful.

    Speaking of manure...
    There isn't any in the Market so... now would be a good time to start making your own. LOL! Or make some to sell and make money. I'll start with some of the event critters tonight after MM. Pull them out Sun night and put small plots out.

    Of course, drops depends mostly on trophy management.
    MooB, are you the one that suggested the CFs in the past? or was that 12?
    For lower-mid level farms, or players who have trouble with drops, with their longest crop in CFs w/ water, manure and maybe SG. Best to do some time calculations now, if you don't already have the numbers written down, so that they are ready to harvest when the event starts.
    I think I'll probably clear all fields, place small plots and use "refined" carnations w/ water.

    260 drops for the event in two days... 130 per day. That's pretty high. I can usually get that from the morning harvest tho.

    As for crops...
    Seems like I usually get about 2k from harvesting all three fields of small plots w/ CAC. That means 2.5 harvests of the 4h crop and almost 3 harvest of the 6h crop. So... maybe first half day nuking large plots. Rest of day, depending on time, a round of one crop. Overnight 6h crop w/o water. Second day, clean up.

    That's what I'm think for now.

    Difficulty: :wuerg: :wuerg: :wuerg: :wuerg:
     
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  10. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    The CR is not that bad, in my opinion. It may yield 8K B-EPs + 8K EPs per day. Though the givers by themselves would yield in Shipwreck Bay at least 42% more B-EPs by just having 6 owls activated at each harvest -2 owls minimum is the point of indifference, then-, it'd mean to remove from it EP-yielding givers equivalent to 7 1x1-squares; in other words, for getting 11K B-EPs -only 3K B-EPs of net gain- or more per day, I'd have to let go at least 4/5K EPs/day -which are increased to 12/13K EPs/day since the CR wouldn't be activated-. In my opinion, it's a better deal to activate the CR and get both the 8K B-EPs and the 8K EPs + the EPs of my current givers in Shipwreck Island. But that's for me.

    Of course, unlike it's claimed above, this cannot be done with "a couple of harvests", even if all the 3 lands are fully dedicated to the event's crops. At least 3 harvests of each crop + initial nuking are needed. Not easy at all because it means to cuff yourself to the PC. If Baha could be used for at least one of the two event's crops, then things would change a lot.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2015
  11. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    260 chili drops? with 4&6 hr crops will not get many drops. will need to plan to get maximum drop at start for this one.
     
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  12. FarmerMolly22

    FarmerMolly22 Exceptional Talent

    Okay, I've added it up twice..... and I get 5850 for Clematis. You've got to see the humor here as we all add up the numbers differently. At least if I check again and I'm wrong ...... well I can have a laugh at my own expense. This sure looks difficult given that work time will exclude some of us from constantly being able to plant and harvest as needed. I can give it a shot and try to accomplish at least some of it. Although, I have a stubborn streak in me..... and I will do whatever I can (without spending BB's) with the allotted time. Cheers everyone and have FuN!
     
  13. SuzeeRabbit

    SuzeeRabbit Old Hand

    Despite some ISP problems this evening... I spent more than an hour staring at the running 1s on the modem...

    I took inventory. I have everything I need of reg items. A bit low on some critters as usual.

    We need a fraction more than 3 harvests of each event crop, with water, if using full fields. So a couple of rounds of nuked large plots will take care of the fraction OR a round of the 4h crop on one field and 6h crop on the other two fields. Three rounds of each crop w/ water is around 25h OR two 13h-ish days. Except I'll probably use the 6h crop overnight. So it is doable... if one has no RL. lol

    For those with "real jobs"... I play another game app on my tablet, tablet is more relaxing. The neighborhood leader hides in the bathroom to tend her farm. That's some bladder/intestinal problem she has... lol
     
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  14. farhana

    farhana Forum Mogul

    Thanks 12ss12 for posting the estimate of event requirements. I hope you have enjoyed doing that, I have done the estimates couple of times and loved doing so.

    Well a good challenge after a long time :) I am in :)
     
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  15. 12ss12

    12ss12 Living Forum Legend

    When FAQ was posted it appeared that no players, who usually post FAQs, were online. I had nothing do and it was aholiday for us. So I gave it a try. I will not be doing it regularly. I think I have done it once or twice before. I am glad it came out good. Thank you, friends & farhana for your feedback.

    My strategy for drops is try going long hour crops like roses, carnation & so on comfort fields with water & manure and harvest them after the event starts. You can easily get the drops.

    and for long term strategy common for for all events - do plant refinery for roses & carnation - so if there is a shortage of drops, you can easily grow them within short hours and get the drops.
     
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  16. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    RL won't allow completion I'm sure. I agree with all that growing all of the event crop is possible. I really want to grow the junks but cannot. My strategy would be to have a good smart beginning.

    Best wishes to everyone. I look forward to reading how everyone did.
     
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  17. farhana

    farhana Forum Mogul

    For drops- I am planting today my longest crop spelt on main and green meadow and of course I am using comfort fields, I have calculated the timing, they will grow before the event starts on 20th. On my magical glade I am gonna grow animals-Donkey20, Beaver10 and Chameleon10. I'll put those stables on 20th morning, so I have today and tomorrow to grow event related regular animals and tree fruits on magical glade. Though I have all required animals and tree fruits in my burn still I'll grow again to sell them in market and to keep my stock intake :music::music:
     
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  18. illy1996

    illy1996 Living Forum Legend

    Thanks for all the info 12ss12 and all the other strategists here. I hate to pull out my Glades so they will stay unless I really must rip them up. That means I need a little under 9 harvests. I am not working throughout this event so I am hoping this is achievable. Although the prizes are not bad, they are not anything special so do I pull out all the stops or do I *Illy swoons* just cherry pick what I want? :p

    I have created an SOS thread:

    SOS Outfoxed Drops/Cascabel Chili
    Good luck everybody - with the event and the mystery thingies! ;)
     
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  19. 12ss12

    12ss12 Living Forum Legend

    Thanks Illy for the SOS thread - incorporated it in the first post.
     
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  20. djh99

    djh99 Regular

    I've read that drops depend on time not ep, so are ordinary, 20 hr, trees better to put out than XXL with a shorter time?
    I've also read that an animal taking 2x2 will only give 1 drop, so is it better to have 4 trees?
    I'm trying to plan what I put on b'ama to maximise drops as a 4hr and 6hr crop possibly won't give enough.
     
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