Eager Beaver strategies

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  1. the-farmer58

    the-farmer58 Forum Greenhorn

    sorry just want to know if started ?
     
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  2. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Hello friend.

    hmmmmm After careful thought I would consider one of the following five choices:

    (a) Go on holiday
    (b) Go on holiday
    (c) Go on holiday
    (d) Go on holiday
    (e) Go on holiday

    Your choice of course. Always good to see you!
     
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  3. 007Farming

    007Farming Forum General

    Wowser's...thank you Clashstrummer:) Your generosity is awesome! I have put the dams out and have 2 beavers thus far...not very exciting for most but really darn exciting to me!!! I have always wanted to "play the market"!
    Happy farming...
     
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  4. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    Most probably, there won't be any need of over-donating (over, I mean, the personal tasks).

    It's pretty feasible 325K players will complete the event. And the requirement is rather low: with just 90 albino beavers -or a combination of them plus bred beavers up to dentist- a player will be done with her/his own part, and this amount is probably achievable during a BabyBoom, as I mentioned before, due to skips, by just breeding plain beavers in 50 huts -that is, with just 200 beavers and 100 PFs (the amount of PFs a typical non-Premium/non-mill subscriber player gets in a month by just using its mill and the rewards from the wheel, without counting any PF event rewards). That means many players will be done in an hour or so once they get started.

    So, again, I suggest to donate to your personal tasks and stay put: there'll be plenty of time to assess if any additional donating will be needed. In fact, by wait I mean waiting at least till the weekend's Baby Boom ends.
     
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  5. Aetheria14

    Aetheria14 Regular

    Aluntino, I will defer to your advice to not donate until after baby boom. But I must say I am disappointed that no one will be matching my offer to match early contributions. I think while waiting, many players will be tempted to sell their extra stock.

    Farmerbroke, I am not rich by this game's standards. I am offering to share my extra stock to help a global goal. I also really want the Shiverville Timber and I am willing to use my ccs to get it.

    the-farmer58, the event start is tomorrow morning, September 9th at 8:00 am if you live on the East Coast or 14:00 CEST
     
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  6. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    How did you arrive at 325K to complete?

    ---- Edit -----

    @Aetheria14

    I like your offer to match donation. The event may be done and breed nothing. Using Aluntino's detail, the event may be completed within an hour. And I agree. So the event can be completed within a few days by many. And this leaves time to donate.

    I have not taken a position as to whether any part(s) of the global will be met. And I will do so in time, wrong or right.

    I don't know how many ccs you have or what is in your barn. If you are matching one individual's donation then it may be possible. I can see matching all donations by those participating in this thread may indeed create a problem.

    Yes, I want to work with the 325K number suggested by Aluntino to take an educated position as to whether the global requirements are indeed achievable or not.

    I want you to get the global rewards if that is what you want. I'm going to take a position on this in advance and I will use all the acceptable information available to me.

    How many farmers do you feel will complete the event?
     
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  7. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    f_b,

    poppyseed explained above why 325K players fully completing the personal part of the event will, by doing so, automatically complete the global one in full. In fact, even less than 325K fully completing the event will do because, for sure, some will partially complete it and that partial completion will also count towards the global total.

    That's why, Aetheria, I disagree about selling as a true problem: most of those who will buy during the event will most probably use most of what they'll buy to be able to donate. Why? Because at those buffed up prices very few will buy for keeping stock in their barns -it'd make little sense- Hence, selling, in my opinion, will indirectly partially contribute to the global total; it will be in practice a way to help others completing their own personal part tasks. And any partial donation will count towards the global total.

    Unless the actual number of steady players is way smaller than 325K, then this translates into a very low risk of not getting the global part done.

    Besides, global progress will be shown as soon as the event starts. Therefore, it'll be very easy to track any need of over-donating and plenty of days to see how it goes. But starting by over-donating just to find by mid-event that the global part is already done will be an ugly "surprise": everything over-donated will be lost forever for no real sound need or reason.

    Again, the requirements are pretty low (much lower than those of every comparable breeding event before) and easy to achieve through breeding 200 or so plain beavers. And the rewards are, in accordance, much much poorer, as the low requirements should have made us expect: there's no orange -or even yellow- upgraded pen or workshop to be given as a prize.

    By the way, by completing the personal part of the event, players will get 75 PFs back. In other words, through breeding, practically without investing any serious amount of precious PF, almost everyone can easily complete this event if donations are restricted to albino beavers.
     
  8. Clashstrummer

    Clashstrummer Count Count

    That sounds like really strong logic Aluntino and very good advice. While I would also try to go above and beyond it is a very good idea to wait and see what might actually be needed beyond completing the personal goal.
     
  9. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    phew that a relief that all personal donations goes towards global donations.....yes you can complete the personal donations in two ways just by donating beavers only for each of the four steps but lose out making lots of cc selling beavers to the market as I sold 2000 of them for 5500 cc each lots of lovely cc.....as this really helps to buying breeding beavers or other breeding animals to help the breeding quest this method does not consumes powerfeeds as can gain 75 power feeds from eager beaver personal quest to help you progress on your existing outstanding breeding quests many of you will be able to complete the personal quest just using few power feeds or no power feeds all just as I suspected that baby boom will start at same time as beaver breeding is this be coming a new trait that we normally get baby boom at the weekend too in my market many of the first level breeding are very pricy to buy so at the moment anyone who doing breeding it makes sense to use based animals plus you are more likely to get better skips this way too especially during baby boom good luck and happy breeding to my focd farmers and newbies too:)
     
  10. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Okay Aluntino, this is what I find:

    Total EV needed to complete global: 74,750,000,000 (74 billion 750 million)
    Total individual EV requirements to complete all steps and make no additional donation: 230,000 (230 thousand or 230k)

    Total Global divided by total individual
    74,750,000,000 / 230,000 is exactly 325,000 (the 325k) farmers needed to complete the entire event with no additional donation

    Let me see if I can look at the global picture.
    Global EV requirement divided by exchange (420) of just beavers is 74,500,000,000 / 420 = 176,976,190 beavers


    Individual requirements to complete (230,000) divided by exchange of 420 for each beaver is 548 beavers with no breeding
    Aluntino, I trust your number of around 200 beavers if breeding so I will use the 200.

    So for 200 beavers and little pf one can get the 230,000 EV requirement needed.

    The math: 200 will give me 230,000 as to ? will give me 74,500,000,000
    Answer is 64,782,609 beavers if everyone breeds

    So somewhere between 65 million and 177 million beavers (just a range for me to decide) ooooooooo k
    LOL wish I could see developer data.... LOL hmmmmm
    Are there this many beavers in barns globally? LOL
    (I want to guess the choice of the next breeding animal too while I'm at it. LOL)

    Level 73 required. Are there enough active players with FOCD and otherwise to get the cloud row?
    Some are paying four times the normal price for beavers.
    Breeders will want beavers after the event to breed.
    Some will want stars from a permanent breeding quest maybe.
    Short-term and Long-term rewards are decent.
    Animal market is in chaos and being adjusted.
    Want data........LOL
    Not available
    Loyal players above level 73? LOL

    Developers are perfecting this mechanism.
    Profit wise, a failure would not be in their best interest! I want data.....NO DATA .....LOL

    I'll say that the cloud row will be achieved globally. <-------- OK BP, don't let me down!!!!

    What is my strategy? hahahahahahahaha

    First ............. make a few coins 8)

    Second, learn from the experience of others.

    Third, agree with Aluntino the event may be done in a few hours.

    Fourth................. If all is positive, I will do the event on the very last day.

    (and go shopping while I wait) 8)8)8)


    $$$$edit$$$$

    Knowing BP is in this to make RL funds:

    I will take a further risk of being wrong by saying that individual donations will be required!!!!!!
     
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  11. Aetheria14

    Aetheria14 Regular

    Done in a half hour, so EASY. I bred 47 stalls of 4 beavers each, got back 74 beavers, 58 Albinos, 16 Lumberjacks, 6 Dentists and ta da, 1 Beavi Graff! To complete the Eager Beaver 4 steps I used 17 beavers, 8 albinos, 6 dentists and 9 lumberjacks.

    Good luck to all, may the skips be with you!
     
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  12. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Congratulations Aetheria.

    I'll wait. I'm selling beavers in lots of 100 @ 8820. Absolutely ridiculous.
     
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  13. igotfrogs

    igotfrogs Forum Overlooker

    ok guys i'm done with the personal section .... BUT i don't understand how the global works ? i'm feeling a little thick and tired lol ....
     
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  14. Bhodho

    Bhodho Count Count

    Done; with Albino Beavers only.
    And for the first time, my best skip ever was Scuba Beaver from Basics...
    :D:D:D
     
  15. farmerumf

    farmerumf Forum General

    No time to breed so donated Beavers from all 5 of my farms. My internet is rubbish at moment so may be away for a while but will try and keep eye on Global and donate as and when I can.
     
  16. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    I completed the personal section with both normal and albino beavers.
    I think you just donate whichever beaver you want...
     
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  17. 12ss12

    12ss12 Living Forum Legend

    Done and finished within 1 or 2 mins. No breeding. Donated just the beavers. Let me see if I can some other animals.

    You have put my thoughts exactly into words. This was what I thought a day or two before.
     
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  18. Willow

    Willow Commander of the Forum

    Finished with albino for first three steps and regulars for last step (to save PF). Best skips from regulars - 2 dentists and 1 beavi graf.

    By the way, thanks woody for the requirements chart!:inlove:
     
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  19. spotsbox

    spotsbox Forum Demigod

    Wow, congrats Bhodho! :D Best for me was 2 Beavis on bearbabe, 2 mounties here on spots, lol.

    Finished personal donations on both farms, now breeding beaver for fun and profit :music:xD. And to donate to global, off course.;) Haven't decided on which to donate for global, did personal levels with all albinos and will decide as I go, I guess. Good luck with skips, everyone!
     
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  20. puppiesnponies

    puppiesnponies Living Forum Legend

    Finished. Donated Albinos here on pnp but already feeling Baby boom hand/wrist fatigue and pain so donated plain beavers on BW. I want to keep breeding while I have PF but need a break....it is days like this that tell me that multiple farms is too much for me. I can finally see the green indicator bar for the global section. I was beginning to wonder how long it would take....
     
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