Farmer's Society Farm Orders

EDIT: as noted below, I meant Farmer Society Orders, not the market...
Is it just me or is most of the farmer's market pretty much a waste?

I find myself picking out 1-2 on each level, but mostly, particularly those asking for animals, I get far less from the farmer's market than elsewhere. Am I missing something?

 

Are you talking about the farm orders?

The farmer's market is where you can sell to or buy from other players

 

OOPS... I thought I had double checked the title, but "in my haste", goofed. Thanks for the correction.

Yes. I wind up filling the tree orders, some of the Baharama orders, but definitely not the rare goods or the animal orders.

 

I do more or less the same The orders with lots of fruit in them are very good. I think the ones with long term crops are also quite good (if you buy them in the market). I just don't have enough stock yet. This is one of the things I will start working on soon (after completing some more FSQ's ). I think generally short term crops, animals and products give bad deals. But I am certainly not am expert on these things, so lets see if one shows up

 

bascially, do Farmhouse order or not depend on yr target
If you aim for CC, they really not worth any, esp those don't give CC customer
however, if you got plenty of stock reserve & seeking EP/BEP for all aspect,
Farmhouse Order is a deal, I still will skip some customer's order like
Brittany Sparagus, she only ask for mystery seed & stable stuff, the most important,
EP reward really low, I do it selectively, if she ask 1 or two item & I got plenty, I will
delivery, other just skip, the customer point won't drop down too much if you give her
something once per 2 day.
Justin Beaver, he look for product, EP give not bad, I delivery more frequency, but never
do orher request for new product, unless I had over 300 stock, I will skip too.
Sealvester Stlone is not a good customer, he give quite low EP on animal , I take him like
above two.
However, if farmers don't mind too little return on EP, do all farmhouse order will be a great
way to help for LV either main farm or island.

At frist, I just ignore all non CC giver customer. however, when I find Van Ramme(the only
customer give BEP when change to present Farmhouse Order format)
She give quite good BEP return. Then I try my best to let her go to LV5, I constantly get over
20000 BEP per day, It will be more if she ask for higher island LV stuff (fruit, crop, animals)

 

I've been wishy washy about FHOs. I didn't do them at first. Did them for a while then lost interest. Now I only do the ones that give BEP that ask for crops only. The critters are too valuable to me.

 

I also only do the one customer that I have open for Baha but only do the crops/tree items. As far as the rest of the orders i use to do as many as i could when i was just starting playing this game provided they give CC's but now i have found after playing for some time that they increased the amount of crops they wanted but the amount of CC's they were offering dropped. I couldnt even replace 2 seeds out of the total amount of specific crop they wanted for the CC they were going to give on some orders so i stopped doing most of the customer orders. Here's an example of what i am talking about.. they wanted 40 of tomatoes and 40 of rhubarb and were going to give me 65 CC's and 228 EP but in order to replace those seeds it would cost me 2160 CC's. True i could plant them as i do have more but I am trying to build up stock of longer growing crop so it is not worth it to me to fill that order. Plus 228 EP at level 84 is kind of a joke as i have EP givers that give me more than that in 24 hour period and the only thing i lose is the few seconds it takes to harvest it. I am still not at a point where i have a lot of animal stock so i rarely if ever have donated animals. The only one that seems to give a bunch of coins and ask for little amount (usually 25) to be donated is Naomi Camel, who asks for tree fruits. As Mir 85 has stated. For 25 oranges and 25 dates she is going to give me over 1000 CC's and over 2500 EP. Which since i have more of those is worth it to me. It may not be worth it to you or someone else especially if you dont have a few extra of the tree fruit being asked for.
So it comes down to is it worth it to you. If you are a lower level player it may help to get CC's and to level up such as i did when first playing. Also it is one way to get BEP that most of us need if nothing else.

 

I find the Farm Orders pretty useful as I can usually get a few hundred to a few thousand per order and it doesn't take me too long to stock up again. I mostly seem to get orders for things I don't use much so I don't mind giving them away.

As Mar_Bear said, it's dependent upon what you want and need. In order to get a good return from the Farm Orders you generally need to keep at it consistently to remain at a decent level per customer. At first the returns aren't going to be fantastic. So it really depends. They can often be good if you're not far away from levelling up, due to EP boosts.

 

I had forgotten about the tree fruit customer in the FHOs. I may start doing those again. For premium players there is a special customer that seems to give the best returns of any of them.

 

Usually I just fill one order just to keep the 5 orders in place. I always ignore the animal, product or special goods clients.
About the tree costumer, it's the best return in filling all 5 orders. Also, I like the first costumer (Vin Weasel?) because he doubles EP and CC. But again as long as there are no animals involved.
Don't usually buy to fill anything so if I can't fill it, I'll wait for another round of orders.

I didn't care much about Van Ramme up until now. If indeed dnin21cent is right about 20K BEP per day, then it's worth it. Way worth it than before level conversion on bahamarama, which was already good.
I'm going to try to get the 5 orders in Van Ramme.

 

actually, I do not count the BEP I get everyday, maybe over 20000BEP is not daily,
I just got nearly 20000BEP today, But yesterday, I really got over 20000 BEP
so, when you got to 5 order/day, around 20000 BEP more or less will get.
That's really count when you get so many BEP need for LV up in bahamarama

Edit: forget to say, I'm LV 195 on island, I fill all Van Ramme orders, don't care
if she would ask for 3 animals in a row (@10pcs), Or any new crop/tree fruits
which I just unlock from temple. Just give me thousands of BEP is fine

 

In short, if you're interested in EPs and B-EPs, my strong suggestion is to develop them and tend to be prepared for their demands.

It's by far, unmatched -nothing gets even half close, nothing at all-, the single most EP/B-EP-yielding feature in game related to space where you can actually produce something (that is, leaving apart parks).

But to keep up the pace you must change the way you produce and be able to play the market cleverly so that to get the most benefit from your sales and be ready for the opportunities and/or bargains. Thus, your barn will be up to the task of cherry-picking the most rewarding orders and be ready/able to fulfill them. All my activity is in fact built around the nFHOs: I only produce what's efficient to produce, trying to keep a reasonable balance between EP/B-EP-yield and CCs/plot/time measure and buy the rest.

My daily EP-yield avg gotten from nFHOs is now in excess of 300K EPs -but I have Premium membership which brings along a customer that gives me 3 additional sets of 5 orders daily, most of them very rewarding; anyway, whomever can sit around the range of at least 200K EPs/daily if s/he wants to-. I can do that only because I'm relentless regarding efficiency on what's actually produced in the lands and because I heavily play the mkt. Efficiency means also to be able to refrain from completing absolutely everything BP throws at us. Examples are time and again given by events: it's typical that a single nFHO -a single nFHO, not a single nFHO customer- awards better EPs than those a whole event level would award, with all the pain and suffer it may mean. This is one of the reasons why I'm a sort of evangelist about cherry-picking what you do in events.

They are so rewarding I'm starting to consider opening the second Baha customer even before unlocking ginger and the moringa tree. Van Damme alone typically yields for me something around the avg dnin21cent mentioned: 20K B-EPs/daily.

Don't get fooled by the seemingly low reward in CCs terms -when they do yield something-: their aim is EPs/B-EPs; it's probably the cheapest way to "buy" them. Also, be clever in what you fulfill: cherry-pick the highest rewarding packs, even if they have animals or products, but be aware of the cost of replacing them and play the market accordingly to always have your barn safely replenished.

Just in case you're interested, I avoid to fulfill any purely animal orders but do fulfill enough of them -or anything else- so that I have every single customer requesting 5 orders per day. Thus, chance of being able to cherry-pick and fulfill awesome orders is increased. But, in general, I try to fulfill most of them every day.

Therefore, if your aim is EPs/B-EPs, don't ignore them: develop them, try to make your farm spin around them.

 

My orders from Van Ramme today were very good, because all of them asked for some fruit. If they don't they are usually not worth it.

Order	Market price	BEP	CC/BEP
Elephant	12000	-	-
Fig	1250	-	-
Order 1 totals:	13250	3049	4.3
Coconut	2250	-	-
Order 2 totals:	2250	844	2.7
Guava	1000	-	-
Mango	2000	-	-
Monkey	9000	-	-
Parrot	9000	-	-
Order 3 totals:	21000	5333	3.9
Banana	1250	-	-
Cinnamon	3200	-	-
Elephant	12000	-	-
Kiwi	1250	-	-
Order 4 totals:	17700	4155	4.3
Avocado	1100	-	-
Elephant	12000	-	-
Kiwi	1250	-	-
Sloth	13000	-	-
Order 5 totals:	27350	7245	3.8
-	-	-	-
Total totals:	81550	20626	4.0

As a reference point I use red punch. I buy red punch, which yields 2500BEP, for up to 13000CC. So for red punch the ratio is 5.2CC/BEP. I don't fill any orders with a higher ratio than this. And it usually is higher if the order doesn't include fruit. So today was a very good day.

Hope you find this helpful

 

Thanks, Mir!

Interesting numbers. I've been doing something similar but not as formal.

 

Thank you very much, dnin21cent, Aluntino and Mir!!!

Those are very valuable insights on the BEP earned with Van Ramme. I really had no idea.

I'm baha level 205 and 44GB which I'm reluctant to spend on opening any of the three highest trees without knowing how much we may have to spend on the upcoming third island.

So in short (lvl 205):
Without growing anything, it takes about 30 days to get 600K BEP using Van Ramme.
With the chili weather cloud row, the time reduces to around 22 days.
I don't have any kind of numbers but I surely can make 40K BEP just by growing whatever (as long as it's not a field full of trees) it would be around 9 days to level up. (I'm also counting with the BEP-giver items in the shipwreck bay.)
I don't even count with the red punch or mango-orange smoothie OR filling a permanent quest BEP earning-level every once in a while.
All in all, Van Ramme saves us 8 days. That's great!!!


I remember before the introduction of the new levels that the baha client gave around 33K BEP. It was particularly good at that time but as we all remember 1 level of the old system is 10 levels of the actual system...
This time it's even much more worth it.
I may have to rethink my strategy about bahamarama because filling the orders (without playing with the market) is going to be a huge task.

Great post!!!

 

Thanks. A lot to consider!

 

Arrouquelas,

I'm level 227 and this means I need around 800K B-EPs per level to level up. I'm not keeping any records as of now, except for EP-givers + last cloud contributions; I'll start to keep them for nFHOs once I unlock the second Baha customer (I've already decided I will as soon as I get to over 100 GBs in stock -I currently have 98-; so, this may happen in the next very few days). But, roughly, I know it takes me around 7/10 days to level up, which gives a daily avg of 80+K B-EPs, distributed -in avg- also roughly as follows:
* 25% from nFHOs;
* 40% from EP-givers + clouds;
* 35% from activity in farm (it is higher when I focus on crops, like I'm doing right now).

(Difference in #days to level up depends on how many permanent quests' tasks I do and how many -and how juicy- fair price Red Punch + Langos opportunities I'm able to grab from mkt: I sweep out everything below 12K and 3,6K CCs, respectively).

My aim by adding the 2nd Baha customer is to steadily cut leveling up time to 1 week or less.

 

Hi to Woody, Aluntino, Arrouqelas and Others

I have asked myself what can i do to boost BEP to help level up to get more GBs, So BFHO is one way of doing this you can get 3 BEP Customers in Total. So Far I have two at Level 5 giving 5 Farm House Orders per Day Each Every 24 hours

At the Moment they are Van Ramme and Tiger Dodds. I recently Spend 15GB to unlock Tiger Dodds, Rather then spending GB to unlock a new Bahm Crop or New Bahm Fruit Tree. The New Bahm Farm Society Quests do give you Bahm EP but takes a while to complete them as you need to unlock a new Crop and New Fruit Tree for Each Quest That is fair amount of GB. But Once you completed the quest that is it.

The Third Bahm Customer is Laura Craft Statue it needs 30 GB to unlock it, there is no need to spend 45GB to unlock the 9th Chamber to continue unlocking new Bahm Farm Society Quests. Therefore it easy to unlock these Bahm customers.....

But is comes at a Committed Cost, Every BFHO Orders will diminished you barn stock of animals, crops and Fruits. To be able to complete these orders you have to either to grows these barn stocks or Buy them from the Markets. I am doing Both Lucky for me i got a health barn full of stuff to keep up with demands.

Completing these BFHO it one way to get your next 5GB Sooner. The Cloud Rows is Another Way to Get Bahm EP as we have Two Cloud Rows that gives Bahm EP. As we have recently been able to unlock Fiery Cloud row, which gives 35X of your Bahm level ! The other cloud row of Ice Cream cloud row gives just 1000 Bahm EP

I have several Bahm EP givers in The Ship Wreck, I boost These Bahm EP using all the pets i have, The Roasted Garlic Olive Pesto is not effectively gives that much more Bahm EP on top of the Bahm EP Givers in the Shipwreck. Because for two reasons the cost of making RGOP or buying them in the market to use it to Boost Bahm EP not make much difference even using it with activated Pets. It is far more effective to Eat Bahm EP Giving Crafts.

There are four Bahm EP Giving Crafted Products They are Langos giving 750BEP, Chocolate Pancakes Gives 6000 BEP, Red Punch Gives 2500BEP and Mango Orange Smoothie Gives 7500 BEP.......The prices of these in the markets do go up and down give or take !!!
If you got Crafts Opening up and doing alot of crafting Langos and Red Punches are cheapest to Make to be Eaten.

But Bahamrama Farm House Orders, are becoming most costly to complete do to the fact that Bahm crops,Fruits and Animals are climbing in the Markets....Why cos there is not enough space to grow all needy things on the Island

From Van Ramme I am getting about average 20,000 BEP some days it is down to 15,000 BEP per day, on better days it is 25000BEP, Tiger Dodds it just bit less that Van Ramme as Van Ramme demands more island animals than Tiger Dodds

When you Level up the Island you are rewarded 5GB, but the down side is it get bit harder to next level When you reach level 200 or above it gets even harder to level up The lower Level Farmers can Level up Quicker than Higher level Farmers Because less BEP is required at lower levels

 

Today I got two orders from Van Ramme not demanding fruit.

• 100 chilis, market price 6000, reward 788BEP making the ratio 7,6CC/BEP
• 100 chilis and 10 monkeys, market price 15000, reward 2318BEP making the ratio 6,5CC/BEP

If you compare to the ratios for the orders demanding fruit (here), you see that these are much less rewarding. I never fill the orders without fruit.

Mooboy, I would be very interested to see some numbers from Tiger Dodds

 

Mir, these were my orders from Tiger today. Some days are better than others. He asked for a lot of animals today.

10 anaconda = 1554 BEP 888 cc
25 bananas,10 camels, 10 elephants,10 parrots= 4074 BEP 2328 cc
100 meadow grass,10 elephants= 1911 BEP 1092 cc
10 monkeys = 1071 BEP 612 cc
100 bamboo,100 cinnamon,25 dragon fruit,10 sloths=3318 BEP 1896 cc