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  1. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Reindeer feed strategy

    Sell it all as quickly as I can. It takes no time to mill. Those with reindeer pens now can mill enough for even 128 pens in a fraction of the time if their mill is free. As mills are feed up the prices will definitely fall. I'm selling lots of 10 and 25 @ 2133. It won't last!
     
  2. baw815

    baw815 Forum General

    Thinking of peppering my fields with reindeer pens and seeing if I can get any good reindeer and if I can get enough to finish the quest so I can get a glowworm pen. :inlove: Somehow breeding reindeer seems so Christmassy. :music:
     
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  3. Nellie_Noodles

    Nellie_Noodles Commander of the Forum

    Only 22 selling feed in my market
    Farmer Broke your name is in my market selling ...can you tell me what number the market is please...could never find out what number i was on
    Is Ok i am not selling any ...i'll leave that to you;)

    Thank you Farmer Broke that's very kind of you...am low on piggies myself ...so they are on my list of to do's LOL xD
    Am using my feed to feed my reindeers SO i wont be selling and am off out for the evening
     
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  4. Cassie101

    Cassie101 Emperor of the Forum

    I have over a 1000 reindeer in my barn and have just put 40 yellow pens into use. I'm going to do one or two reindeer breeding rounds tomorrow night to see what I get.
    Baby Boom starts tomorrow at 1800 CET, I'll breed donkeys and fish for the quest.

    Good luck everyone I hope you all get what you want.:)
     
  5. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so you found me. Nice to see you. Our market is number 40.

    Please just sell whatever you want whatever you want.

    Better yet ..........

    I'm looking for a farmer to produce a few thousand pigggies as I seem to have misplaced mine.

    How much would you charge me for a guaranteed sale?

    How about 2,500 piggies to get this contract working? We just agree on a price and I'll send you one buff a day for a week to show you my sincerity.


    --edit---

    I'll get out of the feed market and you may have it OR

    We can work a price on all your feed, and I'll take care of the rest.

    Whenver you're ready!

    And after feed and piggies then we can go to ...........
     
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  6. LDCrow

    LDCrow Forum Baron

    I've been buying up fish the last few days while prices were still reasonable and have happily now sold them all at a substantial profit. :D:D

    I still have plenty to breed if I so desire or sell but the prices are already dropping in my market. Now I kind of wish I had been paying more attention when I donated all the reindeer I had managed to accumulate a few weeks ago in order to finish off the "Down under wonder" FSQ.
     
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  7. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    FOCD is a hard bug to fight :wuerg: I might be doing this event after all :oops: we'll see

    For now I have been selling level 1 & 2 breeding fish & donkeys and buying level 4, i.e. puffer fish and opera donkeys, at around 300k. If I do the event I'll probably donate many level 4 animals even if it means donating over sometimes. I'll have to see how the market prices develop during BBD.
     
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  8. JJenks

    JJenks Forum Ambassador

    I'm fighting a flu bug :wuerg: 'don't worry I washed my hands before typing' :p
    Looked at the event this morning and said no...sold my reindeer :music: Now I'm like you Mir, darn FOCD :sleepy: I'm in but I'll sell as many low level fishies and donkeys and donate my higher levels.

    Love the breeding system....no clearing any space :D
    Good luck everyone :)
     
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  9. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    My preliminary plan is to donate the following:
    • 30,000 EV: Puffer fish
    • 40,000 EV: Puffer fish
    • 50,000 EV: Puffer fish
    • 60,000 EV: Puffer fish + clownfish
    • 70,000 EV: Opera donkey + clownfish
    • 80,000 EV: Puffer fish + poitou donkey
    • 90,000 EV: Opera donkey + poitou donkey
    • 100,000 EV: 2x Puffer fish
    For some steps there is a bit over donation, but one puffer fish is for instance cheaper than a poitou donkey + a pack burro which wouldn't even be enough for 30,000. I might change the plan if the relative market prices change much.

    I have bought almost all the animals needed for the cloud row and the PF, only need two more opera donkeys, total cost is under 6 mill CC. Not as bad as I had feared :) I have made more than that from selling level 1 and 2 animals already, and I still have more to sell.

    Edit: I am choosing higher level animals because I buy and sell them in the market and they have a lower market price/EV ratio (at least for now). If you will be breeding them yourself, it is best to just breed basic animals, like Aluntino already adviced :)
     
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  10. Mooboy

    Mooboy Forum Demigod

    Hi Fellow Farmers. I have been busy Analysing Cold Fins FAQ it is not worth Doing the Whole Event I advise to sklp Level 2 Gold and Diamond Level as we can Buy Two Reindeer Yellows Stables from the Stores plus we can buy 4 White Innocents Cheap in the Market it makes so sense to do both of these from Level 2.

    But to Get The Cloud Row plus two Items needed for Cloud Row ( Carol Singers + Dipping Rope) need to Do;

    • Level 1 Silver
    • Level 2 Silver
    • Level 3 Silver, Gold, Diamond
    • Level 4 Silver, Gold, Diamond
    • Level 5 Silver, Gold, Diamond
    • Level 6 Silver, Gold, Diamond
    It is worth Getting Reindeer Stable: Orange since there will be Future Reindeer Breeding similar to Cuckoo Breeding, Plus it is also worth getting 80 Power Feeds too, Which i will be using for Reindeer Breeding But I advise to try avoid donating Breeding Reindeer to complete this Event since you will not be able to Buy or Sell these in the Markets. But have Future Value in them for Future Events or Quests

    Answer to Aetheria14 Question yes it is well worth Buying Reindeer Stables From The Stores at only 2500 CC Each (Cheap), as you can get Yellow Reindeer Stables for 10,000 CC Each if you got the CC. I have snap up 121 Reindeer Stables as i have 6 Classic Reindeer Stables which are not ungradable also Brought 127 Yellow Reindeer Stables too as i used Buffs and Cloud Rows got them down to under 8 Hours to Grow.

    Milling Reindeer Feeds takes less then 3 Mins to Mill Compared to Milling Donkey Feeds or Fish Feeds, Plus they are selling for at Least 10,000 CC Each in the Markets....You are better off Growing Reindeer than Growing Donkeys or Fish to Sell or to Breed for this Event. But I am going to Breed to Stock up Breeding Reindeer not to Donate. I will see how many i can do but I will be Busy This Whole Weekend I try to find the time to Breed during Baby Boom

    I already not the Breeding Animals to do most of This Event will be skipping Level 2 Gold and Diamond here is less of Breeding Animals of Fish and Donkeys needed to Complete All Except Level 2 Gold and Diamond;

    Breeding Animals Requirements without Breeding Reindeer

    • Clownfish = 13
    • Flying Fish = 24
    • Puffer Fish = 3
    • Wild Donkey = 4
    • Pack Burro = 4
    • Poitou Donkey = 17
    I Hope This Summary Helps you, I advise to Exclude Breeding Reindeer since we cannot buy or sell Breeding Reindeer during this Event Only Breed Reindeer For Fun or to Stock up for Future Event !! not to donate just Yet !!! You can but that is entirely up to your choosing ok ;)

    I am bit short on Poitou Donkeys so will do some Breeding Donkeys using Donkeys maybe Wild Donkeys i am not going to be using Rainbow Fish or Opera Donkeys for this Event will try make much CC as I can selling Surplus Breeding Fish and Donkeys and Fish, Donkeys and Reindeers Certain would be milling Reindeer Feeds for Time Being to get as Many Reindeers as I can :D
     
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  11. julie1013

    julie1013 Commander of the Forum

    I just read there is a problem with the new breeding hotel. Does this mean we won't be able to use it tomorrow and have to use the old way? Obviously I am a bit confusedo_Oo_O:p:p
     
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  12. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

  13. Banjoman

    Banjoman Forum Ambassador

    Have you got a Breakdown for FOCD dummies?
    I have decided to do this only slightly different, minus Level 4 Gold and Diamond.
    (Sitting here wracking my brain with scratch paper and a calculator)
     
  14. baw815

    baw815 Forum General

    I am not sure what to breed. I have 200 fish and 200 or less donkeys. Exactly zero reindeer, 1500 pf on one farm and 500 on the other. Any advice? I am growing reindeer regardless. Have 7 million CCs on one farm and 3 million on the other farm. Unless I sell what I breed I don't think I can afford buying stock to complete the CR. CR at best I think to go for.
     
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  15. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Hi baw :) I think I would try something like this:

    First of all I'd go look at the market prices for the first 4 levels of the breeding fish and donkeys. If I found some cheap opera donkeys or puffer fish I'd probably buy a few. Now I don't know your market, but at this point I'd say 300k is cheap and I might pay up to 400k. Depends on how much the level 1 animals are going for, and more importantly how much you expect you can sell them for once BBD starts.

    Example: A puffer fish has EV 29 times the EV for clownfish. If you buy a puffer fish for 400k cc and can sell 15 clownfish for 30k (total 400k after market fee), then you have almost doubled the EV (15 clown fish = 30k EV, 1 puffer fish 58k EV).​

    Then I'd start breeding fish (only basic) as soon as possible after BBD starts and see if I could sell some of the clownfish at a good price. I expect market prices of the low level breeding animals to fall a little during BBD, so I'd try to sell some in the beginning of BBD - if possible.

    I think I'd try to breed mostly fish and rather sell some donkeys, at least in my market donkeys are twice the price of fish. I'd also sell as many reindeer as possible. I think you can get quite far with just breeding fish. The rule of tumb for a "new breeding animal" quest is 200 animals + 200 PF. Not sure if that'll be enough here, it is very hard to say, because it depends so much on the skips you get. But I think I'd start with that. (If you don't mind spending more PF you can of course breed more immediately (only basic animals). Then you'll probably get very far with donating the skips, supplement with level 1 breeding animals and sell left overs.)

    Saturday I'd try the market again, if prices were a bit down, I'd try to buy something with higher EV for the profit from the clownfish and other sales. Then at some point before BBD is over you'll have to evaluate how you are doing. Need to breed more? Or if things are going really well you might have left over animals you can sell, if so try to donate the animals with lowest market price/ EV ratio.

    That would be my rough plan I think. It is hard to give specific advice because so much depends on how the market develops and how the skips are. But hopefully you can extract something useful from it. I am sure there are other approaches that work as well or better, so if someone has any other advice, please contribute :)
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2015
  16. mingling

    mingling Forum Baron

    :oops:Ok,
    I am not the brightest bulb in the pack but after reading, then it all change, reading again issues, not being able to get on forums my marble is dizzy.

    Where how what level???? I like glowworms I can't find it.
    -.-Another math event, now I know the farm hates me, no carry over, and I do not have the animals to copy what others are doing, yes I stalk other farmers for their gray matter, so now I have to do math:eek:
    My idea is to just do level needed as Mooboy is doing 1st, then try hard to play as close as I can to Mir's way. I am trying new ways to play as training wheels have to come off no more relying on going chicks and wheat to get my CC's just started getting my animals built up in the barn everyone to min. And now math......:cry:
    I blame the last hoe down......I may not be close to playing this next few years, but supplying it ok addicted to the selling!!!! but math...it hurts to think this hard.
    level 4 animals... next to build up for sure.
    Only issue how do you not use them? I am working on level 8 on most perm. quests so need them, but red stalls need the same animals and it seems these math quest want them too I know now why I stay dizzy.
     
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  17. Mooboy

    Mooboy Forum Demigod

    Banjoman, Here is Breakdown for FOCD Dummies.....I would be very silly to not do Level 4 Gold and Diamond as you would Gain 50 Power Feeds which helps Doing some Breeding for this Event !!! I have put on Paper with by Calculated Pen :D

    Here is FOCD Dummies Breakdown of Requirement for This Event also Handy Info for FOCD Farmers too.

    Level 1
    • Silver = 30,000 CC
      • 1 x Poitou Donkey
      • 1 x Pack Burro
      • 1 Wild Donkey
    • Gold = 40,000 CC
      • 1 x Poitou Donkey
      • 1 x Flying Fish
    • Diamond = 50,000 CC
      • 1 x Poitou Donkey
      • 1 x Flying Fish
      • 5 x Clown Fish
    Level 2
    • Silver = 40,000 CC
      • 1 x Poitou Donkey
      • 1 x Flying Fish
    Level 3

    • Silver = 50,000 CC
    • 1 x Poitou Donkey
    • 1 x Flying Fish
    • 5 x Clown Fish
    • Gold = 60,000 CC
    • 1 x Puffer Fish
    • 1 x Clown Fish
    • Diamond = 70,000 CC
    • 2 x Poitou Donkey
    • 1 x Pack Burro
    • 1 x Flying Fish
    • 1 x Wild Donkey
    Level 4

    • Silver = 60,000 CC
    • 1 x Puffer Fish
    • 1 x Clown Fish
    • Gold = 70,000 CC
    • 2 x Poitou Donkey
    • 1 x Pack Burro
    • 1 x Flying Fish
    • 1 x Wild Donkey
    • Diamond = 80,000 CC
    • 2 x Poitou Donkey
    • 2 x Flying Fish
    Level 5

    • Silver = 70,000 CC
    • 2 x Poitou Donkey
    • 1 x Pack Burro
    • 1 x Flying Fish
    • 1 x Wild Donkey
    • Gold = 80,000 CC
    • 2 x Poitou Donkey
    • 2 x Flying Fish
    • Diamond =90,000 CC
    • 5 x Flying Fish
    Level 6

    • Silver = 80,000 CC
    • 2 x Poitou Donkey
    • 2 x Flying Fish
    • Gold =90,000 CC
    • 5 x Flying Fish
    • Diamond = 100,000 CC
    • 1 x Puffer Fish
    • 1 x Poitou Donkey
    • 1 x Flying Fish
    • 1 x Clown Fish
    Breeding Animal Requirements

    • Clown Fish = 13
    • Flying Fish = 24
    • Puffer Fish = 3
    • Wild Donkey = 4
    • Pack Burro = 4
    • Poitou Donkey = 17
    I hope this will help you decide or Debate weather to do this Event or part of this Event or All I suggest to do ? Good Luck Happy Breeding and Enjoy the New Breeding Concept ;)
     
  18. mingling

    mingling Forum Baron

    Nope, can't do it.
    I have critters worth too much and others not enough to add up too.... I tried a few times to sell on critter side got the boot print on the back side to show my results xDxD
    Take king and medi to pair with.... then slide one kiss to play with....
    I will stick with easy games make mill from drops is my speed. At least till I can afford 4th levels in 25 min. to sit in the barn,
    Now back to the last level of the LL now why can't we use breeders for that thing......-.-
     
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  19. illy1996

    illy1996 All Knowing Oracle

    So, after four early morning shifts, since yesterday I have been trying to decide what to do. I have read (but not really digested!) the strategies here and I am still stumbling around in the dark! o_O

    I had over 1000 Reindeer on this farm and about 750 on Chevrefeuille so I decided to make a few CCs (not home/compis mentis enough to follow the markets and make any serious amount but I dabbled) and now I have a few lots of 50 sitting there. They might go, they might not but I have made enough not to worry about that nor the cost of the Reindeer pens I invested in - I didn't realise that Reindeer could be bought in the store but as soon as I did, this farm bought 80+ and Chevrefeuille 40+ and put them out - either to use myself or sell if the price goes up again! So, that's one positive strategy ... isn't it? :music:

    Next: Do I breed Reindeer, Donkeys or Fish, some of each or do I buy all the breeding animals I need? Think I will do a mixture of breeding and buy any if necessary. I love breeding and the new system looks great - no ripping out trees and animals - wahoo! :inlove:

    Finally: Do I do the event a) at all b) cherry pick the prizes I want or c) in full?:eek:

    This last part is the real dilemma but I think, and some of you have already come to the same conclusion. FOCD will not allow me to pass this one by, any more than the last event, the one before that or the next one! I'm in! :D

    *Illy goes off in search of the next scheduled FOCD meeting poster* xD


    Edit: Anyone finished yet? 8)
     
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  20. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Clicked through the breeding market to check on prices for fish and donkeys. When I came to the beavers I thought I had just overlooked them, but no. The colored fish and donkeys are gone from the market o_O
     
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