Help me and your wish will come true!

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  1. davidb1yth007

    davidb1yth007 Forum Ambassador

    :):):)It gives me great pleasure to see that all you farmers are on to Kim.com2000 . -edit-... please all of you, take a bow!
    I introduced Kim.com2000 to this game, and have gone beyond to help her. I set her up to follow someone's advice on the forum (sorry I cannot remember who) about growing chooks and wheat for their feed, and selling on the market but that was all too much like work...
    And her cc balance was 500,000 only about two weeks ago.
    So in answer to her pleas this time I sent her a lonely chicken!
    That's what I think of her lack of effort!
    DB8)
     
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  2. squigglegiggle

    squigglegiggle Forum Overlooker

    Now now, let's not go around being too rude. There's plenty I've experienced with Kim.com2000 as well via IGM, but those are private encounters and we should all keep them private, including you davidb1yth007.

    I think that we've all expressed our feelings quite clearly for KC to read when she is willing to, and there is no more for us to do. We have given her tips and tricks to help her with her situation and if she chooses to heed those suggestions then good on her and I wish her luck. I for one committed to sending her 1 sugar a day which I will continue to do if she needs help.

    Kim, if you bother to read this, please know that we are not ungenerous and we are not unwilling to help. However, I think I speak for us all when I say that your deal seems unfair to us. We have all had to work hard and struggle through financial difficulties at times on our own farms and whilst that does take effort, that is the game. If you do not like it you do not have to participate. Those of us who have the confectionery, at whatever level we may have reached, have all worked incredibly hard to get where we are. Those of us who have access to the jams that you want us to send have given up our time and our resources to earn those jams. We do not feel that sugar is an adequate compensation for something as valuable as a high-level confectionery item, and I hope you can understand that. You speak of financial difficulties yet between what you have claimed in this thread and what davidb1yth007 has confirmed in their post, it seems you are suffering from a case of poor financial management. Consequently, several of us have directed you, on multiple occasions, to threads which help you to manage your finances better. However we do not feel that your personal misfortune regarding CCs, or your current lack of sugar, is an adequate reason for us to cash out our own resources. This is not an event and you have quite literally forever to level up in the confectionery and it is not fair to beg us for our resources - resources that we earned with our own hard work - so that you can level up faster. I, too, want easter marmalade. I, too, want lavendar jam. I, too, want to be able to make more of my own confectionery products. However it is my confectionery and therefore I am responsible for achieving that. It is not the responsibility of other people to forge their own path and then forge mine for me too. They have put in the hard work and it is up to me to put in the hard work for my gains. It is also up to you to put in the hard work for what you have, not survive off the effort of others. You have many options which we have outlined for you, and if you choose not to be bothered taking them then it is your responsibility to find other ways to achieve your goals - it is not up to us to fund your future because you don't particularly like the idea of doing it yourself.
    If, in future events, you truly need something, I am happy to send whatever spares I may have. Many of us are. But that is a very different thing to donating our resources without compensation so that you can advance faster without putting in any of your own effort. I hope you can understand why we feel that it is a very unreasonable request that you are making, and I hope you can understand why we are frustrated at your apparent unwillingness to do any work on your own farm.
    You are not in a situation where you cannot do something. You are merely in a situation where you cannot do certain things now. You cite your financial difficulties as an excuse for why you will not do your own work (and consequently need us to do it for you). We have provided several links and suggestions to you here and in other threads for how to improve your financial situation to be able to achieve your goals. Please do not continue to believe that we are obliged, or willing, to send aid simply because you cannot be bothered following those suggestions. There is no situation in Farmerama that you cannot get out of, so with patience and effort you too can get out of your financial hole - but it is not up to us to fund that progress for you. It is up to you.

    Unfortunately, I have reason to believe that Kim will not be bothered to read that paragraph and fear I have wasted both my time and the energy of my fingers in trying to be polite, so I will leave it there....for now.
     
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  3. Kim.com2000

    Kim.com2000 Active Author

    thanks....thanks for all being haters i dont want to continue this if you are all going to hate me!!

    i did read it....
     
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  4. squigglegiggle

    squigglegiggle Forum Overlooker

    Kim, no one is turning into a hater. But we don't all have to agree with what you're trying to do, either, and you have to accept that your persistence and your attitude is going to foster frustration and distress in other players when they feel like they are being unfairly begged for their hard earned produce.

    We have all struggled in this game and we all understand what it's like to feel like you're stuck and can't go anywhere. We don't hate you and we want to try to help where we can, which is why we've given you so many suggestions. But please understand that it is very difficult to remain positive about this situation when you feel like you are not being asked for help but rather asked for free Gucci bags.

    Your desperate attitude is not going to help you and nor is your passive aggression. As someone who made a very bad name for herself on this forum many years ago, I can tell you exactly what's going to happen if you continue like this. Fortunately I was welcomed back and my attitude has changed a complete 180 degrees - but I have learnt my fair share of lessons. People will help you, when and where they can. But you need to be willing to give back. You need to be willing to work. And you have given us the impression that you are not willing to adequately repay us, you are not willing to work. That makes us very reluctant to give you what we have because we don't feel that it's fair. And as you have continued your campaign to be sent free stuff, we have started to see what you're trying to do. It's only right that we call that sort of stuff out.

    It doesn't make us hate you. We don't. If I'm not despised on this forum for what I did, you certainly won't be. But just because we don't hate you doesn't mean we agree with what you're doing and doesn't mean we're going to stand for it. We have helped you as much as we can. You can either take that help or leave it. None of us really care what you choose to do with that information. What we do care about is the fact that you keep trying to extract products from us instead of following the help we've offered you. That's not fair, that's not right, and we're going to put a stop to it - but that doesn't make us haters and that doesn't mean we hate you.

    I hope you can understand this.

    PS. It's been pointed out before but either you didn't read or you didn't heed (oh squigglegiggle, you're a poet and you didn't even know it) - you can't double post. If you have multiple things to say please put them in the same post
     
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  5. Kim.com2000

    Kim.com2000 Active Author

    Hey Guys


    if you even bother to read this i want to say that all your words are hurting and turning into haters onto a game is sad for me! i understand that i have asked for to much and i am sorry! i am feeling very sad now that people who i THOUGHT were my friends have shut me out! people like -edit- i feel offended by you and very upset. i wont post anymore threads apart from this one saying im sorry for asking to much and if i was going to continue with this game i will never do it again and would make my own progress

    Sorry for being horrible but i did not expect you to turn against me

    IM SORRY for being greedy
     
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  6. squigglegiggle

    squigglegiggle Forum Overlooker

    Kim,

    No one has turned into a hater. We do not hate you. We happen to dislike some of the things you have asked of us and we all explained that in the most polite way possible. Some people did get frustrated, yes, and that could be felt through their words - but no one intended to offend you and that is no reason for you to stop playing Farmerama which is an incredible game.

    These people are your friends. Friends do not always agree and friends will not always treat each other like angels. This is life - and you should not miss out on amazing experiences and relationships because of one sour event. You have not been shut out. You have had a few people tell you that you need to put in some effort before you start getting free gifts from hard working players. No one was a bully (although some people did get a tiny bit carried away) and it is not the end of the world. We don't want to lose a fellow player, neighbour or friend, we just didn't want to be played for fools either.

    No one wanted to upset you and we're sorry if we have somehow hurt you in speaking our minds.
     
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  7. Kim.com2000

    Kim.com2000 Active Author

    Ok everyone i get you are "disagreeing" with me and thats your choice go and read my sorry thread and forgive me and cant we all get along? i asked to much of you and was an ungratful farmer (lol the nicest word i could think of:p) im sorry for calling you haters i will make my own progress from now on love you all and im sorry!!! Can you forgive me? :(
     
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  8. Kim.com2000

    Kim.com2000 Active Author

    Thats ok :) thank you you are very kind!!
     
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  9. squigglegiggle

    squigglegiggle Forum Overlooker

    Hey guys,

    In an effort to play the role of peacemaker, I've agreed to pass on a message from Kim.com2000 who has been banned from the forum presumably as a result of the minor outburst on this thread :D
    Kim would like to say that she is very sorry and did not mean to take your generosity for granted. She loves you all and hopes everyone can be friends again.

    That was all I got in the IGM so I'll leave it there, but I think this is likely the end of the thread :D
     
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  10. Neon-Lights

    Neon-Lights Board Administrator Team Farmerama EN

    this thread has got rather personal and out of hand (several posts have been deleted).
    To prevent further unfavourable comments, the thread has now been closed
     
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