I'm broke, again! How do I make ccs?

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  1. igotfrogs

    igotfrogs Forum Overlooker

    i know i was leaning here! ...... learning .... bunny broke had "friends" :eek::D


    I been spending CC's a little of late .... to finish up quests ..... i bought 4 monkeys today to build a orange bikini thingy ....
     
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  2. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Anyone have any thoughts concerning parrot feathers?

    I find barns are full of them. The market to exchange is the lowest of all products. Egg prices are the next lowest and prices have been slowly edging up.

    In order for parrot feathers to rise in price, at least one of the following must happen:
    • Parrot breeding with a related quest must occur. If at the same level as other product quests the prices will not rise substantially.
    • One or more quests calling for parrot feathers will stimulate demand. This can be accomplished by a quest calling for a high number or exchange value of parrot feathers.
    • Products be allowed to be submitted in TOP 1000 race. The race then becomes one of who can submit the most parrot feathers.

    Where are the ccs with parrot feathers?
     
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  3. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    Can you remind me again what the exchange value is?
     
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  4. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Eggs, the exchange value is 300
    Parrot feathers the exchange is 1864.

    The exchange value is set by the producers. It is fixed. Exchange value is not the market value.

    If an event were to call for 10,000 in products then the exchange value would be used to determine how many to contribute.

    The easiest way to find the exchange value for items you have is to go to your barn.

    NOTE: Although the term "suggested market value" if used for trade products in the game FAQS, the term "exchange value" is used in the barn. If indeed they are the same, nothing prevents the developers for having a mass call for trade products. This has not happened before but this can happen. This will be quite the surprise to many who are unprepared and will just give away anything cluttering their pantry in order to meet an event requirement.
     
  5. alexis2112

    alexis2112 Forum Pro

    Parrot feathers are selling for 180-220ccs in my market. Eggs are usually over 100cc, but not by much. I've been buying eggs when they fall to 80cc or less, and then selling at 110-120cc when the market rises. Not much profit, but it's a start.
     
  6. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    @alexis2112
    Let's look at it. Say you buy an egg at 80 and sell for 110.

    Sales price 110.00
    Less:
    Commission (11.00)
    Cost (80.00)

    Net profit 11.00

    11 ccs on an 80 cc investment is 13.75%.

    I presently hold over 127,000 I purchased at no higher than 69. I noticed the price edging up slowly. Eggs are being used in feed and in artisan products. Seems as if the use of eggs is greater than what is being produced.

    Slowly but surely does it. Sell 100 and profit 1,100. Sell 1,000 and profit 11,000. and on and on.

    Congratulations.
     
  7. alexis2112

    alexis2112 Forum Pro

    Wow, thank you farmer_broke! I feel so much better about my efforts! :D:inlove:
     
  8. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    lv17 and 1m cc, now i understand your play style. same as silly was trying to tell me, "this isnt a race". if i remember i reached lv17 2nd or 3rd day of play. your lv17 farm is how old?
    since i dont spend money on the game its all about grabbing harvesters from fsq. harveters have now expired for me and doing everything manually is too cumbersome. i will probably start a new farm to continue playing farmerama and slowly abandon this farm.
     
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  9. SillyGuy

    SillyGuy Forum Veteran

    @feelfree2win
    Why are you going to abandon your farm ? o_O
    That's not the point of my statement : "this isn't a race .."

    For me to do a quest is so important, BUT you have to balance the expenditure with the income. For an example :
    I've bought 10 chickens long time ago when the normal price in 200's CC. Suddenly, an event called 4 chickens for event requirements, and the price spiked up to 400 CC. I will sell 6 chickens and will earn 2160 CC. The other chickens I used for doing quest.
    Event was over. The price of chicken is back to normal again at 200's CC. I'm going to spend those 2160 CC for buying back the chicken.
    I will have 10 chickens again with having extra money (sales profit), even though I already donate 4 chickens.
    Is it clear, feel? :)
     
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  10. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    @feelfree2win
    The bunny_broke farm was started during the Easter event. I forgot to check it for a while. There is no RL funds spent on the farms. Each farm is an example of what can be done with no RL investment. And that is a challenge that I many times want to give into.

    If investing RL funds during the cuckoo event I would have bred nothing but cuckoos as there was no cost other than power feed.

    I do have fsq which have not been completed and will not be completed until I can make full use of the harvester.

    When beginning a new farm there is no learning curve other than learning that specific market. Other than that, if you know the game then all knowledge of the game goes with you to the new farm. You are free to improve on what you feel you did not do well previously.

    Leveling up during the early stages of the game is relatively easy and it is almost predictable how one will do it.

    I agree with Sillyguy, "this isn't a race." Just enjoy the game and all that comes with it. The game is what you choose to make it.

    @alexis2112

    If you understand your egg routine, then you can do the same thing now with chickens. Careful, I do not know your market. Find where you can place a lot of 100 or 200 or 300 or 2000. Buy them as cheap as possible and list them. When you get really confident you can do the same with angora. Just be aware of your specific market. Angora is more expensive than eggs and chickens to practice. There will be something else.

    Good luck.
     
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  11. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    i dont want to play the game without harvester. to go through every field, having thousands of clicks every few hrs doesnt appeal to me. the game will cost me $25-40/month. after 15 yrs of gaming i find this game to be very expensive, especially for a browser game. i dont want to knock the game down, i enjoy playing. money is not an obstacle for me playing i just think there is better value in other games for my money. if i could play the game for under $15/month(canadian dollars) like many other games i would continue. i just cant see how that is possible. not only the harvester but the bb required for stable and tree events and pf.
     
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  12. SillyGuy

    SillyGuy Forum Veteran

    Very fishy ... Fake moustache spiked up !! :eek:

    EDIT: New FSQ 'Moustache Magic' was live on. Sold out 15 fake moustaches at 12k++ CC 8)8) I have plenty in my barn .. :music:
    Thank you anyone for buying them .. :D
     
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  13. meba091

    meba091 Forum Veteran

    Yep thats right SillyGuy I just sold a 100 Moustaches and made 1.250.000 CCs [​IMG]

    Edit: Spelling error:oops:
     
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  14. SillyGuy

    SillyGuy Forum Veteran

    @meba091
    That's great !! :D:D My market is silent for now ... I'm waiting the big boy comes to my shop .. :cry::cry:
     
  15. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    :cry:Only had 3 Mustaches and just listed them for the low of 18,100 .

    An even better racket is selling the wooly-snout cuckoo at 10,400 . A free level 1 breeding animal for over 10k is absolutely ridiculous and farmers are buying them. I am breeding them without any pink jelly or pheromones and plant a hop alongside the motel for the heck of it. No need for any Baby Boom with these kind of free ccs.

    And a skip just makes me want to cry knowing some poor farmer cannot see it. :cry:

    These are the easiest ccs ever other than the pheromone investment. xD

    Only one (1) power feed left. Wish I could sell 1/2 a wooly-snout. xD:cry:xD

    Anyone need more Albino crow at 10,000 ccs? :cry::cry:xDxDxDxD

    @SillyGuy

    No big boy needed with the breeding cuckoos, only ccs. No return! xDxDxDxD
     
  16. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    Hi Broke.....These New Breeding Animals does Help me and Many Others to Make Loads of CC. But having a Reasonable amount of PF does help you get rich in CC. I have 2850 Power Feeds in my Barn. I do not do loads and loads of Breeding. As I only Breed during BBD Only.

    I always buy loads of Breeding Animals Below is normal Market it Value or Snap up any that is Rumoured to be needing in a up coming Quest. You do not need Power Feeds to Buy Breeding Animals it helps you conserve your Stocks of Power Feeds. But I Always work out if it is worth Breeding to make Even more Money to help to Complete a Quest Task that rewards me with Power Feeds.

    Six Moustache Salon Production Pens Plus I have 380 Moustaches in my Barn as I will be selling most of them for Good CC, As I can Always Buy them Back when the Price starts to Fall. These Moustaches Production Pens are the Most Productive of All Production Pens during to much less Growing time from 8 Hours to Under 5 Hours compared to other Production Pens Takes from 12, 24, 36 or 48 Hours to grow. This is Making me good Money, But the Price of Cuckoos have not gone up that much at the Moment so using some of these Cuckoos to Make Moustaches to Sell in the Markets.

    I am using the Proceeds to Help Finish of Cooking Pots Quest and Build up Stock of Cooking Pots to Help Complete the Soups and Friends Quest. Which rewards you with Many Power Feeds and Super Grows :D
     
  17. farmer_broke

    farmer_broke Commander of the Forum

    Hi Mooboy,

    It's been a while and know you are not forgotten.

    I really want to present a breeding animal analysis making use of exchange values. Just need the time to craft the chart here. I'm sure you will be critical of what it will show. For one who invests in power feed and breeds regularly I don't think it can be beat. One breeder I explained it to is having real good success. There is a single draw-back in it: To be successful one MUST collect the data and put it into a spreadsheet regularly. Twice a week is regular for someone serious about it. The breeder cannot mill enough power feed and is only efficiently turning real life money into ccs. For most, breeding is a loosing cc proposition anyway. But this is a game, and a game it is.

    How are you doing with tree fruit? Have thought of raising my buy rate from what was presented here. This farm has a billion in exchange it can throw away but will not go to TOP 1000 this year. The farm I want to send is having its share of troubles and may be able to compete in the low level 500 at best; it's too young for the upper class. It is already buying above the acquisition rate I illustrated here and I need to reset it. I'll wait until mid June or so. On the other hand, most of the tree fruit purchased this way by this farm is now in the profit region. Volume and turnover are necessary.

    When I saw you had written I went broke again and have exactly -0- ccs now. When I think of the hundreds of millions this farm has spent in the last few weeks I can always picture you shaking your head. But this is a good reminder of the old times.

    I have been reading your writings regarding refinements. I play with it and have gotten a few, but of course I do not grow anything so it is worthless for me. Your points are good though and well written. The broke method: Just throw something in and forget about it. And I do mean forget about it. With time the refinements come. I feel that working on refinements is not for the new or young farm.

    Sold about a half million pheromones. Took the proceeds and bought 1.3 million cuckoos. So in a way I'm betting on them. Really did the cuckoo and bought one cuckoo pen AND even raised a cuckoo in it. I know, insane ... a real waste. I'll buy 127 more cuckoo pens soon just for the heck of it.

    Take care of yourself Mooboy.

    broke
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2015
  18. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    Hi Broke Still selling Moustaches for good CC.... Today We got Geese to Grow and Stock Up as they are to be next New Breeding Animal within 4 to 6 Weeks This Breeding Event will start. Broke I do not think you will be able to make much money selling geese feed or selling Geese. As it has to be grown from Scratch. We have to see how it Pans out how much Money we can make from This.

    First of All I am Milling Geese Feeds made good CC selling sorghum. Then Also Buy these Geese Pens and Grow as Many Geese as I can over the next 6 weeks or so. I have to conserve my Power Feeds for this New Breeding Event but lucky can get some Power Feeds from unfinished Cuckoo Quests. I also made so good CC selling Breeding Cuckoos Too...!!!

    The Breeder does have an option to Make Good Power Feed from the Mills by having a Mill Subscription can mill just over 200 PowerFeeds in one Month. I do Part Buying of Breeding Animals and Part Breeding Animals. This Conserve Power Feeds this way...But it does make lots of CC this Way.

    I am slowing stocking up Tree Fruits Again for Top 500 or Top 1000. But I have the Luxury to have lots of island Fruits in my Barn. They are the Best Fruit Exchange Values you can get in the Markets. But The Island Fruit Trees are Expensive to Buy but worth it if i use them often.

    It good to hear you are still around buying and selling. But the Markets have change a bit to what they use to be. So I think twice what i buy and sell or for investments. WOW that is lots of Cuckoos Broke. But at the Moment they are slowly going up in Price. But we have to wait and see

    At the Moment I not bother with Cuckoo Pens since Cuckoo Prices are high and can make good CC Growing and selling Chickens at the Moment now selling as high as 300 CC Plus

    I am Focus on Geese Farming as I have very Healthy Barn of Crops, CC and other stuff too ;)
     
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  19. feelfree2win

    feelfree2win Forum Master

    how to deal with product listed not selling? it is happening far too often now. i wait patiently as i scroll through markets all day looking for good buys and also opportunities to sell. every once in awhile i see an item is spiking up and start to list some of those items. 2 hrs later im back scrolling the market again and find my listings on page 10?!?! the price had gone back down to normal trading range.
    maybe im looking at a spike in price right after someone has gone through and bought up 10 pages worth of trades?
    maybe i need to wait a few days to see if the price holds after it has gone up?
    maybe i need to find a reason why the price has spiked? if there is no reason leave it alone.
     
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  20. LDCrow

    LDCrow Forum Baron

    Feelfree this happens frequently in my market. I've learned that I can't really list something much higher than the in game scale because I usually end up getting burned over it. Exceptions being prices that are spiking due to events and even then I have to be careful or I will end up on page 10 as everyone keeps listing it lower and lower. It's a better buyers market than a sellers generally speaking.
     
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