Keeping Stock

So I'm one of those farmers who constantly panics about not having "enough" of anything, and am consequently working day in day out to stock up my barn, constantly working towards goal amounts of items.

What I am wondering is - do any of you do this? What's your "strategy" regarding how much produce you have, and why? How do you go about achieving this?

For instance, I am currently working towards a goal of 2000 of each crop. I'm currently building up my supply of Lily of the Valley, so I'm about halfway through my crops. Obviously planting longer crops overnight.

I'm also milling quite often (provided I have enough crops - never fall below that 2000 mark!) so that I have 300 of each animal feed. Once done, I'll put away the plots and feed my animals until all that feed is gone, then set out the plots again until I've stocked up enough new feed.

As for workshop products, they are very low. The exceptions being eggs (I have 1 egg tree), goat's milk (1 goat's milk tree) and cow's milk (2 cow's milk trees). This is largely because I give them away to FSQ in bulk, so am always falling low. Once I have more animals (around 300 of each once the feed is done) I'll make more products.

I never buy my stuff, only ever sell.

What about you?

 

I am much lower than you, so of course my strategy is different, but I just try to keep 100 of each, enough to fill any farm orders. I am still working on the farmer quest.

I mill some feed, but concentrate on powerfeed.

 

Hi squigglegiggle.....I am a crop Hoarder Farmer as I have over 100,000 of crops on First Seeding Page some of them are over 200,000 in crops.

There are Events, Farm Society Quests and Farm House Orders and Milling Animal Feeds, that constantly drain your barn of crops. If you make crafts this is added to the Draining of Barn Crops,,,Which prevents you building up Stocks of Crops

By the sound of thing you hardly using CAC or PJ to help build up your Stock of Crops, as I constantly use CAC, as I can either make CAC or Buy it from the Markets. It you not using PJ or CAC often then it is going to be difficult to build up your Barn Stock of Crops

It Helps lot if you spend some time in the markets to make cc and also look for bargains too, if you not do this and not use PJ or CAC as often. Then I am Afraid you are going to struggle to Build up Stocks of Crops in your Barn.

I advise not to do Farm House Orders unless you have the resources to replace the spend FHO orders stocks back into your Barn.....Fulfiling Farmer Society Quests in more rewarding than FHO to help your farm become more healthy then you will be in better place to be able to complete events for better rewards

 

I'm a hoarder also but I don't yet have as many crops as Mooboy. I have about 30,000 each on my 1st page and 10-20,000 on my 2nd and 3rd pages. With the exception of about 60,000 of the first 3 crops. I keep a lot of crops not only to be in position to sell when the time is right but to have what ever is needed for events. (It prevents me from getting stressed.)
I alternate crops and animals. Doing animals allows me to take a break from using CAC. I have enough of each animal pen to fill 2 fields an will then fill my glade with either rare animals or production pens. I try to keep my feed levels at 1000 so I can raise what ever animals I may need or want at the time.
I think the main thing is ... if you do the events to check back in the archives to see what types (and how many) of items are asked for. Last January (I believe) we had an event that asked for 1000 carrots and 800 hay in just the first few levels (on top of growing event crops). So sorry woody, 100 is too low to keep.
I do some buying and some selling. To me some things just aren't worth growing/raising/producing.

 

I am doing my best to pick my jaw up from the floor. @AnnTAngel7 and @Mooboy - it's almost incomprehensible to me the amounts you are talking about! wow!

 

When is enough of something enough? Ask myself this many times.

Is over a million corn enough? or 120,000 eggs, or 12,000 anaconda or 30,000 chickens or 30,000 peacock or 1,300,000 apples, 16,000 sheep or 40,000 bat feed and on and on and on and on and on and on and on ...

Answer: It depends.

There is no right way or wrong way to play this game. We each set our own goals for whatever the reason.

Some would say 30,000 peacock is enough. But it takes over 60,000 of a base animal to get the top level breeding animal with no skips. I can't even satisfy one serious breeder with 30,000 peacock much less 12,000 anaconda.

I thought over 16,000 donkeys was enough only to sell them all in 3 days in lots of 1000 and 2000... Not enough for me.

When one begins working with crop refinements it is surprising how quickly stocks go.

Donating to the Top 1000, I don't event miss a million Maple Sap or ....

It depends.

Is 11,000 hamster enough? Only 4500 left and I don't think so and I don't have any hamster pens.

Is over 1700 animal pens enough? I don't think so. I don't have any hamster pens.

Are 2 wolf enough? None on the market, no wolf pens, and for now...... it has to be!

A goal of 1,000,000 lettuce was enough at one time. Then it turned to 4,000,000. and now to 150,000 and on and on. and I want a million now.

We can only set goals for ourselves and base it on what each of us wants to do in the game; it is only a game.

Is 500,000 potatoes enough?????????? and on and on the same question again and again

I think just begin somewhere and work toward a goal and when it is over ....... it's over, win or loose.

And have a good time doing it.

 

Agreed farmer_broke - and don't necessarily aim for the top right away.

Once I have everything at 2,000, I will aim for 3,000 of everything - and continue to set higher goals once I reach those targets. You don't want to spend so much time on one crop or animal that everything else falls far too low.

 

I am similar to AnnTangel in my strategy on both farms. I try to build my stocks of animals and products up in between events - 1000 animals and 500 products are my current targets.

I was doing exceptionally well with the "normal" animals and had nearly reached the targets up until this event (or was it the last one!)! I could not resist making a few million CCs! Whichever event it was, I started with a little over 100,000 CC on this farm and about 1.5 million CCs on Illy. I now have about 5 million CCs on each - though I did get as high as 8 million CCs on Illy, my highest ever in memory (which is not always reliable lol!).

I try to build up my crops at the beginning or end of events to maximise use of CAC*. I have about 100k plus of the first three crops on Illy and about 10k on this farm. The target is always to get as much as possible of everything in the barn so I am ready for anything! If I need anything in between, I buy it - when I can afford it and at the moment I can! I intend to try to keep at least 5 million CC on both farms - but we shall see! Those country coins have a tendency to slip through my fingers!
Oh, well. Targets are there to be aimed for ... so back to the grindstone.

Edit: When I have CAC running, have time and, most importantly, the harvester functions, I grow the first three crops for a while to keep them stocked up.

 

I have around 2.5 million CC (less than I would like but it's all I actually need), earning my way via my 1000 CC giving cloud row, a few CC giving items in the park, FHO, and by selling the excess Baha crops that my FOCD requires me to (oddly, it doesn't for the main farm - how strange. Maybe when I reach higher numbers I will sell). I usually don't play the market, haven't in months, but decided to give it a go for the sake of it.

 

I'm very curios about refinements, I have yet to experiment with them. Any advice?

 

The refinement king would be the best to answer that one. I've basically only gotten the refinements for the crops I use the most.
And I agree what is enough! The thing I would have newer players concentrate on would be if (and only if) they want to do the events to check back into the archives and see what types and amounts of regular items are asked for and set those numbers as their first goals.

 

I think stocks of anything depend on the goals you set for yourself, and I mean also stocks of key resources (like PF, SG, Suzy's spray and turbo-mulch, tools, crafting basics and key crafting products and, of course, CCs). There's no unique answer, then, useful for everyone. It depends on each player's goals.

In my case, my main farm revolves around nFHOs -by a sidereal far, the most rewarding feature in game-. Since they can ask for the same item many times in a single day, and many times again and again for many days in a row, whatever crop stocks below 2000, along with whatever animal's below 500, whatever product's below 200, whatever fruit's below 1000, are for me critically low. Hence, to whither off stress, I try to keep at least 20/30/40K of both carrots, wheat and lettuce -I cannot forget that event asking for 120K lettuce to do 1 task-, 15K of everything below 02:00 base time, 10K of everything below 03:00, 8K from there upwards in growth times. Like squigglegiggle, once I can steadily keep over each level I generally push for the next 1K.

I achieve those minimum levels by both producing what's profitable to produce -only that, relentlessly- and heavily playing the markets at the same time, as I think you all already know. But markets are time consuming also, so I try to concentrate mainly on the extremely profitable areas/very high CCs-yielding produce, including animals' feeds (which I mill and sell based on their profitability per milling hour -and buy whatever is sold at a loss-). My specialty, though, is bred animals markets.

To have the ability of both being prepared for any event (bar from the TopX00X) and keeping the pace with nFHOs at the daily high level I set for myself (my main goals), markets must be heavily played. There's no other way without using oodles of expensive -in RL money terms- resources -something I don't do with the only exception of PF, but I don't even overdo with PF-: it's otherwise absolutely impossible to produce all what's asked for in both events, surprise permanent quests and daily nFHOs. This also includes key artisan products stocks kept at healthy levels.

Markets are the only means then, and this implies profits maximization is the best compass for what to produce, buy, sell and even buying for selling at a profit.

As regards CCs stock, well, mine's on a permanent rollercoaster ride. I usually keep something between 10-18M CCs but, if I find the right things to buy, it can get as low as 250K in 2 days, to go back to 8M two days later. Again, it depends on what you want to achieve. Rollercoasting is needed for me because I heavily play the mkts to achieve the rest of my goals.

By the way, I haven't ever tried refinements, because, to do so, I should invest too many resources I find a better use for. I don't really need any of the buffs for tools and crop specific buffs are actually not useful for my farming style: nFHOs + mkts dictate what I produce and this constantly changes. And I'm never short of events' drops, so I don't use to need any of those rose or whatever SGed CF approaches many seem to take advantage of.

Instead, as with almost everything else, mkts are the means to indirectly achieve most of what some claim they achieve through refinements: I buy whatever is cheap in time terms: for example, I never ever grow carnations, spelt or roses because you can buy as many of them by just selling the same amount of crops that take 2/3/4 times less to grow.

As for animals and products, I always buy significant amounts while they are still cheap, of everything, so that not to raise/produce them and use the space for whatever's profitable to produce. If I fail to have amassed a right-sized stock by the time they're out of the blue asked for, then I produce some then. But I never produce them while they're not profitable.

In mkts, you should now try to build up stocks of all the animals that are not still breedable -it's just a handful-, their related products, and their related feeds and ingredients of feeds. It'll pay off handsomely some time in the future.

As Romans liked to say: victory loves preparation.... LOL (if you have any doubts, see this movie, The Mechanic).

 

Time to me is important. I am usually always kind of interested in some sort of time reductions for growing crops. And I like to be more flexible on which crops I can grow within my personal schedule. If the crops that I would like to grow just takes too long to be feasable for whatever reason I can actually adjust some of the plants to my personal needs just by using some of my refinements.

I mostly concentrate on time reducing refinements. I started with refining crops first that I needed but grew an inconvenient amount of time to me. Onions for example are now a much more feasable crop for me to grow overnight. And I like making CAC's (onions for wolfsfood? I would have preferred adding more variety instead of making more people grow necessary onions).

So I have gone for my most used crops that are actually growing an inconvenient time. And now I kind of keep adding to them when I have spare crops. I usually choose crops that have quite a leeway on my market already. Sometimes I just happen to end up with 10000s of broccoli just because... I don't know... they seemed cheap?? Big numbers? And I think that I will never use all of these but the price pretty regularly spikes to at least 130 often even more.
And sometimes I am running a couple of refinement rounds just for time related refinements though. I am still in the process of figuring out how much my gnomes do and all sorts of combinations of refinements with gnomes, manure??? Research is slow, finding refinements in the first place is using up a lot of resources and time... but I am just curious, so I do it on occasion.

I could imagine that the excited buyers of broccoli might really just want to finish the quest very quickly. I wish sometimes I could check on the requirements of my finished quests.

Time to me is important. I am usually always kind of interested in some sort of time reductions for growing crops. I like the flexibility of being able to adjust the growing time of my crops to my schedule instead of being limited by my schedule as to what I can grow. I just wish there would be no cooldown time. I pay the CC's to delete the buff but it is about flexibility after all... I have to plan all of this 24 hours in advance??? And yes. If I did all that research and now I got the EP enhancer which I didn't even want in the first place... but well it's nice to have after all... at least I possibly could level up just this tiny little bit faster... ah no, I can't use it. Wasted my resources on that refinement, need BB's to actually be able to take advantage of this offer.

And quite a lot of people don't seem to bother about it too much anyhow right now in their games. If at least the cooldown time could just disappear, I might be actually happy to follow up on some of my thoughts about refinements.

I am rather slow at adding to my spreadsheet and everything is rather messy. Especially because some buffs take longer to kick in than others. I generally do it by trial and error. And it's on the laptop.

 

I absolutely do not understand refinements in the slightest. Don't get how they work, don't get what they do, don't understand the implications. I've read the FAQ and other players' posts, but I just can't wrap my head around them - so I don't use them.

EDIT: Just trying my first one now, and I think I made a very poor decision.

 

At the moment I've only got about 1000 of each crop, but want to up that. I currently have 300 of each animal and am busy stocking up on those (although the anacondas keep decimating my rabbits and chickens ).

 

I would recommend not bothering about them until you get at least some long time crops. I don,t know which level you are? They are expensive to find and not worth it at an early stage. Other things about refinements would have to be changed first before they could possibly? become a positive asset.

 

I'm doing refinements on barley (17+ hour growing time, I'm a level 79 player). I just should have taken more time to research the effects of each, and made a more conscientious decision about how many pots to use. Should have gone for 2, not 3, and would have been better doing a different crop where refinements actually matter. Still, a good learning opportunity.

 

It takes a while to understand the benefits of Refinements....I guess i am a Refinement King...knowing and understand refinements how to get the best refinements from each crop.

My Advise is to work on Lower Level Refinements that has growing time of 1h 30mins to 5 Hours...Quiet a few of them have far more effective refinements than high longer time crops such as barley. The Longest time crops requires more quantity of crops for refinements than the lesser time crops ok

I dont bother with gnomes as you need a huge stock of oyster mushrooms to make gnomes, plus they are expensive to buy in the markets....plus they are only effective on certain type pf crop such as vegetable, grain crop etc plus they have smaller effective growing time compared to refinements reduced time crops.

Gnomes are very expensive to make in terms of Reduce growing time effectiveness of certain gnomes, plus gnomes only works on the field it is placed in....such as Main Field or Glade or Island each gnomes take up a 2x2 Field Space not effective when using CAC as a buff, Sorry Jennifersiegal it just not pratical concept to use that why it is worse Artisan Craft out of all of them. I am hoarding my Mandrakes until they bring out better receipes using mandrakes...

Aluntino....Yes you can make lots of CC milling and selling animal feeds, I do make some animal feeds but not lot and i mill Power Feeds most of the time....You can sell animal feeds to make profit cc but for me it is time consuming I make more cc selling crops and breeding animals that why i make Power Feeds for Breeding plus you cannot buy Power Feeds with cc.

if you notice some animal feeds cost more to buy in the markets than it is to buy animals, i buy lots of animals from the markets as often see lots of bargains as it not cost effective to grow animals compared to growing crops, with crops you can reduce the growing time by Water,Manure, Runes,Supergrow and refinements plus no requirement of animal feeds, that you have to mill or buy in the markets.

This is the Main Reason why i am a crop Hoarding Farmer, using CAC whenever I can, It only worth growing rare animals where is has a good cc selliing market price or you happens to have an orange or pink Animal Pen or they are needed to fill a farm society quest or Event quest...

 

Good for you, Ajjg, that you can secure for yourself a better result by milling PF and then breeding.

Milling just for PF is the right choice for those not having any other way to get it.

However, for anyone who does, at almost any level, it's not necessarily the most profitable choice. By right choosing what to mill and sell, anyone can very easily secure for her/himself a feed production worth at least 40K and up CCs -pure profit, net of any costs, including the 10% sales tax- in the 20 hs the mill produces enough PF for just 1 breeding hut.

Additionally, I nowhere implied to mill every single feed or that every animal should be raised, which seems to be what you chose to understand from what I wrote. On the contrary, same method allows to identify what is sold at below its cost -hence, at a loss- and must be bought instead of milled; by the same token, since milling time is limited, in fact many feeds are better bought than milled just because, though profitable, they're way less profitable than others.

And of course there are pretty evident cases for which the animals cost less than the feeds (I mentioned this many times before) and that means an opportunity. But that is no necessary indication that it's not convenient to mill their feed for sale. In fact, as it's been almost permanently the case for the last 6/9 months at least, spiders are cheaper than their feed and their feed is always one of the 2 or 3 most profitable to mill for sale in market. Consequently, I never raise a spider -I always buy them- but I do mill and sell 4/10 spider feeds per day at a huge net profit. No contradiction.

Finally, water, manure, SG, refinements, buffs, all of them, do have a cost.

Edited to polish grammar.

 

For increasing my crop stock (usually short and medium term plants), after finishing any ongoing event and when my CAC (+ pinkie pie) buffer is active, I usually convert all my fields to 1 x 1 and plant whatever crop I want to. The harvest would be in thousands. This is useful very much for Bhamarama crops. Also many of us would have our harvest active at the time of events. Saves money, time and energy.

For long term plants, if you are aware that there is going to an event in next few days with drop items, you convert your fields to comfort field. Plant and water the crops so that the crops can harvested as soon as the event starts. By this way you get thrice the yeild and also you drop items will be more as the Xp is 3 times that of the crop Xp.

This is what I usually do. May be most of you are aware of this. But still I thought I might share this in case someone might not be aware of.