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  1. elRe

    elRe Forum Inhabitant

    « Quest Strategies and Market Recognition »;
    « General Quest Strategies and Several Market Recognition ».
    To talk about quests I previously open other discussions before they are locked due to inactivity and the difficulty to develop a discussion without the moderated Multi Reply.
    The first discussion was published in the « Game Strategy Discussion » section at « Users + Game » board on the english language Farmerama Bigpoint forum and is based upon the necessity to remember event quest stories as well as develop permanent quest story intelligence; the second discussion introduce the possibility to talk about continuity and was published in the « Game Related Chit Chat » section at « Users‘ Corner » board on the above named forum.
    Now, I propose to never give up, because quest activity on Farmerama is a way to produce money: we all know that the Market needs money to grow fortune. This is why I create the discussion « Quest & Market » in the « Gabfest » section at « Users‘ Corner » board.
    Permanent Quest, discussion: « www.bigpoint.com/farmerama/board/index.php?threads/permanent-quest-discussion.33913 »;
    Quest Story: analyse and interpretation: « www.bigpoint.com/farmerama/board/index.php?threads/quest-story-analyse-and-interpretation.34409 ».

    Today, this forum announces two new permanent quests on Farmerama: « The Search » [gives 1463000 Market Value units (MV)] and
    « Panda's Project » (gives 2680000 MV)
    - or vi-ce ver-sa (total: 4143000 MV).

    The Ear Warmer Factory [​IMG] and
    the Dragonfly Pond [​IMG] are announced to be introduced on Farmerama too, less than 24 hours remain.

    Requirements to solve both quests:

    9000 Peanuts
    6500 Zebra Plants
    6500 Bamboo
    6500 Proteas
    6000 Coffee beans
    6000 Yams
    6000 Cumins
    6000 Vanilla

    600 Pitomba fruits
    600 Sugar-apples
    600 Goji berries
    600 Plumeria flowers

    205 Koalas
    205 Dragonflies
    185 Gazelles
    185 Rhinoes
    185 Dolphins
    185 Pandas
    120 Seals

    225 Parrot Feathers
    115 Fangbrushes
    115 Flying carpets
    115 Bikinis
    70 Ear Warmers

    Question:
    How many Market Value units are needed to buy all quest requirements at the Market on Farmerama?

    To participate in this discussion as an active contributor, I suggest to use the active list:
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    We can begin this discussion with minimum one passive contributor and I publish my active contribution as a Market ‘AO.03.05,14’ actor as soon as possible (if the additional contributor is an active one and acts on the same market than « elRe1 », I can develop another username with a different Market Reference on Farmerama).

    [​IMG]Happy summer![​IMG]
     
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  2. meba_the_mouse

    meba_the_mouse Forum Apprentice

    Gazillions!
     
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  3. elRe

    elRe Forum Inhabitant

    To calculate the Universal Global Index (UGI), the total Barn Value makes reference; to calculate the Partial Score (PS), the total Highest Price is considered.

    Following Table shows
    the total Investment needed to buy all quest requirements at Market « AO.03.05,14 ».
    produce.barnValuehighestPricequantityinvestment
    vanilla.111299,6060007797600
    cumin.13,8337,4460002024640
    bamboo.22,51310,5465008518510
    peanuts.26,51049,9890009449820
    yams.27,51677,71600010066260
    coffee.44996,9460005981640
    zebraPlant.46,1551,1465003582410
    protea.57unlockedLater.99,756500648375*
    plumeriaFlower.60unlockedLater.685206,69600411124014**
    sugarApple.60unlockedLater.685206,69600411124014**
    pitombaFruit.4446989,416004193646
    gojiBerry.4445181,936003109158
    dragonFly.25unlockedSoon.1069485,06205219244437,30***
    panda.70049526,711859162441,35
    koala.115753277,6120510921910,05
    dolphin.290690303,2418516706099,40
    rhino.298688437,2118516360883,85
    gazelle.3332117846,8418521801665,40
    seal.448755038,721206604646,40
    earWarmer.200buildedSoon.523135,117036619457,70****
    parrotFeather.186433940,722257636662
    bikini.220057641,531156628775,95
    flyingCarpet.285077991,461158969017,90
    fangbrush.4980171127,8311519679700,45
    UGI.28943,40PS.3777659,86-total.1257955784,75
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ first edit, 2019.188.0220 (Jul 6, 2019 at 2:20 AM_UTC+14)
    produce.barnValue highestPricequantityinvestment
    VAN.11---
    CUM.13,8425,0960002550540
    BAM.22,5---
    PEN.26,5---
    YAM.27,5---
    COF.44---
    ZEB.46,1568,0565003692325
    PRO.57**6500dataComingLater (dCL)
    plumeriaFlower.***600dataComingSoon (dCS)
    sugarApple.***600dCS
    PIO.444---
    GOJ.444---
    DRF.987517626,882053613510,40
    PAD.700---
    KOA.115758526,4220511997916,10
    DOL.2906---
    RHI.2986---
    GAZ.3332---
    SEL.4487---
    EAW.26904707,5070329525
    PAF.186441998,392259449637,75
    BIK.2200---
    FLC.2850---
    FAB.4980259216,9511529809949,25
    dCSdCL-dCL
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ second edit, 2019.189.0236 (Jul 7, 2019 at 2:36 AM_UTC+14)
    produce.barnValue highestPricequantityinvestment
    ----
    CUM.13,8619,2760003715620
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ZEB.46,1734,2365004772495
    PRO.57**6500***
    plumeriaFlower.***600***
    sugarApple.***600***
    ----
    ----
    DRF.987519072,252053909811,25
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    EAW.26904801,6570336115,50
    ----
    ----
    ----
    FAB.4980328749,7811537806224,70
    ----
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ third edit, 2019.189.0800 (Jul 7, 2019 at 8:00 AM_UTC+14)
    produce.barnValue highestPricequantityinvestment
    ----
    CUM.13,8683,4660004100760
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ZEB.46,1810,6365005269095
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    ----
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ fourth edit, 2019.189.0924 (Jul 7, 2019 at 9:24 AM_UTC+14)

    Now, 55 hours later after the above named quests be added on Farmerama, only the ‘CUM.13,8’ price continues to grow on Market « AO.03.05,14 ». This means, that as soon as all prices stop to grow, we know « Gazillions! » maximum.
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ fifth edit, 2019.202.0711 (Jul 20, 2019 at 7:11 AM_UTC+14)
    produce.BV MVquantityinvestment
    VAN.111299,6060007797600
    CUM.13,81013,5860006081480
    BAM.22,51579,08 650010264020
    PEN.26,51049,9890009449820
    YAM.27,51677,71600010066260
    COF.44996,9460005981640
    ZEB.46,11645,60650010696400
    PRO.57unlockedLater.99,756500648375*
    plumeriaFlower.60unlockedLater.685206,69600411124014**
    sugarApple.60unlockedLater.685206,69600411124014**
    PIO.4446989,416004193646
    GOJ.4445181,936003109158
    PAD.70049526,711859162441,35
    KOA.115758526,4220511997916,10
    DOL.290690303,2418516706099,40
    RHI.298688437,2118516360883,85
    GAZ.3332117846,8418521801665,40
    SEL.448755038,721206604646,40
    DRF.987566088,8220513819173
    PAF.186447136,3622510605681
    BIK.220057641,531156628775,95
    EAW.26905625,9070393813
    FLC.285077991,461158969017,90
    FAB.4980328749,7811537806224,70
    UGI.41283,40PS.2434859,95-total.1051392765,05
    * The ‘Data Charts’ numbers published on the forum are used to calculate the Investment.

    ** The Farmerama Actual Quackery (FAQ) is not yet updated. To talk about the Plumeria Flower and the Sugar Apple investment, the lowest Barn Value (Apple or Banana with 60 BV) is used to calculate the UGI; to calculate the PS, the highest Market Value reference (Elm Fruit with 685206,69 MV) is used.
    To know, how many « Gazillions! » exactly are, I realize the above developped Market Consideration and find the number « 1051392765,05 ». This means, that 1051392765,05 Market Value units are actually needed to buy all above named quest requirements at Market Refence « AO.03.05,14 » on Farmerama.
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    Now, since one week, the Farmerama user can produce additional 995100 Market Value units thanks to the « Raccoons in Trouble » Permanent Farmer's Society Quest, introduced the same day as the [​IMG] Anthill begins to exist on Farmerama.

    To continue this discussion, we probably need more than one passive contributor.
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  4. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    Do you think permanent quests are worth doing?
     
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  5. Jazac

    Jazac Forum Veteran

    IMO some are not worth doing. If you are talking about the value(mainly ev value.. but you can add or use cost value too if you wish) of said products verses rewards.

    But I did do some and will continue to do ones I can... just so they are done and out of the way..I don't have much stock of many things.. But if I can grow or afford said products I am gonna get rid of a quest... PERIOD.. One day (in about 6 plus years lol ) I will hope to be caught up...


    EDIT: how about the quests we got when the game first came out.. I still have some.. new players if I am correct will also get them... Now the cost alone (market value) on said products makes them not worth doing...

    EDIT 2: Now yes prices went up... so did making coins got easier. But as I said IMO the First FSQ's we got when the game came out.. Makes them not worth doing. Mainly if you was to buy said products. I just thought I would add this so I don't get replies about how easy coins are to get...lol I was just speaking my thoughts on such quests...

    Thank you for them posts @elRe It helped me remember to get the earmuffs factories and start using them... ;)
     
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  6. elRe

    elRe Forum Inhabitant

    I do not know where go System gains.*

    But quests are an additional way to get Market Value units (MV) and grow Common Fortune on Farmerama.

    Actually, I produce 28135 MV daily with Giver Items and Magic Stalk Rows: not enough to spend my 10 % Market Fees. This means, that I have to reduce my offers on Farmers’ Market, because inflation is possible if we inject financial funds.

    Example:
    Today, the Ant Feed price is 4582,01. With 28135, I can offer 61 Ant Feeds without making loss to Market Reference « AO.03.05,14 » (because the System takes 27950,25 as market fees).

    Price per unit: 4582,01;
    number of goods: 61;
    total price: 279502,46;
    market fees: 27950,25;

    Market Value produce: 28135.

    28135-27950,25=184,75

    Market Value growth: 184,75.

    I have 184,75 to buy a Cress offer and grow Common Fortune on Farmers’ Market (if I take the daily System generated limited seed shop selection, the total of Market Value units in use on Farmers’ Market be less).
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    * Perhaps, one day, we can participate the Jackpot Duo Campaign (JDC): There are as much JDC as Market Places on Farmerama. Each year, one Farmerama user can win one part of the JDC. Each year, another Farmerama user can win the other part of the JDC. The first JDC part is the total of pasts 10 % Market Fees; the second JDC part is the total of pasts Seed Shop gains. This means, that two Farmerama user on the same Market Place get enough Market Value units to buy as much as possible. This means, that more quests be realized, more funds be produced to grow Common Fortune. The Market Place with the highest potential is the winner.

    ______________________________________________________________________________ first edit, 2019.207.0634 (Jul 25, 2019 at 6:34 AM_UTC+14)

    Here comes the archived table associated to the newest Permanent Farmer's Society Quest:
    quantityproduce.marketValuesearchCode
    975tortoise.314672,66LU
    390ant.*CA
    280pony.207029,46iD
    280wolf.80733,19RT
    280weasel.36110,99Ci
    210chinchilla.827745,48LL
    210falcon.127353,94DO
    210guineaPig.377367,79Gi
    210chamois.43163,79UA
    210pheasant.121705,11Sü
    140robin.229731,65LG
    140bison.125293,35ZO
    140raccoon.45530,12RA
    140salamander.257238,47ME
    ______________________________________________________________________________ second edit, 2019.208.0110 (Jul 26, 2019 at 1:10 AM_UTC+14)

    Here comes the update.
    produce.marketValueanimalSearchCode.marketValue
    tortoiseFood.34919,17LU.dCS
    antFeed.5160,09CA.dCS
    ponyFeed.35537,53iD.dCS
    wolfFeed.21945,14​
    RT.dCS​
    weaselFeed.33228,68Ci.dCS
    chinchillaFeed.14239,52LL.dCS
    falconFeed.79356,25DO.dCS
    guineaPigFeed.24724,61Gi.dCS
    chamoisFeed.74767,18UA.dCS
    pheasantFeed.34747,56Sü.dCS
    robinFeed.71054,11LG.dCS
    bisonFeed.21738,36ZO.dCS
    raccoonFeed.31581,01RA.58733,36
    salamanderFeed.26154,36ME.dCS
    ______________________________________________________________________________ third edit, 2019.208.0215 (Jul 26, 2019 at 2:15 AM_UTC+14)
    I start a listing of rare content available in some quests (take a look in the first discussion or check the « ESSENTIALS » spoiler):
    ______________________________________________________________________________ fourth and last edit, 2019.229.0649 (Aug 16, 2019 at 6:49 AM_UTC+14)

    Here comes the Final Score:
    barnValue.article.marketValue
    x.ant.X
    2594.chinchilla.827745,48​
    1956.pony.207029,46
    973.robin.229731,65
    739.falcon.127353,94
    667.guineaPig.377367,79
    510.chamois.44380,53
    502.wolf.113612,36
    500.raccoon.96031,22
    490.bison.125293,35
    440.salamander.257238,47
    299.pheasant.121705,11
    238.tortoise.314672,66
    168.weasel.36110,99​
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    Now, two new permanent quests soon join the Farmer's Society on Farmerama:

    « Dr Adnap's Travels » (gives 905200 Market Value units) and
    « Happy Tree Day » (gives 200300 Market Value units).
    required.article.barnValue.marketValue
    600.judasBlossom.280.30799,99​
    360.wollemiaSeed.x.X
    300.cottonWoodSeed.680.116203,85
    300.sweetChestnut.85.18464,63
    180.prehistoricFirCone.615.144076,59
    150.redAnjouPear.75.1613,13
    85.tortoise.238.314672,66
    80.ant.x.X
    45.pony.1956.207029,46
    45.bison.490.125293,35
    40.guineaPig.667.377367,79
    35.chinchilla.2594.827745,48​
    required.article.barnValue.marketValue
    600.desertRoseBlossom.315.127516,71
    360.treeFernBlossom.x.X
    300.cottonWoodSeed.680.116203,85
    300.pitangaFruit.185.38538,18
    180.sigillariaFruit.615.32659,78
    150.ahuehueteCone.275.89039,67
    85.axolotl.1803.82703,13
    80.mantaRay.10251.1069485,06
    45.zebra.4201.195344,14
    45.octopus.2625.109691,38
    45.redPanda.865.22034,97​
    35.anteatar.800.31386,36​
    To continue this discussion, we probably need more than three passive contributors.
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    ______________________________________________________________________________ unbelievable and unalienable edit, 2019.230.2304 (Aug 17, 2019 at 11:04 PM_UTC+14)
    The english language Farmerama Bigpoint forum infomation and Farmerama requirements are different:

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    1.2-
    1.3-
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    3.215 Guinea Pigs on Farmerama istead of 10 Guinea Pigs on the forum
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    4.2-
    4.3-
    This means, that I update the « Happy Tree Day » Market Value table as follows:
    required.article.barnValue.marketValue​
    600.judasBlossom.280.30799,99
    360.wollemiaSeed.x.X
    300.cottonWoodSeed.680.949391,10
    300.sweetChestnut.85.18464,63
    180.prehistoricFirCone.615.144076,59
    150.redAnjouPear.75.1674,28
    85.tortoise.238.314672,66
    80.ant.x.X
    45.pony.1956.207029,46
    45.bison.490.133628,25
    45.guineaPig.667.377367,79
    35.chinchilla.2594.827745,48
     
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2019
    elRe, Jul 24, 2019
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