Which Trade is best to start?

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  1. woody

    woody Commander of the Forum

    Actually, for me, it will be my second trade. I already determined that my choice was probably the worst.. the Florist.

    Anyway, if and when I get a second option, what would the best choice and why?
     
  2. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    And which is the first one, woody?

    Anyone's first option should be Confectionery.

    Second, Bakery.

    Third, Spa -it's key for speeding up Baha's leveling up-.

    Fourth, Floristry.

    Fifth, not even worth the worry about keeping it closed: the little good the Alchemistry provided via gnomes, was completely wiped out by the existence of Pinkie Pie.
     
  3. Banjoman

    Banjoman Forum Ambassador

    Confectionery... PJ and CAC... needless to say two of the most useful Buffs known to us

    Then Florist...
    Save your stars for Spa !
     
  4. BlackCaviar

    BlackCaviar Forum Overlooker

    I agree, Confectionary first unless you are not planning to spend BBs to buy the PJ and CAC recipes (CAC is a level 4 recipe and takes time to get there). If you don't mind a bit of work, the best recipes for the florist shop can be earned in Jack's shop during MM. Crypt Vase is a level 2 recipe and Terror Bouquet is a level 3 recipe. Once you are a level 70 farmer, use those stars for the Spa as Banjoman says.

    Also, you should participate in Renzo's Fair where you can eventually earn the right to open a level 40 farmer trade if you haven't already opened all three.
     
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  5. puppiesnponies

    puppiesnponies Living Forum Legend

    I opened Confectionery first for the PJ and CAC. They are essential for events with high crop requirements and make FSQ and FHO easier/faster. I think the florist may be easier to level to 3 than the bakery and then once the 2nd is at level 3, you automatically get the third craft open. However, I went for the bakery as my 2nd shop as it has products on each level that really benefit my farm. You can as others suggest open the 2nd with Renzo tickents. However, if you spend RM on the game, the 2nd shop is not very expensive and was worth the investment. Good luck!
     
  6. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    In my opinion, with Pinkie Pies as cheap as they are in market -plus the fact that many people don't even use all the ones they produce, the very reason why it's so cheap as compared to the value it provides-, leveling up in Bakery is really easy.

    So, it's indeed a matter of priorities: I'd suggest to go for Floristry only if the player cares too much about MM, for whatever reason -Terror Bouquet, lvl3, and Spring Wreath, lvl5, are the only products that make any difference for me in Floristry-. But, if not, and if EPs and B-EPs are more important, Bakery is the one to go for first. (Always after Confectionery; and I go on thinking Spa should be the next option, because of lvl1's Red Punch).
     
  7. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    My first and only trade is confectionery. (I am thinking of starting a new one...)
    I chose this trade when I was about on level 45-50. It was very long time ago when trades first appeared. In that time I didn't know anything about the use of CAC. But I chose to be a confectioner because I didn't had eggs for baker recipes.
    Before some weeks ago I leveled up to level 4 and I found out that I had the CAC recipe!!!( You can't imagine how I reacted when I saw it... I had no longer to buy CAC which one costs 60.000 cc and I could I can sell it)
     
  8. dnin21cent

    dnin21cent Forum Baron

    Arielh, it's a veryl long time ago when artisan village come out.
    You got the CAC receipt because you complete a event that time.CAC & ZAB is prize of that event(I forget the name as it's really long before). I much regret that I chose bakey as my first trade. It take me much CC for buying the CAC when BP change rule, no longer let us to eat PJ to extend CAC.
    But when I finaly pay some money to open Confectionery. I try my very best to upgrade to LV 3, then make traditional Chutney whenever I remember. I know I will need alot of them when I go to LV4, There never had enough Traditional Chutney for CAC. I make 100 when I got to LV4, however, less than 3 month, I used up & need to make more.xD
     
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  9. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    I searched on google about that event, maybe is that it?
    [​IMG]
    P.S. This in to my farm
    I forget to make traditional chutney too and when I go to make CAC I see that I haven't traditional chutneys..xD
     
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  10. Bhodho

    Bhodho Count Count

    That was the best event BP has ever thrown at us. Luckily, The President was around to get those Recipes...

    :):):)
     
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  11. Michael1877

    Michael1877 Old Hand

    Hi woody,
    I'd go first with Confectionary, then Bakery, Florist......the last two to be honest I don't really care about the order....But depending on the Level you open up the first one it is always more gratifying if you can use it because you have the crops unlocked/available.....It's pretty annoying to be happy to unlock something and then to find out that you still got a bunch of levelling up on the Farm to do to continue.
     
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  12. Arielh

    Arielh Living Forum Legend

    It was one of the best events, I believe before the events were better maybe I believe this because events were not so often and when there was one, we were so excited....
     
  13. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    Hi Farmers Here is New Method to Opening Crafts Including Newbies too....

    First Open The Confectionary Craft First as it helps to have Pumpkin Jam and CAC to build up stocks of Crops and Help Complete Events Quest of Crops and Help you Complete Timed Farmer Society Quests or Timed Event Quests using PJ or CAC.

    If and When you can Using Renzo Fair as it Now a lot easier to unlock the Second Craft of Florist. Yes Unlock the Florist as The Secpnd Craft to unlock. The Reason Why is that you can buy as Many Wedding Products from the Markets as many as you can afford which really helps you get to Level 3 Florist in No Time.

    The Bonus of Getting to Level 3 Florist is that you can unlock The Baker Craft for Free As you need Confectionary and Florist Both at Level 3.

    But if you Unlock Baker Craft Before Florist it is a lot harder to level up the baker, as you would need lots of Salt to do this but you can get to level 3 Florist without the need to use any Wires Well Almost !!!

    The Spa Manager is the 4th Craft worth opening using Stars.....It Hardly worth Opening the Alchemist as this is least Effective Craft for this Game

    We Need Couple of Events which gives us new Reciepes to Make by Completing Events. The Last Three Receipes Had be unlocked by Completing 3 Bahamarmama Society Quests which needs lots of GB to unlock these.
     
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  14. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    Ajjg,

    Again: Pinkie Pies are very cheap in market and let you level up in Bakery in almost no time, at a fraction of the cost of what you are suggesting for the Floristry (no need of any ingredients or salt, hence). So, I stand by my suggestion of Bakery as a first option immediately after Confectionery. It's way more rewarding and strategically important in game than Floristry. Best of worlds anyone can now level up there so cheaply and quickly.

    Pinkie Pie changed the game in many ways. And this is one of them. It made the Floristry products that give you artisan points pale to end up fading out in comparison with what you can achieve (and at what speed) by eating PPs in Bakery to quickly level up.

    The only real reason that now any player may have to choose Floristry over Bakery is just that they may give utter importance to MMs, for whatever cause. Nothing else.
     
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  15. Bhodho

    Bhodho Count Count

    These are not free recipes, so technically and financially, this is not true at the moment...

    :(:(:(
     
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  16. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Here are some numbers: You need 10500 trade points to reach level 3 in either bakery or floristry.

    I checked the prices of the wedding products in my marked. The cheapest was option seemed to be 4000cc for Wedding flower pot, which gives 100 trade points. Leveling up to level 3 this way therefore costs 420000 cc.

    Pinkie pie pie gives 270 trade points when you use it to improve your skills in the bakery. You therefore need 39 PPP, which can be eaten over 8 days. The price of PPP varies quite a bit. Some time ago I could buy it for under 7000, but lately it has been between 8000 an 12000. As long as you buy the PPP for less than 10700, the total cost of leveling will be less than the 420000 for the floristry.


    Edit: You can also use white innocence to level in the floristry. You need 58 WI to reach level 3, at 5000cc each, that is 290000cc in total. It will take 12 days. This is quite close to the cost of leveling in the bakery. But since the bakery is more useful, I would definitely choose the bakery second.

    Eating 5 white innocence a day is all I ever do in the floristry. I am one third of the way through level four. Should reach level five in about four months 8)
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2014
  17. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    Exactly, Mir.

    When I struggled to turn 5 in Floristry, I bought loads of those wedding products.

    My price ceilings were: boutonniere, 1900; flower pot, 5000; bouquet, 10000. Current typical prices in my mkt for these 3 are now: 1,9/2K; 7/8/9K; 15+K, respectively. The only advantage would be that, if you happen to have those 420K CCs you mention -for your mkt- and decide to invest them in leveling up in Floristry by buying those wedding products, then you can level up immediately, in 5 minutes if you will, with no limits.

    I never included the arrangement because it never got to a convenient CCs/artisan points ratio (I think it happened only once, with 2/3 units). My aim to get 5 in Floristry was Spring Wreath because it's so rewarding and used to be very profitable to make. By when I got there, however, so many more got there in more or less unison with me that you could buy SprWr below the cost of making it.... (and now, after BP's giveaway via the bonuscode, I'm buying them in bucketloads at even half the cost of making them; same that's happening with ZAB, at even 40% below the cost of making it).

    PPs in my market almost never exceed 7/8K CCs. So, if a player is in my mkt, those 39 PPs would cost her/him just 290+K CCs instead of 420. If s/he decided to opt for the Floristry and used the same wedding flower pot you used for your calculations, it would cost her/him 700K CCs... or 500K CCs if s/he used boutonnieres or even more than 700K if s/he used bouquets. Another way of seeing it is calculating what price the wedding products should have to match the amazing performance you can have with PPs: 1,2K for boutonnieres, 2,8K for flower pots or 5/5,5K for bouquets. I've never seen such prices for them.

    So, a player with same market as mine should have no doubts: for less than 300K CCs s/he can level up in Bakery in 8 days as compared to a minimum of 500K CCs to immediately level up in Floristry....... (with the 200K CCs s/he saved s/he might even choose to buy 100 boutonnieres just to be ready to swoop 40% of level1 in Floristry when s/he may open it....)
     
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  18. Mooboy

    Mooboy Commander of the Forum

    Hi Mir,

    I Forgot about Pinkie Pie as they give you 270 Baker Points to Level up the Baker They are about 7 to 8K here on my Market each, But you can only Limited to Eat 5 of Them Each Day.

    But with Florist Craft you can Eat 5 White Innocence Per Day Which are about half the cost of Pinkie Pie Pie in my Market, Plus you can Eat as Many Wedding Crafts as you like there is no limit or Cap on The Florist Craft Leveling Method. But only Limited to 5 Pinkie Pie Pie per Day.

    I Agree with you Mir that Baker is better Craft to Open than Florist, that is have more useful receipes to use for Crafting. I have got to Level 5 Florist Ages Ago buy Eating Wedding Products cos back then we did not have an White Innocent Giver Back then as White Innocent was expensive to buy but is they are very cheap to buy now.

    The Revamped Renzo Fair it Great to unlock Baker or Florist to Farmer Preference then get it to Level 3 to unlock the Third Craft for Free.

    Bhodho I Know Pumpkin Jam and CAC Recipes are not Free have to Buy them with BB But it is not entirely True for those who completed the Hoedown of 2012 I think as Arielh Has Kindly pointed out you get the Pumpkin Jam and CAC for Free as I did Back Then That was very tough Event.;)
     
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  19. -Mir85-

    -Mir85- Living Forum Legend

    Yes, Mooboy, the better rewards in Renzo definitely makes it much easier to unlock another craft there! A great alternative for those who don't spend any real money on the game :)
     
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  20. Aluntino

    Aluntino Board Analyst

    Ajjg,

    You're right about White Innocence, which is also half the price of PP's in my mkt, as in yours.

    However, the point is what trade is more important: Bakery or Floristry?

    I think there can be no doubts Bakery is the answer, if the player cares more for EPs/B-EPs than s/he does for MM.
     
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